yall, one thing i always notice in omegaverses is that the men are still compared to women and it just ruins the immersion for me. like this is a world where women and men can get pregnant so patriarchal sentiments shouldnt be reflected as much (for example saying things like, "your hole is like a "). i mean, i would understand in like pregnancy for instance if they compare men to women like women having more of an apt build for carrying a child, but not so much ya know? like, mc saying if this is how also women feel when theyre pregnant... i just think thats unnatural in the world of omegaverse bc BOTH men and women could do that. i know there's the case for betas but mc is an omega so i feel like his mindset on his capability of getting pregnant, he shouldve just taken it as something natural.
omegaverse manga editors need to do better fr
I think you're going around with the mindset "If it's not clearly for good intentions it's automatically malicious"
In Omegaverse male Omegas are still not built the same way women are if we're talking about hips. So when a male omega feels bad during pregnancy someone will say something like "even the people who are better suited to give birth to a big baby are feeling the same way as you"
It's like telling a new fitness enthusiast when they have muscles cramps and feel bad "Even professional athletes get muscles cramps"
Also I don't remember if it was mentioned in this manga but a lot of Omegaverse have the history of the alpha/omega traits being something new. So of course they'll again rely on non trait female humans as a guideline.
I definitely agree calling a males body parts is just unpleasant but I don't remember if this was the case in this manga.
All in all I hope you can relax a little and not nitpick every single sentence like they're meant to be a hate crime.
This manga is a really nice and positive read. Don't cast to the side 99.9 pages just to turn the whole piece into a hate crime because of one single sentence that irked you.
Also sometimes people are just stupid so:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
to clarify, i'm not turning this manga into a "hate crime", and I don't have the mindset that you speak of. I'm a writing major; I write stories in class and have been taught to critique others' (mine ofc is critiqued too). Especially in fictional stories, because it's made up, you have to watch out for the tiniest thing so that it aligns with the logic and rules of the world the author built. Not only that but you can say that I kind of minor in Linguistics (my univ's system is kinda complicated idk how to explain it), so every time I encounter a story with a made up world, I think of what sorts of mindsets or terms living in that kind of world would the people have, which is what I did in my original comment.
I made that comment based on how omegaverse stories appeal to me, which is that both men and women can get pregnant, and same sex love is justified through it because in the real world, that's essentially the argument people throw on the gay community: that their love is wrong because together they cant make a child. therefore, it didnt make sense to me that men are compared to women even in omegaverse stories, as I feel like there are numerous ways to say things like what mc said if they are living in that reality.
it didn't "irk" me; I just made an observation because as I said, it ruins the IMMERSION for me (although "ruin" is probably the word I shouldn't have used but rather "break" ), which personally, I think a fictional story shouldn't.
All in all I do agree with alpha and omega traits being changed with some of the stories on omegaverse, but I thought that's what the explanation pages are for and if not, its something the readers can pick up along the way, it's just in how the author would package it
I know what you mean. Anatomically it does makes sense to compare them (even women get compared to each other). But like in a society that beastmen exist, I can’t imagine how a pregnant man is somehow the oddity that needs to be focused on?
There’s also the fact that many of these writers have not considered how men would carry children (like how no one talks about periods) or the changes their bodies go though (many of them don’t ever get baby bumps). I think this is in part due to ignorance around pregnancy in general though
I also wonder why no one has done a plot that focuses on male omegas actually being protected, especially in countries with declining birth rates. Said countries will pay you to be procreate so I doubt they wouldn’t have protections and incentives accessible to omegas.
honestly i didnt even pay much thought to the coexistence of beastmen with humans because i have resigned the idea to myself that the primary target audience of mangas like these are to satisfy the desires of people part of the furry fandom, but i get what u meannn. idk if this is part of the oddities that you are thinking of, but again, like, the pregnancy itself of the man should be considered normal (bc alpha, beta, omega genders have long long been considered normal), but i was really looking for the reason why interracial couples were *kind of* looked down upon [uke i think mentioned that it was much more normal for beastmen to be with each other, and humans with other humans]. i thought the story was going to bring up problems on mixing of genetics, etc., even just to mention in passing, but they just likened it to conservative ethnicity preference, ex. Japanese preferring to be with other Japanese people.
