I loved this story so much, but... I've fallen off. This last fight arc is taking so goddamn long. I don't even know if it actually is that long, but it *feels* it. I've taken a break and not read this manga in months, and yet picking up and continuing to read isn't exciting anymore, it just leaves me feeling exhausted. Don't get me wrong I don't want the manga to end, but goddamn, please end this arc already. I get that the author has a lot they want to put in, but like.. maybe they should have spaced those things out or condensed them some other way, cause fucking hell this needs to end so we can have a break. Tired of being stuck in this never ending fight scene interspersed with tragic flashbacks. _(:l 」∠ )_
You didn't really love it then. Your love is too shallow
Your comment screams “I’m 14 and this is deep”
It’s a story. People are allowed to love it but become tired of it too. Despite how you feel, some of us find the pacing drawn out and too many character arc conclusions crammed into this one arc leaving it horrifically bloated. It’s a story, it shouldn’t be loved unconditionally
Yours screams "I'm a loser irl and crave attention so I'll rant online since nobody knows me" lol
You're being pretty rude, and I'd say that has a lot to do with the anonymity afforded to you by being online. It's presumptuous of you to think you know how I feel better than I do too. Just because I'm critical of this arc, doesn't mean I don't love MHA. One can love something and acknowledge it's flaws just fine. It's ok. If you see no problem with this arc, good for you. I'm jealous you're aren't suffering action fatigue.
It rather feels like Horikoshi is trying to tie up all the loose ends this arc and end the manga, and I'd rather they spaced them out a bit better so we can get more time and story. It's a real shame about the pacing.
Thank you for putting my thoughts in to words better! "Horrifically bloated" is indeed how I feel about this last arc. ^_^
The art is alright, which is always nice, but the story, well when it's summarized is fine, but when you actually read it, it's not that great. A lot of people have complained that it's boring, and while i kind of get where their coming from, it wasn't really boring for me, but more frustrating. This plot needs more character moments for me. Like the best friends interact, but they don't talk about anything important. Like the main character witnessed a murder and got coerced into marriage. I get that this is trying to be like Beauty and the Beast, but in that story, the Beast had very strong reasons to not harm Belle, and to treat her well in hopes that she could maybe come to love him. And thus save EVERYONE who was cursed.
In this story, Arsene seems to develop some feelings of affection towards Regina, but she sure as hell doesn't see it, is constantly terrified being with her murderer (except when she's not which is just contrived as fuck) and has no guarantees he wont kill her. She is alive because Arsene chooses to let her live, for no particular reason other than... "taking control of public opinion"?? Which i found paper thin as far as reasons go, and have no idea why or how he actually needs her. And the story doesn't show it either. They do not discuss anything, Regina never even says "please let me go, i swear i wont tell, you saw that i covered for you right? Please! I won't ever tell, I don't wanna die!" she thinks things to this effect, but never says them to him, and he- doesn't really take it to heart? Like he acts like he likes her, but doesn't give a single thought as to why she may smile in the company of her friends more than with him, or why she's constantly jumpy around him. If anything he finds it funny.
The weird rivalry between Isota and Arsene is just... huh?? I get why Isota's wary and wants to get her friend away from this guy, but Arsene? Why is he inserting himself into their time together? Why is he acting like Isota's someone to fight over Regina for? It's just baffling, and we get no character moments, or thoughts from anyone on the subject other than Regina thinking "well this is weird". And that's just it.. why isn't she reacting more? Why doesn't she talk about anything? Why isn't she asking why Isota's so against Arsene? Doesn't she want to protect her friend from potentially getting hurt? Also the whole convo where Regina asked Arsene about how he feels about Isota is just so weird! None of the more important questions are asked, it just feels like a waste.
Regina talks about making plans to get away, but we aren't shown her actually doing it, or talking to anyone about it. Like she's alone, and she should be looking for allies or routes out of the kingdom, or something. This stuff with the empress dowager would be interesting, but it's not the main focus of the story, and unfortunately so far the main focus is all talk with nothing to show. I feel Regina's fear, and I hate when they insidiously insert the "Oh why did i just think of him?" trope in the middle of that fear. It's just so out of place!
