so I was rereading the Heel Sibling arc and was wondering if there was a translation mistake, because Ren states that they want to keep Cain Heels real identity (aka Ren Tsuruga) a secret even after the start of the movie...but that kind of doesn't make sense, what's the use of this? Wouldn't it benefits the movie more to reveal his identity at a later time to attract more watchers?
they would want it done through filming, at the very least, so the costars will treat him the same. There's also timing that needs to be considered with Ren's image. If it turns out shit, his name doesn't have to be attached to it.
The reason they want to keep it a secret is because it's a horror movie. Ren and others thinks that it will add drama and mystery to the film and add to the film's suspense.
"Who is Cain Heel? Hey, does he really exist? Is he that scary in person? Will he really come after me?"
They want the audience to still be engaged/immersed into the movie.
Think of the Blair Witch Project. Instead of saying it was a film, they marketed it as a documentary. The press and audience went crazy and that movie now has a cult following. And it changed how movies are filmed. Hence, some people see it as a game changer film. People honestly thought this movie was real. (If you don't know what the Blair Witch Project is than clearly I am older than you or you are not familiar with American horror movies because you might not be American or both!)
I think the film producer and director want that same effect. They and the audience to truly feel Cain Heel's presence even after they leave the film. They want the audience to feel as if they're actually being haunted by him. And that the plot in the movie can really happen to them. Therefore, it's like "the legend continues!" effect.
In order for that to happen you want the actor who plays B.J. to be just as scary and mysterious as B.J. and that's Cain Heel and not Ren.
Ren is Mr. Nice Guy/Everyone's Favorite. He's admired and not fear. They want the audience to scream if the think B.J. or Cain Heel is coming after them, and not squeal or "kya"/"Ren-sama come after me" if Ren is coming after them.
Also, the people on the set, the cast and crew, personal experience will add to Cain Heel's legend.
When they speak during the press conference, or individual interviews about how large and dominating Cain Heel's presence was on set. When they tell their friends and families that they were sacred to death of Cain Heel and their was real tension on the set. Rumors will start and the audience and press will believe it more.
(Press conference/interview/ friend or family member) : "How was it working with Cain Heel?"
Cast or crew: -"Well, truthfully Cain Heel is just as scary as B.J. or even more so in real life." -"I actually believe that he's a murderer in real life, so they actually hired someone who has done all of the things because he can honestly relate to B.J. and B.J.'s terror" -"I never want to see Cain Heel again, and if I do, I going to opposite way he's going." -"Cain Heel terrorized everyone on set, it was like B.J. had come to life."
In other words, if the cast truly believes it than the audience will believe it.
But, it's a double edge sword, on one hand, it aids the movie if they secret is keep. But it will aid Ren if the secret is eventually revealed. "Eventually" being the key word.
The only way it will help Ren is if the mystery behind Cain Heel is keep a secret and the tension/hoopla around Cain Heel builds and then they tell everyone it's Ren.
Then the reaction will be more, "Oh, that's Ren, it didn't know he can be that scary" "Wow, it didn't know Ren could act like that, he's an amazing actor"
And they don't want the audience or press to say: It/this movie was not scary or that Ren was not scary. Or who would ever believe Ren as B.J.! And/or I was not scared at all, what a waste of money. They shouldn't have casted Ren as B.J.!
It's kind of like when comedian take on darker roles and we criticize them before even seeing the movie because who would actually believe them as that character. All we see is the real person and not the character they are trying to portray. Ren, the producers, and director is trying to prevent this mentality from happening.
Stand by for my long, but detailed explanation:The reason they want to keep it a secret is because it's a horror movie. Ren and others thinks that it will add drama and mystery to the film and add to the film's... @My Name Here
Thanks that helped a lot!!!! And thanks for spending your time to write this :)
No problem, I wrote it in 2-3 minutes; which is why it has so many grammar errors. And I'm happy it helped! @My Name Here
Well shit dude, you really have some mind boggling writing skills. I bet you always get an A during essay tests. I'm jealous. Teach me your ways sensei.
Stand by for my long, but detailed explanation:The reason they want to keep it a secret is because it's a horror movie. Ren and others thinks that it will add drama and mystery to the film and add to the film's... @My Name Here
That's a really good explanation and it's well-detailed, too.
Well shit dude, you really have some mind boggling writing skills. I bet you always get an A during essay tests. I'm jealous. Teach me your ways sensei. @Anonymous
Best advice I can give you is to have someone, a teacher or professor, look at your essay and let them give you some personal advice on your writing skills.
The best advice an English high school teacher told me is "You're a good writer, but you're a fluff writer." Meaning I add a Sh*tload of extra crap in my paper (...which is true...^ see statement above as proof).