For the pregnancy part, like you indicated, periods, I always thought that that was what the heat cycles were for. Omegaverse's version of menstruation were the heat cycles, although I do not know if women could still menstruate then get a heat cycle (though i imagine not, or both happen simultaneously). I agree on the ignorance around pregnancy, that it's not just sex, cravings, morning sickness, or baby bumps (that artists sometimes don't draw). there's no weight gain (including this one, he doesnt gain weight despite having a baby bump), no changing of the features (nose going big or "glowing up" bc of pregnancy), and these are just at the top of my head.
for your last point, i think the reason why no one's doing it is bc it's not really happening also? thats the reason i can come up with haha (although the more reason to manifest it in fiction i guess). like even in countries like south korea, or japan, preganancy-abled people (women) aren't even protected nor incentivized to get pregnant. like crimes among them are still continued with stalking, hidden cameras, sexual harrassments, and such, and omegas are similar to women in omegaverse mangas so........
The majority of pregnancies would be female, given the majority of the population are betas and alpha women can give birth too. This is why omega men are always special, but also face discrimination for somewhat losing their masculinity in the process.
i like this kind of trope of story, but everyone said there was a prequel so i read it in the middle of reading this one, and i'm so disappointed haha. how could the author make someone like him be the love interest in the main story? or set him up like that in the prequel? he's so hateable. im torn between finishing this bc like i said, i like this kind of trope, but also i dont wanna see the ml have his happy ending. probably i'd be able to accept if in this story, ml *visibly* suffers and is desperate, and while we can say he is, he's doing it in a cool, bravado way that it really doesnt feel like he is suffering.
also, why is he doing all this preparation stuff just now? chp 4 he said he realized had to make his butler his. how simple minded is he that he only thought of it that way sexually? had the galls to kidnap his butler and all but it didnt cross his mind to prepare or wrap things up in his family and business-wise so that they really can be together in the end? i thought that after kidnapping his butler, the story would be nearing its end bc he'd show him and everything that it's the right time for them to be together now, and his only problem was to win mc or have him be honest with him about his feelings. for a supposedly long-obsessed w mc ml, and supposedly perfect alpha to take over his family's business, he surprisingly falls flat.
Same, after how horribly he treated other people in the prequel I just have to hate him
i cant help but think that if he wasnt portrayed in an ml typa way or if the story actually cares about morals and decency and not just bending the world for the main characters, ml would be that black sheep of the fam who is *actually* creepy and is mainly and actively involved in illegal business because, as another comment said here, i agree that he thinks with his dick, but also arranging prostitution in highschool????
used to find these kinds of cliche relationship dynamics cute but now its just annoying . i hope the author fixes the relationship between the father and son as the story goes on
I thought I was the only one finding this very annoying. I literally skipped the whole chapter cause I couldn’t take it. Hopefully it changes soon and we get more exciting things to read than a dad/son fight mom/wife
right? like idk if its bc im older now but there's nothing cute anymore about a son and husband fighting each other for the mother. first and foremost, they're a family. it would do well for the child to be loved by the father too and if not then they should just divorce bc as it is rn, it seems like mc is a single mother . second, kinda childish for a grown man to be competing with a child. their braincells are literally on different maturity levels. third, i can't help but think of son as growing up to be a mama's boy and becoming a terrible husband to his future wife. fourth, this reeks of self insert . like wanting for two boys to fight over you, but then the author set both boys as literally family. maybe it would have read better if mc was the kind of character who admits she wants that but she's not so now for me, mc is coming off as a pick me with an angelic front.
