1) Living your life for someone else will only leave you feeling empty and without purpose when they are gone
2) Always others first, especially those who place themselves first will only make you miserable in the long run
(1-2 does not apply to your children)
3) Holding your tongue because you are afraid to hurt others will need up hurting you
why are so many people hating on the sensei? The editor agreed to be a model for him for his book while knowing the kind of book he is writing. They are role playing and he is trying to get an honest reaction from him. Plus it's not like they are dating.
Agree
AMEN, preach
You gotta be sort of blind to not see that he's a manipulative piece of shit lmao.
I think we all know the sensei is manipulative, but who cares- some people like the manipulative, coning type. The editor knows who he is getting in a 'bed' with and accept it. Both of their kinks are well match and they accept each other for who they really are. I don't see a problem with that. It would be another thing if the editor didn't find pleasure in the part in plays or is being force.
See, my biggest issue lies with what happened in ch 2. Yeah, uke agreed to roleplay to help seme with his work. But seme terrified him by doing something that uke never consented to doing, and brought back a trauma that's haunted him for years, showing no remorse at all whatsoever--really, the exact opposite--about how distraught uke truly was. That wasn't sadism, that was just plain dickish
I ship Myung X Jun. Jun married Myung. Loved him enough to turn into a tyrant after his death. Loved him to his own death. And they promise each other that they will love each other regardless of whatever world they are in. Jun falling for shiwoo doesn't feel right to me with all that in mind. Jun falling for Shiwoo feels like a betrayal to Myung. Also at the rate that he is falling for Shiwoo makes me question his feeling or the dept of feelings for Myung and when i question that the story starts to fall apart. I am continue this for two main reason. I hate leaving books unfinished but most important; I am really hoping that Shiwoo is truly Myung reincarnation and that he will regain his memory of their past life (without the memory he might as well be a different person a since their personality are different anyway)
This is just opinion. I know some might disagree.
You do have a point. I'm fine with Shiwoo not being Myung though only because I love some conflict and drama. Hahaha! Imagine the mess that's about to come!
Still, I'm hoping that Shiwoo and Myung are the 'same.' I need more happy endings.
I can see where you are coming from.I also feel uneasy about this manhwa (I've talked about this with my past topics here) but I don't want to assume things for now. Although I'm 99% sure that Shiwoo is Myung's reincarnation because he has this feeling of "familiarity" when he met Jun and Jun falling for Shiwoo doesn't mean he is betraying Myung, in fact, it will only solidifies the foundation of his love for him, because his soul is able to recognise its mate even if the said mate has an entirely different personality (sans looks)
and let's give Jun a break, he has been through a lot. He lost his only love and was betrayed by the council. His only resolve to move forward was the letter left by his lover upon his disappearance, and the said letter contained the promise the kept Jun's sanity intact and hope, alive.
Then that promise came true. He was sent to another world and then found his someone that looked exactly like his lover and even had the same birthmark. Who wouldn't thought that that wasn't his lover? It's written all over the letter! lol
What made it harder for Jun was that, Shiwoo wasn't able to recognise him. It made Jun feel anxious, he was tormented at the thought of the possibility of Myung not existing anymore and at the same time feeling bad because he could sense something especial in Shiwoo but was forced to keep the feeling bottled up because he didn't want to make things more complicated e.g. Shiwoo thinking that he was just a replacement WHILE feeling guilty that he's betraying Myung.
Jun's position is so damn complicated, with all the things that happened to him plus intense feelings storming within him trying to break free, I'm quite surprised he didn't go insane yet ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I know that Myung and Shiwoo are the same person- That is the only wayi think the premise will work (Everlasting love that endures even through death and different world). Unless the author decides to go in a complete different there will be too many questions about Myung and the other world if Myung and Shiwoo are two different. My two cent is about the current situation where Jun now believes that Myung and Shiwoo are two different people but is still falling in love with Shiwoo and unwilling to leave him.
Well the story is about Jin and Shiwoo, afterall, not Jun and Myung. It'd be a stupid move for the author to keep their relationship stagnant and it would make the story a snoozefest if there is no progress with their relationship. Jun falling for Shiwoo is completely fine IMO because I think the moment he accepted that Shiwoo is not Myung is also the point where he accepted that Myung is GONE now. He wants to move on, he wants to give himself another chance of living life again, starting anew. And I think it's a wonderful thing to do. Myung wouldn't also want Jun to cage his heart forever and never open it again and let someone in to heal his heart.
and I also don't question Jun's love for Myung, he is afterall the reason why he ended up in such poor state, because of his love for him. But that doesn't mean he needs to constantly punish himself for not being able to save Myung or for opening his heart to someone that is not him, that is just unfair and cruel. Additionally, I think that it's moving that despite seeing Shiwoo and Myung as two completely different persons (and that just a hard thing to do considering the uncanny resemblance loool), his heart and soul can still recognise its mate even though Jun's mind is not aware of it--which bring us to my last point.
Jun's mind and heart/soul is in indefinite battle against each other since the start of the story. From the very beginning, he is constantly having a war with his inner desire and rationality, whether he should let go of Myung and set himself free from all the burden he's carrying (he just lost his Empire because of that love) or continue to look for the one he loved even though the circumstances dictates that it is a lost cause. Jun has been suffering for a very long time now, he's desperate to find peace and wants to stay in a place where he belongs, and those things happens to be in Shiwoo's arms. If I could, I would give him a virtual pat in the back for finally thinking about HIMSELF, because it's way long overdue.