So, I know that I need to edit my papers before turning them into my professor.
In college, my professor once gave me two pieces of general advice:
(1) Put your paper away and read it two-three days later. Because after a while you stop reading your paper and the exact words written; and instead you start assuming what the paper says.
Meaning: In reality, you are reading what you want it to say and not what it actually says. And this will keep you from catching your mistakes. So, if you put it away and come back, your eyes are fresh and more focused on the actual paper and
(2) Remember that people aren't psychic (i.e. don't assume they know what you mean or know what you want to say). Ambiguous statements suits no one (my professor is a judge, so...). Be sure that your point is clear to others. But, there needs to be a balance, don't explain everything, that's boring and no one wants to read that paper (LOL, I miss his class).
Don’t forget the basics, most people tend to forget to answer the basics: who, what, when, where, how, and *why* (plus: why, why, and why). These are the foundations of every written piece.
An essay should have one central theme. Each paragraph should led to/built on the central theme.
Keep everything relevant, keep the essay on track and significant to the central theme.
Don’t repeat (unless you are writing a conclusion and/or tying it all together).
I think of an essay as an argument. The essay needs to explain why I’m correct in having my point of view/why I believe what I think. I think of essays as the story to my thought process.
Note: Even if someone disagrees with you, they should at least get how you reached your conclusion.
Essay are not summaries.
I once had a classmate get angry at my grade vs their grade. But, there was a huge difference in our essays. They were writing summaries and I was writing essay—which are analytical.
We were in college and they were still turning in summaries. Summaries should stop in middle school. The professor teaches the class, so they don’t need students to summarize info for them; try going beyond summaries. Concludes something and always have evidence for your conclusion. My college states that a summary in the essay should only be 2-3 sentences. That’s it.
Know the difference between objectivity and subjectivity.
Yes, an essay is technically your opinion, but your opinion should be supported by evidence.
It’s the same as when you were a kid and your parents asked you why you believe something and you just answer them with “because, I do”… Yeah, it’s only cute when you are 5 and missing a tooth…!
In-class essay advice (which can also be normal essay advice):
One, ask the teacher or professor what they look for in an in-class essay.
As the teacher/professor of practice questions and practice. Then ask them to tell you your paper’s/essay’s strengthens and weaknesses. What to keep, what to drop, and what to improve on.
Ask the teacher or professor (be warned, a professor might look at you strangely and say no) if you can read old/ex-students’ essays to see how other people write. (But, never feel that you have to recreate their work, just observe their format, their arguing techniques, and the clarity of their work).
Understand the difference between a personal essay and a professional essay. This is personal (and not an essay…) so I’m being informal. In-class essay are always formal. Break up paragraphs when appropriate, never use contractions in formal essays, a thesis should still be present, and a conclusion is still needed.
I don't always write as fast as I think (especially when I'm tired or don’t give a fUck), so I jot down my notes for the essay at the top of the paper or in the corner before I start writing (quick bulletin points, use a pencil and not pen...erase afterward). Write keywords, statements, questions, first impressions, whatever helps. That way, I don't forget my thoughts.
I once wrote “The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice” next to an essay question (and I forgot to erase it) and the professor circled it with question marks. Now, to me it was relevant, and I got full credit on the essay. But the professor was confused.
Circle the essay question(s) you want to answer and cross-out the ones you don’t want to answer (use a pencil just in case you change your mind). This is helpful when you have an “only answer 3 out of 5” essays test. This helps me to focus.
(Yes, this is a repeat, but it’s important)! Don’t forget the basics. Who, what, when, where, how, and *why* (plus: why, why, and why).
So, when I was in college, in my psyc-neuroscience class we often has to explain medical conditions.
So, these questions should be answered in the essay -What is the medical condition/what is the medical define of the condition? - What symptoms will appear?/When will symptoms appear? -Who is likely to suffer from the medical condition? -What causes the condition? -Where in the brain is the condition located/what part of the brain does it affect? -Is there are cure or treated? What drugs are used? What are the effects of the drugs? How do the drugs work?
In an English class, when you have to describe the character and their actions use the basics: who what, when, where, how, and why.
-Who are they as a person? (race, age, class, upbringing, religion, time, place, etc.) -What challenges have they faced? -How have these challenge affected them? -Where are they located? (Someone from the east coast might be different and someone from the west coast, Someone from Turkey might have different beliefs than someone from Italy) -What incident led to the actions? -Why did they react like that? (This is subjective, but use your “who, what, how, and where” to illustrate why you reached the conclusion you have reached).
