joonphany September 22, 2024 2:27 am

i dont usually like age gap but here it’s so well portrayed that i really enjoyed read it!!

joonphany September 22, 2024 1:48 am

why do i think that all this is itadori’s dream…??

joonphany September 21, 2024 1:53 am

that so well writen that i just can’t stop myself from talking out loud when i read this ahah!
1. the main couple have to break up. like jiho lost his spirit for food and inwoo has too many issues that he have to sort out. the « savior syndrome » that jiho have is too much like he puts on himself too much pressure, inwoo do this too but hide it much more and without the syndrome. the traumas that he have can’t be help if he doesnt talk about it or face it. i can understand why people don’t like jiho’s actions the first time but right now he did the right thing.
2. for the second couple, I BEG YOU COMMUNICATE!!! like wtf i was so happy for them to kiss and all and now you tell me that they think and don’t talk it out?! wtf no please no!!! i love them so much and i love boram (i think its his name??) so i want them to last! i was so afraid that the green hair one would be like « oh no i still like jiho so no relationship » but he just don’t know how to express his feelings and communicate them and i so understand that (he’s just like me….) but boram has to do the job too! they can’t sort it out without communication. and i know it sound like « the sky is bleu the sun is yellow » but watch they don’t understand the most commun thing its annoying omg

joonphany September 21, 2024 1:27 am

i feel like the kiss was different and the look omg like wtf?? the ML is changing too like we can see that he is different from before idk if you see what i mean?? am i the only one to see that??

    rAwRzXx September 21, 2024 4:37 am

    Ngl I want to see the ML chase for MC arc.. but then another ML appears and then boogsh who will he choose??

    joonphany September 22, 2024 1:30 am
    Ngl I want to see the ML chase for MC arc.. but then another ML appears and then boogsh who will he choose?? rAwRzXx

    idk i sont really like love triangle so im not really with you with this one but chase arc is sooo good so im hoping that we will get that! but with the way things turned out i don’t really see that coming :/

joonphany September 1, 2024 5:50 am

im a bit…. bitter? like the ending is so not what i expected and im sad because its my favorite manga so i was expecting so much more…. but its not over yet, i hope that the two more chapters will be great

joonphany September 1, 2024 5:33 am

i love this story so much like this discussion was so interesting and so refreashing! i like the way we can understand them without inner dialogue but with them commucating. and to think that the ML believe in soulmate and everything althougt MC doesn’t is sooo interesting because in other bl it’s always the MC who think like that and her too attached or the ML is a romantic but its too parodic and annoying. omg this story is the best, one of my top3 and it’s not the third!

joonphany August 22, 2024 2:06 am

i really like the side couple but i can understand why people cant appreciate them. we have the main couple in crisis so we want to see about them but i dont know i kinda like the fact that its in the middle of all the bad stuff around the main couple, its like a break and i think its great to see somthing refreashing and breezy like them! i dont know if that makes sense or if im the only one to think that ahah

    Teii August 24, 2024 1:14 am

    I 100 % agree. I love the side couple, they're a nice break from all the drama surrounding the main couple.

joonphany August 22, 2024 1:58 am

when the seme said « are liking someone and wanting to sleep with them two separate things? » i was like damn right it’s differant because as an asexual i put a big separation like for me you can have big feeling like love for someone and don’t feel the need or the desire to sleep with them. i know that it’s not really « common » and that for a bl who as a lot of sex its a « must » but its like really frustrating in my opinion. of course i dont say that its horrible and that im really offended but i can’t help my mind to tick and be like « well you know we exist and we can have great relationship without sex »…. but of course its my opinion and its not like i hate the stories for that, in that case i would stop reading it and voilà!

    tomato呀呀 August 22, 2024 3:06 am

    i just realise from this comment that i’m asexual. i’ve had feelings for someone but i never actually feel the need to have sex with them or more like, i don’t mind not doing it. i thought i was the weird one bc i personally don’t have that sexual drive but i wouldn’t mind doing it if my partner wants it bc everyone is different in that department. but yea bc basically clears

    Nobody August 22, 2024 3:47 am

    Yes! It kinda bothers me that love and sex and so intertwined. You can love someone and not want to have sex with them. You can also not love someone and want to have sex with them.
    It’s complicated.

