Jechk July 30, 2024 10:52 am

i'm still on chapter 6/haven't read all the chapters yet but i've read spoilers bc i'm really reallyyyy curious, and i hope MC hates the ML and the brother after he finds out. i just... i keep stopping bc the assault portrayed on this manhwa, for once, is not romanticized, so yknow, its not as digest-able as other manhwas and mangas (been a reader of BL since 2012 and SA is a staple in the genre, esp early mangas).

i dont fcking care if ML is redeeming himself in this timeline, there's no excuse for . i actually would prefer if they part ways in the end but i know that wont happen so i want at the very least, MC hating ML, that arc being very satisfying.

theres this thing w regressed shoujo manhwas where should the ML be forgiven for treating MC bad in the first timeline bc time turned back and essentially, what ML did in the first life didnt actually happen. but in this case, the events are on MC's memories, so that means ML's actions DID happen and made its mark to MC, so idk, ML should be getting Abandoned Empress ML treatment.

    floofo July 30, 2024 9:42 pm

    wait so what ur saying is that there is basically a supernatural element to this? and that the ml did r4pe the mc in their "past life" and is trying to make up for it??? if that's case i agree with you inevitably the mc will find out and i hope we dont get that shitty "happy ending/ forgiveness" plot

    Jechk July 30, 2024 11:30 pm
    wait so what ur saying is that there is basically a supernatural element to this? and that the ml did r4pe the mc in their "past life" and is trying to make up for it??? if that's case i agree with you inevitab... floofo

    omg did i just spoil u accidentally? i'm pretty sure when i posted this comment, i checked the spoiler box (T-T). but yes, thats what all the spoilers said basically

    floofo July 31, 2024 10:33 am
    omg did i just spoil u accidentally? i'm pretty sure when i posted this comment, i checked the spoiler box (T-T). but yes, thats what all the spoilers said basically Jechk

    nono i willingly checked what u said dont worry lol i was looking for spoilers lol

Jechk July 12, 2024 2:17 pm

that first love is so infuriating. saying that duke adler didnt come knowing it would hurt her???? and u were just apologizing mere seconds ago. nah get the fuck out

    Jechk July 12, 2024 2:20 pm

    worse he was saying "let me repay u for saving me".... this is how u chose to repay her??? humiliate her again in front of these ppl by pointing out the fact that her fiance didnt come???

    Applecreampied July 13, 2024 8:30 am

    Even the nobles around them who hated her were like “yikes that’s too far”

Jechk July 2, 2024 4:05 pm

liked it but no explanations for mc's teleportation power? also i dont think i skipped a chapter, but what happened to that guy that was hitting on mc bc he was going to inherit everything? i dont think the guy that kidnapped ml was also shown, and that whole thing of making him fall was wrapped up too quickly when he was kinda built up to be this big boss the main characters have to face (and everything after that are just mini conflicts). i feel like author forgot what they envisioned the story to be at first. backstory focused mainly on ml and then they just forgot mc.

Jechk July 1, 2024 4:07 pm

i just have this feeling that its not actually love, just a stockholm syndrome typa thing, and i say that because seme wore down uke, uke even says that when he was waiting for a month about the guide switch.

    ayfct July 11, 2024 7:01 pm

    He literally liked him since they were teens... It's a misunderstanding trope, not very well done but still.

Jechk July 1, 2024 4:07 am

i dont understand why kaede cant comprehend azusa's insecurity. like bro, cmon, its fated mates we're talking about, thats a really big deal. and i dont like any of the characters, but i agree w azusa that kaede shouldve been more firm w rejecting hikaru, especially since that homewrecker wannabe keeps on being persistent (even at their first meet). also, am i the only one who thinks kaede and azusa's relationship would be nothing if azusa gives up on it? azusa seems to be the only one making the effort, while kaede just seems like he's dragged along. i kinda wanna see a chapter where azusa meets his fated mate and is wavering, and then kaede's the insecure one this time and finally steps up.