My tip from personal experience: I suck at spelling, so I always give a disclaimer! (100% proud of that, thank you autocorrect--#noshame …I am just like Lois Lane...!).
Now, more of my personal experience/fluff: relax, practice, and remember that you can always get better. Know and trust that your point of view is valid and just as important as anyone else’s point of view.
Find your own voice and don’t copy others. Let them give their personal perspective and you proudly give yours…even if you are wrong as crap….! (Be the person that gives a standing ovulation all by yourself in a room full of people, and be oblivious as fUck! Whistle afterwards and slowly sit down!)
My first high school essay was crap. I honestly did not know what an essay was or how to write one. I grew up poor, my family was/is uneducated, the people in my neighbor went to prison and not college, all of my cousins dropped out of school by 14-16 (some earlier), and none of their high schools stories were about “essays”. Their stories were, shall we say, “interesting” but they were not academically educational.
So, I was starting from scratch. And I’m still improving.
Don’t make a big deal out of essays, they are just another way of communicating. You create verbal essays all the time! Just practice putting them on paper. Good luck!!!
Well shit dude, you really have some mind boggling writing skills. I bet you always get an A during essay tests. I'm jealous. Teach me your ways sensei. @Anonymous
Oh, and value other people's experiences just as you value your own.
This helps when you have to analyze others.
My personal experiences make me bias to certain things, so I have be aware of my biases and how they affect my judgment/writings.
If I have to analyze someone completely different from me, I try to see it from their point of view--even if I don't agree.
Now, this came in handy when I had to write about Romeo and Juliet.
I could not stand those two, they are annoying as hell. But, I keep my biases out of my essay and tried to understand their perspective.
And after understanding their perspective, I objectively concluded that they were still idiots.... But, now I get why they were idiots!
Oh, and value other people's experiences just as you value your own. This helps when you have to analyze others. My personal experiences make me bias to certain things, so I have be aware of my biases and how t... @My Name Here
Last thing, I promise (it's 10 p.m. so I'm not all here...long day). I meant to write this for one of the essays:
I don't always write as fast as I think (especially when I'm tired or don’t give a fUck), so I jot down my notes for the essay at the top of the paper or in the corner before I start writing (quick bulletin points, use a pencil and not pen...erase afterward). Write keywords, statements, questions, first impressions, my theme/thesis, whatever helps. That way, I don't forget my thoughts, feel rush, or lose focus.
Last thing, I promise (it's 10 p.m. so I'm not all here...long day). I meant to write this for one of the essays: I don't always write as fast as I think (especially when I'm tired or don’t give a fUck), so I... @My Name Here
*Conclude something/argue something and always have evidence for your conclusion.*
Last, last time. Going to sleep now. Early day tomorrow!
Seriously, Ishida-Sensei made this chapter better and better with each page. I don't know any other Manga which has so many meaning and feels in every single page.
so I was rereading the Heel Sibling arc and was wondering if there was a translation mistake, because Ren states that they want to keep Cain Heels real identity (aka Ren Tsuruga) a secret even after the start of the movie...but that kind of doesn't make sense, what's the use of this? Wouldn't it benefits the movie more to reveal his identity at a later time to attract more watchers?
they would want it done through filming, at the very least, so the costars will treat him the same. There's also timing that needs to be considered with Ren's image. If it turns out shit, his name doesn't have to be attached to it.
Stand by for my long, but detailed explanation:
The reason they want to keep it a secret is because it's a horror movie. Ren and others thinks that it will add drama and mystery to the film and add to the film's suspense.
"Who is Cain Heel? Hey, does he really exist? Is he that scary in person? Will he really come after me?"
They want the audience to still be engaged/immersed into the movie.
Think of the Blair Witch Project. Instead of saying it was a film, they marketed it as a documentary. The press and audience went crazy and that movie now has a cult following. And it changed how movies are filmed. Hence, some people see it as a game changer film. People honestly thought this movie was real. (If you don't know what the Blair Witch Project is than clearly I am older than you or you are not familiar with American horror movies because you might not be American or both!)
I think the film producer and director want that same effect. They and the audience to truly feel Cain Heel's presence even after they leave the film. They want the audience to feel as if they're actually being haunted by him. And that the plot in the movie can really happen to them. Therefore, it's like "the legend continues!" effect.
In order for that to happen you want the actor who plays B.J. to be just as scary and mysterious as B.J. and that's Cain Heel and not Ren.
Ren is Mr. Nice Guy/Everyone's Favorite. He's admired and not fear. They want the audience to scream if the think B.J. or Cain Heel is coming after them, and not squeal or "kya"/"Ren-sama come after me" if Ren is coming after them.