Exactly my thoughts! I thought this story would be interesting, but so far, I’m kinda just like eh. I don’t like the dynamic between the male and female lead, like Ik they’re gon inevitably end up together…but I honestly don’t know how you can love a man who blackmailed you into marrying him and then left you dangling in fear all the time. And why does she never voice her thoughts either, like she just seems jumpy around him all the time, he already knows you saw so at least just tell him you won’t say anything to get him off your back even a lil. Sigh smh, I hope it gets better
Eh, I think I'm dropping this. It doesn't seem like it's going to give me anything i actually want, so I'll just move on. As you said the dynamic between the leads isn't great, and I too cannot see Regina falling in love with Arsene in a way that I'll find believable and enjoyable. Good luck to you though! I hope your patience with this story is rewarded. ^^
The MC deserved to leave that place entirely and go start a new somewhere else. No-one there deserved him, not his dad, his mom or any of the kids he lived with save maybe the clumsy freshman who *at least* tried to fucking help, even though he was crap at it. He at least made en effort. I hate that the main character just sort of forgives the male lead even though he deserved to be punched in the face a couple times. "I didn't need to be told to know how you felt" Fuck off! He didn't know shit, or he wouldn't have continued to treat the main character like a servant. Also coming at the main character with that bullshit that he was "just running away" like fuck right off, his father dismissed *everything* he said to him about the things he wanted. Of course he was choosing to fucking leave. He'd also planned to get a part time job, and pay for his tuition himself and maybe get some help from his mom seeing as he was apparently going to move in with her. Like he had a plan, he'd made a decision to go somewhere where he could be fucking appreciated for existing and not his skills in servitude. Mother of god and all her deformed children this was an unsatisfying read! Especially after reading Junketsu drop. And the main character is in that manga too, and now i just feel really bad for him cause even in the fucking student council room he's stuck doting on someone else! ｡･ﾟヾ(✦థ ｪ థ)ﾉ｡ﾟ･｡
I don't feel like the mom handled everything well, but I get why she did it. The rest of the kids were asses other than the cute little clumsy child.
exactly, and why is running away even a bad thing at all? not everything has to amout to something grand. running away to become happy is good. because more than material things, people around you can make you miserable very easily
Seems to be Toxic male leads (tops? Semes?) all the way down. I had to stop reading because of the second couple's top. He appears to be jealous of his love interest's devotion to his kid (or the kid his love interest has raised), so yeah, hard pass. For all of ya'll who are into overly possessive jealous dirt bags, enjoy! This was written for you~!
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It takes a bit before we really see their true colors, but I'm sure the build up is worth it. Also bullshit power plays are gonna be a thing, so look forward to that too.
I’m confused. I haven’t read this in a long time so maybe I forgot but I don’t remember anyone being toxic. But I respect your opinion
did you by any means misunderstand the plotΣ( ￣□￣||)
Nothing of that sort happens here bruh what are on about. Also the second couple aren't even that focused on here it's mostly about the main couple so where did you get that view from???
Ehh but you do you ig. That's your opinion
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Pffft... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Did the top of the main couple not threaten the poor halfling with firing him if they didn't date? Yes he didn't actually mean it, but halfling took him seriously and *that's* why he agreed to it. Did main top not slam the halfling into a car even though he knew he was sick and weak, just cause he was disappeared on him after a night of sex? "I need sex to survive"? Yes! He did! That is toxic?? Yes the top had a right to be angry, but not that fucking angry! I admit i read past that because i was hoping it wasn't as bad as it seemed, and he does seem to genuinely care, but nope, then the other guy entered the scene. The other top had the head vampire's blood the whole time. The blood that would supposedly save his love interest's kid's life, and does not give it to him, even though he'd been begged to get it (and also paid in sex to get it too)! (TOOOOOXIC!) Instead side top gives it to main top to turn him into a vampire. I stopped there cause fuck these guys. If it turns out good for all of them, whatever, but please don't try to gaslight me by saying they weren't horrendous pieces of garbage at the beginning. Couldn't get passed that shit.
Might I suggest re-reading the first chapters where main top threatens with firing the halfling unless he dates him, despite halfling wanting noting more than a sex buddy that isn't him? Halfling never called him on it, so he never knew he wouldn't actually do it. Or how main top slammed sick halfling up against a car for the crime of leaving without a word in the morning? And not just shoved, he slammed him up against that car hard.
This isn't an opinion. It's fact. It may have gotten better later, and you may like the story, but that is still horrendous behavior.
Bro these are legit fictional characters(also what's with your writing, it's cringe). You shouldn't let something so irrelevant get into your head this hard yk.
Just chill this is just one out of hundreds strories here. Move on
Legit fictional characters expected to comport with some degree of realism in order to be compelling and believable. Sorry, not sorry for the cringe. =) You could have not reacted to my comment at all, but instead chose to ask me if i'd misunderstood the plot. You can like toxic shitty characters if you like "bro", and you can like terrible stories too "bro", but don't lie to yourself. Or try to dismiss the toxic behavior displayed by certain characters to be my "opinion". It's toxic, and you apparently like it, and are welcome to enjoy it if you so choose.
