You guys are mixing everything up. As a novel reader, let me tell you some stuff so you guys don't completely think ML is just a trash asshole
Yes, ML in his 1st life was an asshole and a red flag but NOT a black flag. All he did was neglect MC and imprisoned him, causing the MC to suffer with lonliness and other mental illness (also bc of this family). He felt like he had no one and he was also experiencing nighmares because ML's brother raped him. Our ML did NOT rape our MC. It was ML's brother. But because of his sleepless nights and ML neglecting him even on his ruts, this caused him to unable to distinguish on who raped him and MC thought ML did. And also MC was pregnant with ML's child when he killed himself which is why ML didn't want any kids in this life time. I do not condone ML's actions but this manhwa has a lot plot twits so don't just suddenly jump to conclusions because what you think might be true, won't be.
I suggest you read https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3543032/home/ posts because it is more detailed and I don't feel like writing any more spoilers so the manhwa readers can enjoy this more. The reason why I commented this, is bc people are attacking the ML and it's making my blood boil lmao
You literally just said this man psychologically abused and kidnapped him but he’s not SO bad? Like cmon how do you not see how you sound.
Where do you read the novel??
There is a reason why the MC got neglected. I’m pretty sure I added it in the spoilers.
You can say the first round of neglect is because the MC fked up. Like badly *facepalm.
The second round of neglect is because something happened. I won’t say anymore, it’s on the bottom near my post.
He did r@ped him multiple times and the last one was after his brother r@ped Sejin.
I do agree that the ML is not complete trash though. I read the novel so I can say with certainty.
Yuuuuhhhh the MC efff-up real bad in the first timeline. Ido loves him even before everything got messed up. If the MC only told the truth and gave Ido the reason that he wanted Ido would have forgiven him. But the second reason why he got neglected, we really can’t blame the MC for that. He has been through and I’m sure the last thing he wanted was to explain to Ido when he even thought that the MC was gifted to his brother.
Yessss! I agree with your statement wholeheartedly!!
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I said that I do not condone with his actions...I commented that because he is not AS BAD AS people made him to be and I mentioned that in a few of my sentences. Have some reading comprehension
Oh thank you so much for explaining more. I thought he was having nightmares about ML being like that because of his brother. Maybe I missed a few chapters because I read the novel on a choppy website but still, thanks for adding another information
That’s ok, I got the korean novel one and was kind of lucky that my phone can automatically translate other languages. The novel is very satisfying and worth reading I must say. But it may not be for those who are heart lighted because this one is kind of dark. It tackles more on the PTSD and depression.
He really is not bad. Though I don’t agree that anyone in particular deserves to be treated that way but both are in the wrong in the 1st timeline. The MC was too afraid to be abandoned that he got blinded by his want to be acknowledged by his father that he didn’t trust Ido. Ido on the other hand was too blinded by his rage and love because he thought that Sejin never really loved him.
Ido got the punishment for what he did and is paying it till the end of the novel even after Sejin forgave him.
I dropped the novel like thrice because my stomach couldn't handle it and sometimes skip it when it's too sickening so that probably also casued me to miss some important lines. Still, it's well written about depression and lonliness so I left a 5 stars
"All he did was treat the mc like shit on the bottom of his shoe"- yeah cus neglect,rape and imprisonment is no biggie
Well one of the reason why he was locked up in the house in the 1st timeline is because he has a case. His father framed him for an embezzlement and tax evasion case. He doesn’t really have a place to go so even after the ML got angry and start abusing him he didn’t let him out, it was like some sort of protection in a sense but yeah. 1st timeline was a mess and full of misunderstanding. The ML felt his love was betrayed thus he start becoming abusive.
Do you not get my point? Go read the novel and tell me if he can be compared to his brother. Plus, at least ML had his reasons for doing so. But of course,those reasons were just misunderstandings unlike his brother who tortured MC for no reason. And to be honest, I would quite literally ignore MC too because he betrayed ML?
Yuh totally the ML’s brother is a total trash! Even from the start he has total hots for the MC. That’s why in the second timeline he didn’t invite him.
Thank you for understanding my words. I'm not even saying I support his actions or anything. All I'm trying to point out is that he's not as bad as his brother and that people should stop comparing our ML to that black flag.
He abused him ..? I'm not sure abuse can be considered a misunderstanding ☹
I'm not comparing him to his brother... they're both kinda trash in their own abusive ways
He neglected him because he felt betrayed by some stuff which I’m not going to point out since those are major spoilers
And that’s exactly what I was saying. “He’s a red flag but not a black flag like his brother.”