    A long time ago I read a book called Understanding Asexuality and at once point the author wrote how it was possible to fall in love with someone of the same sex and not be sexually attracted to them because even though most of the time love and sex are thought of together, it doesn’t have to be that way.

    When I first read Yeon-oh’s thoughts, I was like “yes, you can like someone and not want to sleep with them.”

    Unrelated, but have you read “ Is Love the Answer?”
    It has an asexual main character. (Non BL).

    Girdyn August 22, 2024 7:06 am

    Most people has sex as a basic need, wake up

    zyzell August 22, 2024 2:35 pm
    Most people has sex as a basic need, wake up Girdyn

    god, what are you? an animal? it's not a basic need, you can well off survive without it.

    Fluffy August 22, 2024 8:51 pm
    Most people has sex as a basic need, wake up Girdyn

    This is triggering to read as an Ace. Don't judge everyone with your own standards. That's immature.

    tomato呀呀 August 23, 2024 2:08 am
    Most people has sex as a basic need, wake up Girdyn

    basic need? lolololol are you saying if there’s a natural disaster and you’ll still need sex to survive? dumb af

    Girdyn August 23, 2024 2:38 am
    basic need? lolololol are you saying if there’s a natural disaster and you’ll still need sex to survive? dumb af tomato呀呀

    A disaster is a type crisis about survival, first you need to survive. But once people can walk and talk, they'll be back to sex, that's a given. Even lizards (that mostly hate sex) will mate anyway, it's just a dominant behaviour required for thriving. But since polite society became all bitchy about sex and woman virginity/purity, we started developing traumas and crisis towards a natural and healthy human connection.
    Obviously some outliers won't have this need, but well, the species would simply go away. (Not thats bad, i wish humans disappeared)

    Fluffy August 23, 2024 6:24 am
    A disaster is a type crisis about survival, first you need to survive. But once people can walk and talk, they'll be back to sex, that's a given. Even lizards (that mostly hate sex) will mate anyway, it's just ... Girdyn

    What do people consider normal? What majority of the people think is considered normal and the minority are shunned as weirdos. I get that you have the 'normal' mentality. Must be convenient to have contraceptions in this world or else I wonder how many kids would be running around parent less.

    Also no one became 'bitchy' about virginity or purity. It's talk like these demeaning it makes even minors aged eleven to lose their virginity so that they can brag to their peers. Kids get pregnant in middle school and gets abortions. If they were afraid to do the deed they wouldn't do such things. But glorifying sex has messed up their mentality. If there's no discipline in the world then there's no point in being human. Aren't you basically a beast relying on instincts? Humans are humans due to a reason. They need self-control afterall.

    Now-a-days even discipline is considered offensive. Too bad that humans are no longer acting like one.

    And it's better if the species dwindles anyway since It's overpopulated and is sucking the earth dry, one thing we agree with each other.

    Girdyn August 23, 2024 3:22 pm
    What do people consider normal? What majority of the people think is considered normal and the minority are shunned as weirdos. I get that you have the 'normal' mentality. Must be convenient to have contracepti... Fluffy

    First, I seldom use the word "normal", since to me, whats abnormal is more like a crime or simptoms of a disease.
    I do like the word "common", tho. You're not common and believe you or not, my borderline-autistic-gay-ass isn't common as well, but we're both normal.
    When I say "bitchy about sex", I'm referring to that exact mentality of glorifiyng and making a big deal out of sex. Saying "I don't like sex" should be like "I don't like sushi", something about an individual that's uncommon, but normal.
    The biggest issue here, is the fact that sex is profitable, men keep consuming porn regularly (thats not normal) and then act all high and mighty about women with a "big body count".
    When I talk about "basic need", I'm being simply technical about biology, I'm aware that sometimes my bluntness make myself hard to read, that's my bad. While living creatures have that tendency, we humans made it WEIRD, just like patriarchy is rare as fuck in nature, we can see a pattern here. Come on, we got to 2024 8kk people in that spinning rock, animal brain (yes we're animals, and that's not a bad thing) is hardwired to reproduction, thats why orgasm exist. As sentients, we changed the game and now the line is blurred, we made sex about power, when it should be about connection. Result: a bunch of horny men and wary women, that could be enjoying their sexuality but are too afraid of rape and labels.
    Second, I do agree children shouldn't be exposed to sex wtf, unfortunately, the internet fucked this part, and the sex internet provides, is disgusting and fictional.