Okay
My profile do be matching my reaction while reading these lmao.
Ugh kid just grow up and move on. If you think this is toxic you won't survive the real world
Also it's a story about legit vampires(￣∇￣") only a dumbass would expect it to be BeLiEvAbLE
Fully grown thanks! ^^ It's all down hill from here~. Also, only a dumbass who doesn't know shit about stories would say that. But sure, you go ahead and pretend in-wrold logic doesn't exist just to win an argument with a stranger. Also wow, did you really just say that about the toxic elements in this story?? Did you really just question my survivability in the "real world" based on *this*?? Buddy get some therapy. Like seriously. If someone treats you like these fictional characters treat their equally fictional love interests (in the beginning of this story anyway), do. not. stay. Leave! Find a halfway house, a shelter, a friend, a hotline, a restraining order. Please, for your own personal health and safety, do not think any of this is ok in the real word! It is no-one's job to put up with extremely shitty behavior just because they're in a relationship with said person. Cutting toxic people out of your life doesn't make you lesser. It makes your life better!
Unless of course you say that because you're the one threatening/blackmailing people and or bodily slamming people against walls hard enough to give them concussions. In which case, it would make sense why you'd downplay such behavior.
YES EXACTLY Now go say that to the characters! And stream butter on May 21st
Why would I say anything to comic book characters? I was saying it to you, cause you actually exist and apparently needed to know these things. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean about butter, or May 21st, but it must be significant to you, so all the best! I hope whatever's happening on the 21st goes well for you! ^^
I think the "i'll fire you if u don't go out with me" thing was like a joke just to have his attention
I'm afraid not. In his head he was saying "please buy it, please buy it." >__< as in: top wasn't actually going to fire him, no, but our wilting flower of a halfling believed him and thus agreed to out with him through blackmail. Our halfling never found out the truth, and the top never told him he wasn't serious about the firing.
Yep, but you shouldn't take that seriously.
It's fiction and people shouldn't expect to learn something from it or it to be too real.
These comics are just made to entertainment not to teach lesson about life.
So yeah, it's toxic (not really in this story in particular), it's whatever you want but you should take it as it is
To be honest, I'm not sure how to respond to this. In my original comment i stated that this story had some toxic elements, and decided to drop it. From my understanding it's still very much the beginning, but I couldn't overlook these things and stopped. People then came trying to gaslight me by saying they weren't that bad. I disagreed, because the things happened and they were bad, and they were beyond my tolerance level (obviously not theirs, possibly not yours). Plot contrivance made it so that everything apparently turned out fine, happy end! Or so I have extrapolated. That's fine. If people like the story, that's fine. It is their right to like it despite the I guess initial(?) toxic behavior of certain characters. Fine. I don't care. Good for them. What pissed me off about the other comments and yours was people trying to belittle or outright deny the things that happened at the beginning. They did happen. The characters got over it, got together and were happy (again i assume this ended happily). That's it.
All that said, what do you want? Me to like this story despite the elements that put me off? For me to not be dislike the things i don't like, or to tolerate things i find intolerable in this story?
I realise this reply may sound aggressive, possibly even angry, but I assure you that's not the case. I'm genuinely befuddled by what it was you were trying to impart with your comment, cause it just sounds like "Stop thinking and feeling things and just like this like the rest of us do." ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Wait, what?
I just expressed my opinion like everyone does.
If you don't like it it's fine, everyone has their own preferences, right?
I'm not here to cause a fuss, judge you or else.
I was just expressing my thoughts
I just don't belive fiction has to necessarily teach people how to behave in relationships, that's all!
And I just want to say that obviously that behaviour is toxic and I do not approve it in any form when it comes to reality
Ah, alrighty then. We're on the same page.
I don't agree about toxic behavior in stories being portrayed positively, cause it does affect people, and can cause some to think it's alright in reality. Otherwise it's whatever.
yep, I agree
btw I apologize for all those "just" that I'm noticing after 6 hours
I was to tired to write in a decent way (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
There's... There's just so much about this manga that I like, and so much that just doesn't make sense. This last arc with some sort of death game happening... it just seemed so out of no-where, and weird. The way they treat the concept of being a "hero" seems closer to me as that of a saint or something. "We're not heroes we're sorcerers." I get what the sentiment behind those words in those instances in the manga, in a way, but the actual words themselves just... don't make sense to me? In One Piece when Luffy says he's not a hero, you let it slide. Because he is a hero, his actions define him as such, and he's an idiot, and no-one's going to argue. He's a Pirate, but he's most definitely a hero too. When the sorcerers say it here, being all serious and not actual idiots like someone like Luffy, it just sounds... well it sounds wrong. Cause they are. They save people by killing curses, or they kill curses and save people, it's literally part of their identity as sorcerers. If the curses didn't hurt anyone, these people wouldn't be out there fighting curses. Or at least no-where was it indicated in the story that the sorcerers exist and fight the curses for any other reason other than curses kill people.