The tone in which you implied was like I excused his abusive behaviors and forgave him.
And I was comparing the ML to his brother and remarked that “All he did was...,” implying that he is significantly better than his brother, which, as you can clearly see, did not include even the slightest suggestion of excusing his behavior.
It is kind of hard to explain without spoiling everything but yuh it was all just a misunderstanding. The reason why the ML became abusive in the 1st timeline was not because of the fact that the MC stole the program from him but more on because he thought that the MC didn’t love him and he betrayed his feelings for him, that’s the first misunderstanding and the second one is because he thought that his brother and his husband had an affair which fuels by the fact that the MC instead of clearing it he just provoked the ML about it (not that I’m blaming the MC, like I said the 1st timeline was a hot mess of misunderstandings.)
I’m not depending the shitty behavior of the ML in the past but anyone who would have thought that their spouse slept with another person would see red in that situation right? Even in the country where I live, it is written in law here that if an spouse caught his/her spouse in the act of sexual intercourse and in the event where he/she had inflicted both the spouse and the mistress serious physical harm or happen to kill them then the perpetrator will not be charged with any case. Well it is in the country where I live.
People tend not to think too rationally when they see red.
I haven't read this manhwa and will probably never read this. I can handle gore and other abusive manhwas because yk not everything about life is rainbows and sunshines but this one is just too much for me. I get weak stomach just by looking at the pictures. This is another manhwa that made me so weak with just the pics after "No reason"
I would probably puke out if I read those two in one sitting bc of how miserable they are...
wait so the ML knows about his identity first? I was told that it was our MC who found out first lol
Nah whoever told you probably trolled, ml ends up knowing for a while and mc is clueless for a time until ji9star begs neuta who is really hesitant to meet irl iirc
looking back at first few chapters, stone rlly fell hard for Yanzi that he lost his tough guy personality around him
aye nah idk about the MC but now I have trauma associated with windows
that best friend is NOT a top. He looks like a twink. I wouldnt be surprised if he rejected MC bc he couldnt top bruh
ugly ass mf
Not to be mean but "twinks" absolutely can top, a body type does not dictate what position you like/can do in bed lol!
In this context, my main focus isn't him looking like a twink, it's more of an extra comment that I felt the need to add to. His face just doesn't look like he tops but I know he does because he's straight
Once again... no matter how shitty his personality is his face won't dictate what he does in bed, same for his sexuality to be honest there's plenty of straight men in BL becoming bottoms ahahahah, in this particular setting it seems the MC *wants* to bottom so his romantic/sexual options if there are more later on will probably all be tops regardless of how they look & act
I understand the frustration because the "best friend" is a real piece of shit but comments like these can appear a bit rude when it's so focused on gay characteristics rather than just calling him an ugly bitch
Once again...
To clarify, my previous remark was intended as a light-hearted observation based on the statistical tendency that approximately 80% of the time, individuals who fit the "twink" stereotype are perceived as bottoms. I am fully aware that muscular men can also be bottoms and twinks can be tops. My comment was merely reflecting this general statistic.
I believe that our perspectives would be consistent if he were a real person, as such a remark would be equivalent to sexual harassment. However, it was merely a light-hearted comment about a fictional character, expressed in a moment of anger as a means of alleviating frustration.
I understand that my comment may have seemed rude, but it is important to recognize that the character in question is fictional, originating from an unfinished manhwa. We possess only about 5% of the information regarding this character's personality and motivations. Consequently, I recommend refraining from taking my sarcastic comment too seriously.
I appreciate your viewpoint, and I will certainly bear it in mind. Nonetheless, I wish to emphasize that my remark was intended as a stereotypical joke, and I hope you do not interpret it too seriously.
love this bc it's realistic and not like SOME manhwas where the MC is just cluelessly dumb and forgive and forget in just 2 chapters
all those dislikes of comments of "I hope they end up tgh" are Mindo from all his alt accounts
idk whether his name is Mindo or Mido bc diff translations show diff names
why are some pretty men such bitches
Fr using that face card to manipulate, mansplain, and manslaughter
Reread this like 4 times already and lemme yall what. I wrote a short horror story exactly like this plot but instead the ML was a bride who got killed by her husband thousands of years ago, for the assignment and I got 20/20