Riiight like shits creepy as hell. Like let’s move on it’s not cute anymore. I’ll wait for it to marinate a bit then check it out later
if you think rape is an appropriate punishment for something then u need to do some self reflection that u might be an asshole or admit to yourself that you just can't grasp how horrible it is because it never is and should never be deemed appropriate for any situation AT ALL. there are a lot of ways punishment or revenge can be inflicted, but not through rape. and before anyone comments that this isnt that deep and that this is fiction, unchecked mindsets like that are how we normalize violence into this world. there are several instances in history that we are now struggling with today because back then, it just "ain't deep".
i cried a lot reading this, but by far the only bl i've read with a grovelling seme and a chasing arc that the uke didnt give in and returned to him (seme). i know uke was still yearning for him even in his final moments, but at least the asshole seme didnt know that, and at least uke passed away in the arms of someone else who treated him better. hope more manga/manhwa/manhuas on grovelling and chasing tropes end up this way, except the uke doesnt die haha.
i just realized that when seyeong came over to where yoona and heejae were drinking to get heejae bc he was drunk is that yoona might have recognized him as the netkama becaude she had a picture of his id
i want a twist in where the celestial beings actually have a hidden skill that makes them the *actual* most powerful race in the game but the game itself conceals it so no one knows and all the previous kings gave up too soon but mc found out hence why they're number 1. Like I know about mc's support skill but I guess I want something more to indicate he's a really good player of the game like how he figured out the situation in that other character's kingdom with his deduction skills and whatnot (i forgot the name, the one whose grand duke has posession powers). i feel like a hidden quality in the celestial beings would be great and justifiable, especially in a strategy game such as making your kingdom the strongest, because games like these usually give each of its races their own negatives and positives, and with the negative being great for the celestials (looking down on them hence other races taking advantage of them in a lot of ways), it would make sense for the positive to outweigh that and they just actually really needed a good king (which would justify the game's need for a king). but yknow, thats just me.
I agree with you. Usually there'll be some balance in the game or else the game just suck lol. Hopefully we get faster updates(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Damn, with a father (and mother, she's complicit but less involved than the father hence the parentheses) like that, the only time uke could *actually* live is when he/they die
does anyone here have spoilersss? i read this every now and then if an update comes out so i have broken knowledge/memories of this. what's ml's trump card? does he go back to his rich fam that essentially threw him away when they thought he was autistic? how does yoon's revenge go and is it satisfying (i really wanna see chairman kim fall). i love spoilers, if u have any, pls share
spoiler
Short answer: He died painfully.
So during the Board of Directors meeting, the people who sided with that geezer wanted to fire Yoon. They were celebrating their early victory till it was revealed that Yoon already bought the right to use the song that is crucial to the Dream project for 10 years and he had no intention to give them the right to use it. Unable to use the song meant that the project couldn't continue and the contract with the author specifically stated that the song was irreplaceable, if the production company tried to alter any part of it will result in an automatic contract termination. So a huge loss in this project for that geezer and his party because they invested so much into it, a foreseeable bankruptcy was in sight for them.
Then it was also revealed that Yoon was the largest shareholder of the company even without the shares he sold. He fired all of those BoD members who sided with geezer Kim. After kicking everyone out, he said to him that he knew that he was using a pacemaker and asked him what would happen if somehow it happened to malfunction. Then the last scene was Kim was agonizing in pain in his last moment.
omg thank you
i included heart emojis but they're not visible in my reply huhu but thank youuuu!
i love that the spoiler/chairman kim's downfall was because of something Yoon has put in the contract (although he does have tons of shares but like I love how detailed he is!). I was worried that he'll only win in the end because of his family with his grandpa now taking him back. Thank goodness it was by his own merit haha. Now I can enjoy their love story (and scene ( ° ʖ °) ) more bc of this!
Yeah, it'll probably take a while since next chapter is season finale so expect season 3 to be back around August but it'll be worth it when it was adapted.
Do u have the link for this?
The whole novel not in English was on Wattpad but unfortunately the editor took it down. :(