I get where you are coming from and if it seemed that this manga was about moving on. Letting go of lost love than i will be all for that. It is better to move on than to pine over lost love that will never be but so far it seems that is not what the manga is about. I think the manga is similar to Cloud Atlas (the movie- haven't read the book yet), that a love so great is not lost, it can survive time travels and death (the soul never dies).
Reasons why i think that: 1) Myung himself said that if he dies he will not really be dead, he will be in another world. 2) Jun himself traveled to another world when he 'died' which proves that traveling to another world after 'death' is possible. 3) It would be a major coincident that in this world Shiwoo just happen to look like Myung with the same birth mark and profession. 4) Jun promise to find Myung in whatever world he ends up in.
The reason why i think it is a betrayal for Jun to fall for Shiwoo is because i am placing myself in Myung's shoe. If i loved someone so much and believed in reincarnation or traveling to another world I would want them to find me or at least make sure that i am truly dead or don't exist in the world they are before they move on. It seems that Jun moved on too quickly and didn't try hard enough to make sure if they are the same person or not.
Except Jun didn't move on too quickly, he's just trying too hard not to think of Myung every second, we don't want him to compare Shiwoo totung all the time now, do we? And c'mon, he was even willing to follow someone that looks like Myung (from the back view LOL). And really, how can Jun even make sure that Myung doesn't exist anymore or is already dead? Jun can only assume things (but he doesn't want to); and Shiwoo himself is the proof that he is dead, with his promise in that letter coming true combined with his likeness and birthmark, that is Myung in ANOTHER life. Remember Jun thinks that Shiwoo firmly believes that he is Myung, but it's Shiwoo's request not to compare them so Jun is trying his best not to. Plus, he didn't want to be unfair to Myung and think about him as a replacement as well. But that doesn't mean he wants to forget Myung all together. I could emphatise with both Shiwoo AND Jun, that's why I look at all the angles and understand the characters why they feel and do this and that.
Jun and Shiwoo's situation is really complicated, but this is why I love analysing their character; they are not boring, they are not one-dimensional. They are extremely vulnerable (especially Jun), their resolve could be shaken, they could give in to temptations. And those are the things that make them "more human", which is what mainly draws me into this manhwa. Although it's kind of frustrating sometimes I must admit, but here I am, eagerly waiting for more chapters to come ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Is there is statement or comment about 'African are savage' or similar comment in this manga? I don't remember reading such a statement but some Facebook comments related to this manga indicates that such a comment exist in this manga. As none of the characters are black or African i can't imagine why such a comment would be made.
Yeah itsure on page 10 or 11 in the first chapter. But I don't mind I am savage but in the good way lol
thanks. Okay i read the 2 pages before and after and i have to say i completely understand why some are mad on Facebook. That comment seems completely out of left field and has absolutely nothing to do with the manga. The comment itself wouldn't bother me if it had anything to do with the manga. I know people actually used to believe that and doctors provided 'proof' that Africans were savages to justify slavery when some started viewing slavery as immoral.
I still like the manga but i don't think i will be able to think of it the same way.
You misunderstood this page completely. It's not like the author or character believes so, it's just one of the stereotypes in the society. The whole about this page is to show how people stereotype groups of people (omegas as well).
Wtf, why no one is bitching about the statement on unmarried people? Or do you agree that they are losers?
Unmarried people are not losers.
B type people are not self centered.
Africans are not savages.
Omegas are not worthless breeding mares.
This is one of the main points - no matter what society thinks stereotypes are wrong.
Thank you for explaining. I feel alot better about that statement now. Thank you very much.
I knew the glasses guy wasn't so innocent and knew what was going on but played along for the fun.
To all those that were feeling sorry for him, thinking that he was a victim can suck it.
Logically, i get it but i guess i refuse to accept it because it doesn't make any sense to me why people will care about another person sexuality or why some fear coming out. Don't we all know that sexuality is fluid- so far i haven't been sexually or romantically interested in another female but i can't imagine losing friends, liking myself less or caring about what others (strangers) might say about my sexuality if i fall in love with a woman later on in life. I have heard the hateful things people have said about gays, watch the news and heard about friends personal experience with hateful people so i am not naive to the hate but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't really know how i feel about the nurse, i am conflicted. I tend to flavor characters with sadistic or assholish personality but something feels wrong about what he did to the kid. He drugged the kid. he knew the kid had a kind of an innocent love for him. Made the kid watch him have sex with someone else. Smiled at the kid when he saw him heart broken and in pain. The nurse doesn't seem like a sexual sadist to me (which is fucking hot) but just twisted as fuck. if anything he has a personality disorder- There is nothing cool about purposefully inflicting pain on someone who has done you no harm, haven't shown you any indication that they like pain (in whichever form-physical or psychology) just for your enjoyment- That's a psycho right there not just an asshole.
side note:
I hope the manga doesn't go in the direction i thing it is going- i will lose respect for the kid if it does.
I am a bit disappointed that jun decided to stay with shiwoo. The way i see it is that he is betraying myung (yes, i know that shiwoo is myung but he doesn't know that). Something doesn't ring true to me, if jun was so in love with myung that after he 'died' he turned into a tyrant and he was still in love with him when he 'died' how could he decide to stay with someone that he no longer beliefs is myung? If only their looks are the same doesn't that mean jun is superficial?
After reading the first part i can't wait for part 2- (i just have to wait 4 long months- if the publishing date is correct). I wonder what the story line will be now that they have decided the course of action they will be taking. I hope their family butt out.