Jechk June 26, 2024 9:46 am

i cant believe how much i love this story. and i adore jaeho and jiyoon . bc the side stories are not yet uploaded, that news report is satisfying AF. i hope hell comes down for that trash and cheating ex, and the guiding chief. i was glad when jiyoon beat up that ex (another satisying moment).

i hope the guiding chief gets fired AND punished; how thats going to happen, idk. whatever his consequences may be, i hope the author portrays it IN DETAIL. not like just one sentence in passing.

esper chief needs to get promoted fr . like, imagine being in a management position where relationship dynamics between two people (espers and guides) is such a huge factor and just forcing things anyway. even in (real) normal world, good managers and leaders take into account relationship dynamics between their team members. it comes with the job. as much as u want to sanitize things into purely work, u cant. people are not robots. guidance chief must just be good at office politics to get to his position without realizing that truth.

i still dont understand the whole thing w the experiment tho. like, how does kim kamin? kaemin? anyway, that cheater ex... how does the experiment factor in him "abandoning" jaeho? also, how did it get continued like that when theres so much money being poured in it (as they said) but the results are always considered as fail?

oh! and i didnt understand the whole thing w the cheater ex still asking jaeho to imprint w him despite the failed experiment? so i couldnt really sympathize w jaeho's anger. i thought it was sus in the first place. he portrayed such confidence in his experiment outside, yet he was still asking to imprint???? when apparently it shouldnt matter anymore according to him bc the experiment was gonna be a success????

AND WHO'S PROVIDING UPDATES TO JIYOON ABT JAEHO'S MOVES. even knew the contents of what he met w the guiding chief and everything.

i need the side stories those are not side stories thise remaining chapters are still needed to close several plot points raised in the story

Jechk June 19, 2024 3:57 pm

y'all, why is mc playing the game again? was it ever explained?

    Ruki July 6, 2024 4:46 am

    Yes ,basically the system thinks eros and mc are in love and wants to check if mc is truly in love with eros, by making the mc go to the first game again to see if mc will betray eros. That's why it's called love tribulation ie love test

Jechk June 15, 2024 5:47 pm

i'm... uneasy about hyesung, in the context of this happy family at least. look, there's no doubt that he was raped, and even though its questionable that the author wrote their love story in the way the events followed, i (at the same time) appreciate my uneasiness about hyesung. over a hundred chapters and i'm still not convinced hyesung loves dojin, which is throwing me in a loop because thats usually not how these type of stories go lol. this manhwa seems to be treading a fine line between trying to be realistic or setting the story in the normal bl environment where rape is forgettable and forgiveable... like, it can't decide where it wants to be and wants the best of both worlds so the whole time i was reading, i didn't know what lens to read it in, if that makes sense.

but like i said, i appreciate my uneasiness about hyesung not really being in love w dojin. in some way, to me, it feels like a consequence of the earlier events of their story, especially of the rape. some type of punishment to dojin that he will never truly have his heart (if we're going by the realistic route, i feel like dojin could feel that but is just ignoring it; he has hyesung by his side anyway, and they have a kid too).

to explain why i was uneasy, let's not forget that hyesung was looking for a RICH omega, which means he was prepared to live a life without love if it means he gets to be comfortable. it's just that he nabbed a rich alpha, and the bonding aside, being around dojin gives him the family (both extended and nuclear) he has ever wanted. so what more could he ask for?

or maybe hyesung is really in love and i just dont understand his character. i just really reaaally doubt it because the lack of interest from him that dojin could feel just seems impossible if hyesung was truly in love, not even to the degree of love dojin has for him. notice how hyesung only gets worked up when it threatens him or puts him in an uncomfy situation, like the last arc of horniness, and the affair rumor arc.

so, thats just it for me. might have to cleanse myself w fluffy, wholesome yaoi after this. as much as i enjoyed the art (and the author has such smooth storytelling abilities), finishing it just leaves a bitter aftertaste and this feeling of uncertainty continues (bc of hyesung), which again is diff bc usually in the end, the author got me convinced uke is in love w seme.

    Bookworm June 18, 2024 4:53 am

    You worded this so well. I tried to like this story bc of how popular it is, but I just couldn’t. I finished it even though I wanted to stop many times, I thought it would come together at the end, but the relationship still felt off for some reason? I don’t understand the hype at all, and I really wanted to like this story. The second couple was nice though! And the baby is really cute!

    Jechk June 19, 2024 4:19 am
    You worded this so well. I tried to like this story bc of how popular it is, but I just couldn’t. I finished it even though I wanted to stop many times, I thought it would come together at the end, but the re... Bookworm

    thank you ^^. i agree about the baby and the 2nd couple! i actually wish 2nd couple has its own manhwa or a spin-off at least. even if its just like around 10 chapters, i'd devour it. i love the one sided pining from the older brother (i love stories w one sided pining premises in general) and i wish the author could go into more detail about it, esp when him and the beta were younger.

    i kindaaa understand the hype. i observed that in general, if the seme is obsessive/loves more than the uke, yaoi/bl fans vibe w that. doesnt matter if the seme was violent or indifferent in the beginning, as long as there is certainty that later on he'd rather die than lose uke, fujoshis like that. i admit im also one of them, except i do want uke to reciprocate seme's love, even if uke is not as obsessive/possessive. i couldnt feel that in this one.

    to clarify, i dont think hyesung is a gold digger in the sense that society usually thinks about gold diggers. he's a tsundere, but definitely a kind and caring person. he's a tsundere, but not one in love. i think imma join the hype in this manhwa, but only bc its a nuanced manhwa (or rather, hyesung makes it a nuanced manhwa, which makes sense bc he's the mc). i can see how the hype misled u about the story though bc same haha.