Also Megumi's whole "I choose who to save!" thing is laughable to me, because it implies that people who are considered heroes don't do the same. Also I've not seen Megumi once let someone die he could actually still save. Which just leads me to believe the author is a bit confused. To be fair when Megumi first made his appearance in the manga, and said something like that I thought "Oh... he has middle school syndrome, got it." Despite these flaws i do like the story and the characters. Some of the art, the color balance, the layout of the panels, something in all that reminds me so much of Hunter x Hunter, and it's goooood!
But yeah... some "beliefs" held by the characters in this story are just... nonsensical to the point of hilarity. I can't tell you how long I laughed after patchwork face talked about the heart, body and soul. It's some of the funniest overthinking I've seen, and it appears to be done completely unironically, which makes it even funnier. Though to be fair, my confusion could also be due to the translation. I dunno how accurate it is, or how well it was done, although sentence structure seems intact for the most part. So who knows. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Personally, I think you are right when you say they view heroes as saints. Because rn if you think about a hero you won't be like "Oh before he saved he also let thousands of people die." I think 'hero' here is closer to perfect and I also feel like they wanted to comfort Itadori because even tho he thought he could be a hero if he was a sorcerer and he even was somewhat desperate to become one, he killed hundreds when he let Sukuna loose(I know he couldn't stop it but it's clear Itadori still blames himself). Also, I think they wanted to draw a line, like, "being a sorcerer doesn't mean you are a hero" because we know there are countless sorcerers who make a living by killing others people.
Anyway idk where I wanted to go with this little rant, but I hope I made my point of view clear or that I shed some light on the situation...idk
I was really disappointed when I started reading this. The summary made it sound like Sylvia would be ugly, which by these webtoon standards means "not a supermodel". Most of these stories has the protagonist turn into the most gorgeous woman to ever walk the planet, so it wasn't unexpected, but i really thought she'd have to actually work for it, and that for a time she would still be "ugly". Instead all she had to do was *breath* holy shit. She hadn't been in her new place for a day yet, and she turns skinny and really pretty. Which yeah there's like a throwaway line that she was always pretty, but Sylvia herself never could see it cause she's an abuse victim but still... It just... ugh...
Also the summary made it seem like the guys would become fond of her because of what she does and who she is and that it outshines her "ugliness" so they fall for her because she's a good person. I was looking forward to her being discriminated against, and just rising above it and being comfortable in who she is and her own new skin. At least *before* she turns into a swan.
I'm not saying the story is bad! It's alright, I kept reading despite my disappointment, but i don't think i'll come back to this when it updates.
This person! They know how to draw both people -and- anim- well wolves!! That's so rare! They usually only know how to draw one or the other! This is so wonderful!ヾ(☆▽☆)
Your child is self-harming because he wants to succeed at something he hasn't yet. This has been going on for some time. Upon confronting the child he confesses to feeling pressured to perform. Should probably take him to therapy...
Everyone in this family could have used some therapy, and Endeavor being in a high risk profession should probably have a specially designated mental health service he (and family) could easily turn to for these sorts of things. I can't remember if this has ever been addressed plot wise though. But then again there is a storied and proud tradition in superhero comics of ignoring the mental health industry and/or outright vilifying it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's a burden as a hero, you & your family had to be perfect to the public. Maybe that's the reason why he & his family didn't go for a therapy....poor touya was ignited by endeavor to surpass all might since a child but just end up felt abandoned by his own father...the way endeavor deal with the situation was really sick...he had to confronted & support touya saying that his power was self distructive but he still proud of him, not by creating another children... Well, you are creating your own enemy...
Sssiiiiiiiiigggghhhh.............................................................................................
Mental health is stigmatized enough without it being propagated in media of all kinds.
Also, yes, Touya has a tragic backstory. He grew up to be a piece of murderous garbage, and while Endeavor certainly deserves a lot of the blame, so does Touya. He got obsessed, refused to stop even though his family begging him to stop, and decided murdering people was ok. Endeavor certainly did not push him into killing, he decided that on is own.
You can still like him as villain, I'll stick to hating Dabi.
Yeah, the translation is trash, not worth the time and effort.