Also, the people on the set, the cast and crew, personal experience will add to Cain Heel's legend.
When they speak during the press conference, or individual interviews about how large and dominating Cain Heel's presence was on set. When they tell their friends and families that they were sacred to death of Cain Heel and their was real tension on the set. Rumors will start and the audience and press will believe it more.
(Press conference/interview/ friend or family member) : "How was it working with Cain Heel?"
Cast or crew:
-"Well, truthfully Cain Heel is just as scary as B.J. or even more so in real life."
-"I actually believe that he's a murderer in real life, so they actually hired someone who has done all of the things because he can honestly relate to B.J. and B.J.'s terror"
-"I never want to see Cain Heel again, and if I do, I going to opposite way he's going."
-"Cain Heel terrorized everyone on set, it was like B.J. had come to life."
In other words, if the cast truly believes it than the audience will believe it.
But, it's a double edge sword, on one hand, it aids the movie if they secret is keep. But it will aid Ren if the secret is eventually revealed. "Eventually" being the key word.
The only way it will help Ren is if the mystery behind Cain Heel is keep a secret and the tension/hoopla around Cain Heel builds and then they tell everyone it's Ren.
Then the reaction will be more, "Oh, that's Ren, it didn't know he can be that scary" "Wow, it didn't know Ren could act like that, he's an amazing actor"
And they don't want the audience or press to say: It/this movie was not scary or that Ren was not scary. Or who would ever believe Ren as B.J.! And/or I was not scared at all, what a waste of money. They shouldn't have casted Ren as B.J.!
It's kind of like when comedian take on darker roles and we criticize them before even seeing the movie because who would actually believe them as that character. All we see is the real person and not the character they are trying to portray. Ren, the producers, and director is trying to prevent this mentality from happening.
So, they are keeping it a secret.
I hope this helped!
Thanks that helped a lot!!!! And thanks for spending your time to write this :)
No problem, I wrote it in 2-3 minutes; which is why it has so many grammar errors. And I'm happy it helped!
Well shit dude, you really have some mind boggling writing skills. I bet you always get an A during essay tests. I'm jealous. Teach me your ways sensei.
That's a really good explanation and it's well-detailed, too.
Best advice I can give you is to have someone, a teacher or professor, look at your essay and let them give you some personal advice on your writing skills.
The best advice an English high school teacher told me is "You're a good writer, but you're a fluff writer." Meaning I add a Sh*tload of extra crap in my paper (...which is true...^ see statement above as proof).
So, I know that I need to edit my papers before turning them into my professor.
In college, my professor once gave me two pieces of general advice:
(1) Put your paper away and read it two-three days later. Because after a while you stop reading your paper and the exact words written; and instead you start assuming what the paper says.
Meaning: In reality, you are reading what you want it to say and not what it actually says. And this will keep you from catching your mistakes. So, if you put it away and come back, your eyes are fresh and more focused on the actual paper and
(2) Remember that people aren't psychic (i.e. don't assume they know what you mean or know what you want to say). Ambiguous statements suits no one (my professor is a judge, so...). Be sure that your point is clear to others. But, there needs to be a balance, don't explain everything, that's boring and no one wants to read that paper (LOL, I miss his class).
Don’t forget the basics, most people tend to forget to answer the basics: who, what, when, where, how, and *why* (plus: why, why, and why). These are the foundations of every written piece.
An essay should have one central theme. Each paragraph should led to/built on the central theme.
Keep everything relevant, keep the essay on track and significant to the central theme.
Don’t repeat (unless you are writing a conclusion and/or tying it all together).
I think of an essay as an argument. The essay needs to explain why I’m correct in having my point of view/why I believe what I think. I think of essays as the story to my thought process.
Note: Even if someone disagrees with you, they should at least get how you reached your conclusion.
Essay are not summaries.
I once had a classmate get angry at my grade vs their grade. But, there was a huge difference in our essays. They were writing summaries and I was writing essay—which are analytical.
We were in college and they were still turning in summaries. Summaries should stop in middle school. The professor teaches the class, so they don’t need students to summarize info for them; try going beyond summaries. Concludes something and always have evidence for your conclusion. My college states that a summary in the essay should only be 2-3 sentences. That’s it.
Know the difference between objectivity and subjectivity.
Yes, an essay is technically your opinion, but your opinion should be supported by evidence.
It’s the same as when you were a kid and your parents asked you why you believe something and you just answer them with “because, I do”… Yeah, it’s only cute when you are 5 and missing a tooth…!
In-class essay advice (which can also be normal essay advice):
One, ask the teacher or professor what they look for in an in-class essay.
