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Both knees to reassure he wont do anything sketchy no more

AGREED

it probably wont be considering how close they are and the realizations the mcs have of who they are. its a very realistic story, always a fave

But Shii told Tamaki that all he has to say is that there is “no hope” but Tamaki didn’t want to say it, so doesn’t that mean that he’s unsure of his feelings for Shii and that he’s willing to date for a year because deep down he might want to see if there is anything there. Shii gave him plenty of outs so I don’t think it’s direct manipulation. Give them a chance Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

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Imo I think it's because tamaki values the platonic friendship they have and he's afraid if he says no directly, their friendship will end.

It's complicated because tamaki is a victim of emotional abuse from his mom and he doesn't realize it yet. Same can be said about shii so far. Shii doesn't know what tamaki has been through even though they're close.

So while Tamaki is confused and trying to figure it out, he's also getting pressure from Shii. I'm just like.. let him breathe so he can figure it out on his own pace??? Tamaki's thoughts and feelings are just as important as Shii's is. I hope this conflict resolves smoothly and they can see eye to eye during that one year. I love angst and drama but also make it wholesome yknow?


Oh and it is very much so manipulation even if Shii doesn't see it as such. Consciously or unconsciously manipulation is still manipulation and one isn't better than the other for those on the receiving end.

I’m agree with the latest comment

Shii was very straightforward with his feelings. It can be seen as a brave act or a forceful act; id say it's both.

Brave because he didnt stay passive, he actually tackled the situation which many unrequited love stories dont do often ("neglect to love" or "jealousy to love" types of scenarios r more common). Therefore, his straightforward approach can be seen as admirable in a way.
Forceful because his passion made him somewhat blind and neglectful on carefully considering Tamaki's feelings. As you've said, he made a somewhat-manipulative move that made it difficult to say no to.
Im talking about these two because from what I see, Shii is actually around the borderline of it, but it leans a bit more towards the forceful side since he isn't moderate about his approach. So yea, he isnt tooo bad???

Tamaki on the other hand, as a viewer, we can clearly see that there is something wrong with him; as you've said, emotional abuse. However, he doesnt appear that way, he looks and acts normally on everyday stuff; even he himself thinks that his reasonings r normal.

If it doesnt appear that something is wrong, both from inside and outside perspectives, then it is very difficult to notice that something is wrong since Tamaki appears to be normal.
Shii is very unreliable to notice since he is too blinded in his romantic pursuit, and Tamaki doesnt talk much about his family affairs with anyone else. Therefore, the only way for both of them to really notice is if there is a trigger; and Shii's forceful act is the solution.
Once both of them comes close to the problem (with intimacy/sexual act), that is when they would be able to tackle the problem. That is when one of them will finally notice that something doesnt feel right; or at least it will cause Tamaki to act in a way where Shii would finally notice that he has a problem.

I am not saying that Shii is totally right or anything for acting this way; I actually hate his forceful side too. However, it is needed for the story development and Tamaki's cure(?) for his trauma(?). It might not be the best approach, but since Tamaki isnt open and since Shii isnt willing to listen/observe, this lack of communication doesnt help at all. Therefore, the roundabout way of "helping" Tamaki is through exposure, and Shii's behaviour lines up with this approach rather well.

Basically, Shii is kind of indirectly helping Tamaki solve his problem by being forceful (exposure therapy???); so yea, in a way, Shii is actually saving Tamaki (not the best approach ofc, but that's what we got); if Shii wasn't brave enough to step forward, Tamaki would've forever been unable to really stay in a relationship due to "trauma". So yea, blame the lack of communication (as usual...) ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Im sorry for rambling and making u read all that. If u still want to uhh drop this later on, then alright then :< uhh... I just wanted to share my thoughts (unlucky for u since u got a rambling commenter?? ^^") uhh... have a nice day/night tho?

Yes, I agree