    Tldr; sex is normal, not liking is also normal, capitalism fucked peoples minds.

    Girdyn August 23, 2024 3:24 pm
    god, what are you? an animal? it's not a basic need, you can well off survive without it. zyzell

    What are you, a plant? Oh wait, plants also have sex lmao. Just kidding mate, read my discussion above for clarification.

    Girdyn August 23, 2024 3:27 pm
    This is triggering to read as an Ace. Don't judge everyone with your own standards. That's immature. Fluffy

    Well, I said "most" and you said "everyone", changing people's statements for convenient argumentation is even more immature, as I said to the other pal, read my discussion above for clarification.

    Fluffy August 23, 2024 7:01 pm
    Well, I said "most" and you said "everyone", changing people's statements for convenient argumentation is even more immature, as I said to the other pal, read my discussion above for clarification. Girdyn

    Did you think the OP and other commenters before you weren't aware of what you first commented? Your input was unnecessary in the first place. So I wasn't wrong in using the term 'everyone'. This was a peaceful discussion between fellow aces before you came in tho.

    But I mostly agree with your previous comment. You indeed weren't clear on what you wanted to say so glad that cleared it up.

    It is indeed biology and something most people need so I get where you are coming from but I stand by the point of the other commenter where you can go without it. I'm actually an aegosexual and only books make the cut for me but I absolutely do not have any intention of actually doing it.

    Well my culture plays a part and my personality more but people don't care much about breaking rules so they indulge themselves knowing it's wrong. And I can't tolerate it and I simply turn a blind eye to it except when it affects the people close to me. But the repurcurssions are bad which could have very well be prevented if those freaking horn dogs had some self control and empathy towards their own family.

    Animals are indeed made to procreate. It's is a wild instinct. Humans may be animals but they are the highest form on earth with enough intelligence to know right from wrong so they should really learn some self control in this aspect. Kids learn from adults and it will be a never ending cycle. In a destructive way. In the end it all rounds up to selfishness on our part.

    Well I'm selfish too since I'm arguing I'm right and you wrong when I know my argument will pass from your eyes out of your ears so you can take my point or leave it idrc. Just don't start arguments when all we wanted to do was rant to get some stuff off our chest capish? And to let you know, you weren't exactly polite when you popped in so we returned the favour.

    Girdyn August 23, 2024 7:44 pm
    Did you think the OP and other commenters before you weren't aware of what you first commented? Your input was unnecessary in the first place. So I wasn't wrong in using the term 'everyone'. This was a peaceful... Fluffy

    How long have you been using the internet? This is LITERALLY a forum, I can read, I can comment, it's all up to me. You can tell me YOU THINK I'm an ass, but saying "im right u wrong yada" will make the fall much harder when your horse hit reality.
    I've read every single thing you wrote, just like I thought about what tomato said, corrected myself where I realized I was an ass and tried to see, if clarifying myself we'd have a closer or more distant view of the aspect. Some people DO LIKE to discuss, and I'm one of them, if you pay attention, I rarely swear on that cases neither I try to ad hominem.