    Jechk June 19, 2024 4:23 am
    You worded this so well. I tried to like this story bc of how popular it is, but I just couldn’t. I finished it even though I wanted to stop many times, I thought it would come together at the end, but the re... Bookworm

    i just now realized that we (along w others who felt the same way) might be right about hyesung not being in love bc of the title.

    Bookworm June 19, 2024 7:59 pm
    thank you ^^. i agree about the baby and the 2nd couple! i actually wish 2nd couple has its own manhwa or a spin-off at least. even if its just like around 10 chapters, i'd devour it. i love the one sided pinin... Jechk

    Wow, once again you worded this so well! I think I can kind of understand why people like it so much now too.

    Perhaps this wasn’t meant to be a an epic love story between both the uke and the seme. The seme was indeed horrible in the beginning, and more uke’s SHOULDNT be falling in love with the person that assaulted them. But yes I think I was misled in thinking that it would be like all the other stories I’ve read. And despite me not liking how the uke displays his emotions, he does indeed make the story more nuanced.

    Me personally I’m still not a fan, just because it is my preference to see love that is reciprocated. However I will cut this story some slack lol.

    yow July 3, 2024 8:47 pm

    WORDDDD, after I reread this manwha it took me so long to understand that hyesung is a very complex character which i understand because he never really grew up with a parental figure and had to live paycheck to paycheck which eventually grew his greed. I really wish tho they their relationship more development through talking and communicating rather than just being intimate, I believe he actually likes dojin just not in a expressive way or it can be he does but its barely ever shown (only time i genuinely seen him care was the scandal chapter) I just wish people would stop hating on him because his trauma is overlooked sometimes because of how he treats dojin

Jechk June 14, 2024 5:19 pm

SPOILER ON 2ND PARAGRAPH
a part of me *does* hope her mother sees sense and they reconcile, but a (larger) part of me hopes that her mother continues to get her pride the best of herself and tatiana becomes her karma (i feel like thats the direction the story is going for especially w making her mother greet her husband when the mother humiliated him years ago) in where tatiana becomes the instrument in which the mother has to apologize or bow her head down to the people she hurt. i mean, she used her daughters as tools to get herself power and wealth; im sure there are many more underhanded means she did just so she could get there.

and idc if the mother was secretly trying to treat her daughter's illness. why would u not disclose that to her, as well as tell her that that's one of the reasons why you were adamant on having her marry the duke? what was she thinking then when they cut each other off, was she just going to let her die? this js why the illness insertion seems like a last minute thing so that readers can soften up on mother, but at the same time it doesnt seem like it bc anne has said colds affect tiara more. like there were hints! but anywho, i hope the mother gets what she deserves, both good and bad.

    Ochako June 21, 2024 11:05 pm

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    Jechk June 23, 2024 4:40 am
    From the spoilers I have read,..........The mother keeps getting worse throughout the story. And doesn't see sense until the end I think. Ochako

    oof, thats sad. is there at least justice enacted on her? like, does she get punished for everything she did throughout the story?

Jechk June 13, 2024 3:04 pm

whatever anyone says, for me, the fault lies more on that glasses man than that short-haired girl. yall can say shes a hoe, but i feel like thats been clear from the start lol. that man however, is in a 10-year relationship, and yall can see he was genuinely falling for the temptation. i know him and his fiancee talked abt doing things for the money, but that hiding the note move would've sealed it for me bc why would you??? hopefully, she realizes that her fiance is the kind of man who could cheat on her in a heartbeat (even after they marry) as long as the temptation presents itself again.

i blame both short-haired girl and glasses man, but as there's no such thing as truly equal or fair in this world, i blame glasses man more (and frankly, side eye to those who blame the girly more; that man is an adult and again, in a 10-year relationship. he shouldnt be that easily swayed)

    MeLoL June 13, 2024 3:28 pm

    SPEAK ON ITTTT!!! (๑°ㅁ°๑)

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