GiGi

Its her husband so can't say it rape, and she prolly don't hate it(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

That's not true, actually. It can still be considered rape between a husband and wife. Specifically, it's called marital rape. I have mixed feelings on this scene. I've dated guys that said they'd like to wake up like that. However, I know I said if it ever happened to me, he'd be kicked in the balls, lol. The reason I wouldn't like it is b/c my consent would not be given. That's just my opinion though. I think it's about preference, but she was alarmed when she first woke up. It wasn't a happy feeling. So, I can't say it's ok since she reacted that way.

This isn't the first time Hugh has done this and normally she wakes up when he starts touching her. So there is implied consent? Also, (in the novel) she actually wakes up when he went down there but she was more confused that he's already back than repulsed with what's happening.

Yea I read the novel and I agree with you in the novel they are always having sex and she always lets him do it and she likes it. I think it just wasnt portrayed that way in the webtoon version.

Where did you hit your head? Are you okay?

this whole out of context “must always give explicit consent” thing is getting out of hand. stay single.

1. Marriage is not equivalent to consent. Consent can be given and taken away at any time.
2. There is no such thing as implied consent. The entire concept was coined to invalidate assault victims and give leeway to predators.
3. There is no way an unconscious person can give consent unless they had a specific and detailed conversation discussing this before.
4. Consent is not a one and done thing. It does need to be renewed and checked.
5. Being ok with something does not mean it's not wrong. Not saying no does not mean yes. And just becausehe did it before does not mean it is right.

I'm not going to argue with you weirdos about a woman's right to consent. Fictional story or not. Go look up the law and educate yourself because it is people like you who allow these narratives that are pushed in fictional realms to exist and still be perpetuated in the real world. And no amount of cutesy talk and kawaii emojis makes up for that.

I read the novel, and it looked like it was portrayed as their relationship dynamic, but I don't like how it was done in the webtoon... having sex with an unconscious woman isn't justified. I'm glad I've found a rational person here :(

Thank you. This is exactly what I was talking about with marital rape being a thing. You explained it perfectly.

Im not sure if this comment was made towards me but I completely understand what marital rape is and what rape is in general. In my comment I stated this is how their relationship is and they are both okay and happy with it. In the novel she was aware of what was going on the whole time and she let Hugh do it and afterwards they had sex like usual. I suggest reading the novel to get a better idea of the scene.

Lmao use your head. Where tf is rape there? Go out and touch some grass. For real, this is getting way out of hand

Agree!! Some people are really ugh

If this is what you guys call marital rape than you don't know what kind of horror actually marital rape is
Grow up learn some more or stay single and believe what you believe.
I don't mean to hurt anyone with comment if you still ger hurt then just ignore me lol

For rape to be rape, it doesn't need to be gruesome or violent. Having sex with an unconscious woman is rape. It doesn't matter if she's okay with it unless she has agreed to it beforehand. People like you are the problem. Grow up.

Honestly there is a thing called not wanting it, disliking, feeling uncomfortable, feeling forced etc. And she was completely fine with it and feeling it too.. Dude I don't wanna drag this pointless conversation since I know it won't work on some people anyway but u need to grow up and learn what actually marital rape is and so many woman are suffering from it in this world. Being a married woman for 8 years and a mother of a beautiful daughter too I don't think I need to learn about consent now and also my husband often does it at night when I am sleeping and it feels so amazing better than when I am awake. Well whatever
Stay safe and learn more about rape and marital life

Feeling fine with something doesn't mean consent was present. The absence of consent in sexual intercourse is rape. And it's sad to know if a woman in real life came forward in a case like this, none of you idiots would advocate for her.
I'm not saying she disliked it. I'm not saying that you cannot enjoy the story because of this. I'm not saying that you cannot separate fiction from reality, because I can and I understand that this is fictional and within this plot, there may not be anything wrong here.
What I am saying is that consent was not present and sex without consent is? Rape.
And the fact that you lack the critical thinking skills needed to discern that and move on shows that you will have the same ignorance in real life spaces where these issues are more than art on a page. Do better.

That's a personal preference that you can't force on other ppl. Just because it's something you like doesn't mean others would. I'm talking about outside of the scope of the story here. I've been in relationships where they thought it was ok, but I personally didn't like it. Meaning, if it had been done to me during that time, it would have been without my consent. That's why I said it was personal preference. I'm not going to shame ppl that are into it, but I don't feel it necessary to shame ppl that aren't either. Just because somebody doesn't have the same prefs as you doesn't mean they're ignorant on rape or marital life. As already stated by somebody else, rape isn't always gruesome with other physical abuse. And rape doesn't always have a female victim. And just like I'm not familiar with your life and can't say I've walked in your shoes as far as marriage and a child, you're not familiar with mine and haven't been through some of the things I have...and the same for everybody on here. Because of that, your statement of learn more about rape and such just sounds ignorant to me.

Well said

This will be my last reply dear
So when u r sleeping u r just sleeping its not like u became unconscious or senseless. When he touches me while I'm sleeping I wake up instantly and if I don't want to then he stops right there honey I believe its the same with most of the people unless they r sick or senseless or unconscious. So I won't say anything more about it. Let's just be happy with what we believe and prefer and also help people if we can.
Adios

Bye, I wouldn't want someone to touch me without permission when I'm awake. I'm just kink shaming you really hard lmao

Again, that's fine for your personal preference. You and your hubby like it, and that's great for you. If I was asleep and woke me up to my bf touching and doing stuff, I would not be ok with it. It would not feel good to me. It's an alarming moment for some ppl to wake up that way, and I'm one of them.

But the problem is when ppl that like it are with somebody who doesn't. It's not always respected. It's also wrong to assume that just b/c a girl gets wet or a dude has a hard-on, it means that he/she is reacting positively to it. Sensitivity is not an open invitation. I personally know somebody that had a reaction when somebody tried to take advantage of her, and she felt horrible and dirty afterwards b/c of it. She was told that since she had that reaction, she must have wanted it and just playing hard to get. That is NOT ok, and that is a load of crap.

By the way, I'm sorry for going off on your thread the way I have. This just happens to be a sensitive topic to me. I'm done now though! Wishing ya'll happy reading!!

I THINK HE'S THE ML

there is no ML. just appreciate the story and writing ffs

I don't really think this is a story that has a male lead. Maybe a love interest? But not really a lead yknow? :)