    You're remembering me of a youger version of myself that didn't know when splitting was kicking in, so I'll refrain from dragging this, but you'll be happier if you understand that a comment section in a SMUT BL is hardly the place for safe rant about being in the ACE spectrum.

    zyzell August 24, 2024 5:34 pm
    First, I seldom use the word "normal", since to me, whats abnormal is more like a crime or simptoms of a disease.I do like the word "common", tho. You're not common and believe you or not, my borderline-autisti... Girdyn

    rather than a basic need (should not be called this at all) then it's more appropriate to call it, as you said, a biological need. our biological "goal", as we've concluded it to be, is reproduction, however that's where we differ from animals.

    humans differentiated their species the moment they created civilisation, with behavioural and societal rules to ensure civilised coexistence, cultivated their minds and were given the ability to utilise logic, nous (basically created more purposes to live and more possibilities to explore rather than solely catering to our survival needs). nowadays, beyond the stereotypical binds and patriarchal society, we are able to distinguish our own goal and not limit ourselves to the biological one. in this sense, i strongly disagree that sex inevitably comes after satisfying our needs for temporary survival.

    now that we've grown to be more educated regarding this, we now choose whether we want it or not, and are in a position to regulate our libido when it goes out of control (referring mostly to males here). just because it is referred to as an instinctive tendency doesn't mean it is our basic need (this term also connotates 'mandatory'), as we are now well in control of this and aware we don't really need it.

    so sex is normal, but by no means necessary (biologically it is considered necessary but fulfilling the 'biologic role' isn't). and i agree that it is absolutely appalling that sex has been glorified and seen as a power game, enjoyed as a momentary delight (ηδονή). i'd argue that excessive sex is common yet abnormal.

    and it'd really be a shame to compare and intertwine your humane nature with that of an animal the intelligence of which are light years behind ours.

    tomato呀呀 August 24, 2024 5:49 pm
    A disaster is a type crisis about survival, first you need to survive. But once people can walk and talk, they'll be back to sex, that's a given. Even lizards (that mostly hate sex) will mate anyway, it's just ... Girdyn

    lizards IJBOL anything after that word is just funny, like i ain’t even mad at that shit your spewed cause it’s just you barking at an empty parking lot in the middle of the night

    Girdyn August 24, 2024 6:06 pm

    Guys i'll be quitting this topic cuz just had the 3rd worst day of my life and I wont remember this when I recover. Thanks for the attention and sharing your unique experiences. Stay safe, stay well.

    joonphany September 1, 2024 5:13 am
    Guys i'll be quitting this topic cuz just had the 3rd worst day of my life and I wont remember this when I recover. Thanks for the attention and sharing your unique experiences. Stay safe, stay well. Girdyn

    hi, i read all the comments and i wanted to say that i was at first caught of guard by the comment you first posted but after the others i understand your pov and yours thougts. don’t worry (idk if you was really worried ahah) but i find your statement and comments really interesting. im sorry that the others have been so defensive but i can’t blame them neither can’t understand them because i don’t know them. but i really enjoyed your comments, i don’t know if your going to see this since it’s been a while but i hope you do so you can know that no harm taken! thank you for your comments, really it’s was sooo interesting and educating :)

    joonphany September 1, 2024 5:14 am
    Yes! It kinda bothers me that love and sex and so intertwined. You can love someone and not want to have sex with them. You can also not love someone and want to have sex with them.It’s complicated.A long tim... Nobody

    thank you for the recommandations im going to see if i can find it in book store!!

    joonphany September 1, 2024 5:18 am
    i just realise from this comment that i’m asexual. i’ve had feelings for someone but i never actually feel the need to have sex with them or more like, i don’t mind not doing it. i thought i was the weird... tomato呀呀

    sexuality is a very large spectra so you can’t really know how you feel exactly. like, i say im asexual because it’s the thing that is the most likely myself but who knows? one day i would read a comment too about someone who feel the same way i do and be like « omg, it’s exactly how i feel! » thank you for your comment, im happy that you don’t feel alone anymore (if i get that right im not really good with english althougt i try ahah) and that you can identify to someone/something :)

joonphany August 18, 2024 1:08 am

i love the fact that we all agreed that ML will be the first to fall for MC! im so ready for s2 but i just can’t help myself to think that they were already fuck buddies so it’s not a really new development. also i LOVE the MC, please be all the MC like him because he’s so new and great, i really enjoy that story for him!

joonphany August 18, 2024 12:52 am

ok so basically fushiguro wants to live just to see itadori?? so gay

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