As the teacher/professor of practice questions and practice. Then ask them to tell you your paper’s/essay’s strengthens and weaknesses. What to keep, what to drop, and what to improve on.
Ask the teacher or professor (be warned, a professor might look at you strangely and say no) if you can read old/ex-students’ essays to see how other people write. (But, never feel that you have to recreate their work, just observe their format, their arguing techniques, and the clarity of their work).
Understand the difference between a personal essay and a professional essay. This is personal (and not an essay…) so I’m being informal. In-class essay are always formal. Break up paragraphs when appropriate, never use contractions in formal essays, a thesis should still be present, and a conclusion is still needed.
I don't always write as fast as I think (especially when I'm tired or don’t give a fUck), so I jot down my notes for the essay at the top of the paper or in the corner before I start writing (quick bulletin points, use a pencil and not pen...erase afterward). Write keywords, statements, questions, first impressions, whatever helps. That way, I don't forget my thoughts.
I once wrote “The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice” next to an essay question (and I forgot to erase it) and the professor circled it with question marks. Now, to me it was relevant, and I got full credit on the essay. But the professor was confused.
Circle the essay question(s) you want to answer and cross-out the ones you don’t want to answer (use a pencil just in case you change your mind). This is helpful when you have an “only answer 3 out of 5” essays test. This helps me to focus.
(Yes, this is a repeat, but it’s important)! Don’t forget the basics. Who, what, when, where, how, and *why* (plus: why, why, and why).
So, when I was in college, in my psyc-neuroscience class we often has to explain medical conditions.
So, these questions should be answered in the essay
-What is the medical condition/what is the medical define of the condition?
- What symptoms will appear?/When will symptoms appear?
-Who is likely to suffer from the medical condition?
-What causes the condition?
-Where in the brain is the condition located/what part of the brain does it affect?
-Is there are cure or treated? What drugs are used? What are the effects of the drugs? How do the drugs work?
In an English class, when you have to describe the character and their actions use the basics: who what, when, where, how, and why.
-Who are they as a person? (race, age, class, upbringing, religion, time, place, etc.)
-What challenges have they faced?
-How have these challenge affected them?
-Where are they located? (Someone from the east coast might be different and someone from the west coast, Someone from Turkey might have different beliefs than someone from Italy)
-What incident led to the actions?
-Why did they react like that? (This is subjective, but use your “who, what, how, and where” to illustrate why you reached the conclusion you have reached).
My tip from personal experience: I suck at spelling, so I always give a disclaimer! (100% proud of that, thank you autocorrect--#noshame …I am just like Lois Lane...!).
Now, more of my personal experience/fluff: relax, practice, and remember that you can always get better. Know and trust that your point of view is valid and just as important as anyone else’s point of view.
Find your own voice and don’t copy others. Let them give their personal perspective and you proudly give yours…even if you are wrong as crap….! (Be the person that gives a standing ovulation all by yourself in a room full of people, and be oblivious as fUck! Whistle afterwards and slowly sit down!)
My first high school essay was crap. I honestly did not know what an essay was or how to write one. I grew up poor, my family was/is uneducated, the people in my neighbor went to prison and not college, all of my cousins dropped out of school by 14-16 (some earlier), and none of their high schools stories were about “essays”. Their stories were, shall we say, “interesting” but they were not academically educational.
So, I was starting from scratch. And I’m still improving.
Don’t make a big deal out of essays, they are just another way of communicating. You create verbal essays all the time! Just practice putting them on paper. Good luck!!!
Oh, and value other people's experiences just as you value your own.
This helps when you have to analyze others.
My personal experiences make me bias to certain things, so I have be aware of my biases and how they affect my judgment/writings.
If I have to analyze someone completely different from me, I try to see it from their point of view--even if I don't agree.
Now, this came in handy when I had to write about Romeo and Juliet.
I could not stand those two, they are annoying as hell. But, I keep my biases out of my essay and tried to understand their perspective.
And after understanding their perspective, I objectively concluded that they were still idiots.... But, now I get why they were idiots!
Thanks!
Last thing, I promise (it's 10 p.m. so I'm not all here...long day). I meant to write this for one of the essays:
I don't always write as fast as I think (especially when I'm tired or don’t give a fUck), so I jot down my notes for the essay at the top of the paper or in the corner before I start writing (quick bulletin points, use a pencil and not pen...erase afterward). Write keywords, statements, questions, first impressions, my theme/thesis, whatever helps. That way, I don't forget my thoughts, feel rush, or lose focus.
*Conclude something/argue something and always have evidence for your conclusion.*
Last, last time. Going to sleep now. Early day tomorrow!