Hot take but I feel like jooin reacted like most people would when being faced with the choice between two people like bro was an over thinker with low self esteem who was in a toxic relationship like cut the man some slack. I think this story is so frustrating for people because jooin is just very human like people are complicated and don't always make good choices. I actually think it was a good choice to make jooin end up with cain instead of going back to Yahwi because even though he has changed he still at one point treated Jooin badly and he shouldn't be forgiven just because he changed. I would have like to see Jooin grow as a character on his own before getting with cain but we can't win them all ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
2024-01-13 06:16 marked
I can't believe I'm saying this but i actually like jooin here. He was always indecisive af but he knew what Cain needed. Cain needed to live this life as Cain and not a dog he was in the past life. Thanks to jooin, Cain has overcome the past he thought his entire identity was about. Good job jooin. And good for jooin too. Often times we see the MCs identity just being about who they end up with etc etc but jooin has emerged as someone who didn't tie his identity to any of the potential partners. Good for him and good for Cain and as much as I don't like yahwi I wish him well too. He behaved bad, day after day as a result of his trauma but that doesn't excuse his actions yet I hope he gets therapy and gets better. These last few chapters showed Jooin's growth way more than the entire story did and honestly I'm happy for him
2024-01-13 06:02 marked
As much as i too think this was dragged to hell and back, they're FINALLY having a healthy and proper communication. They're expressing what they need to say to each other. Even with the yawhi convo (which i believe is Jooin completely cutting things off with yawhi) Jooin's finally communicating what he needs to say in order to get where he neds to be as a person.
2024-01-12 21:45 marked
I actually agreed 100% with Jooin. I get why he wanted to see Cain again, and everything that he said was absolutely right. He does feel something for Cain but they aren't on the same level. Cain loves him deeply and Jooin can't feel the same. It really would be a toxic relationship if only one side is truly devoted. I still wanted they together but only if Jooin could love Cain the same way that he loves him. I just hope that at this point Jooin doesn't end up with Yahwi either
2024-01-12 21:29 marked
Yall realize that these characters are just really realistic right? People saying join is annoying, can’t make a decision, but that’s how any person would react in that situation. It started of smutty yeah but the plot is good it’s just more emotional now. The author is definitely thinking about a good ending that will give everyone what they need. It’s a great story tbh
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2024-01-12 21:14 marked
I was today years old when I found out that people really think Jooin committed infidelity... How when he was never in an actual relationship.
people are so funny. they read love triangles and then go around sl*tshaming the bottom whenever he's with one guy after being with the other. if you don't have the capacity to understand how love triangles are supposed to work, then it's better not to read them. jooin did nothing wrong, people are just bitter
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people are so funny. they read love triangles and then go around sl*tshaming the bottom whenever he's with one guy after being with the other. if you don't have the capacity to understand how love triangles are supposed to work, then it's better not to read them. jooin did nothing wrong, people are just bitter
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2024-01-12 21:13 marked
I never thought I'd post a comment under this because a lot of comments are also very negative. So many webtoons follow the exact same beats especially when it comes to love triangles. Weak willed MC is in love with toxic ML who just uses him. A second ML comes along who's nicer it seems like he is the obvious choice but MC will end up choosing 1st ML after he admits his faults. That's what I was expecting, it seemed to be following that destined track.
But no, every character made mistakes because they are young idiots who can’t communicate. And now they are addressing it. Jooin realizes that Yahwi took extreme advantage of him and needs to let me him go to heal from the trauma. Jooin also realizes he took advantage of Cain’s feelings while in a low place, but didn’t accept that he didn’t get a proper send off. Clear communication is something you don’t get to see in webtoons, and I think its addressed so well in here. I don’t think the story is dragging on, it’s something us something we haven’t seen before. As far as the conclusion…. There might be time skip and maybe after that there can be some reconciliation, I wouldn’t mind that because hey that literally actually happened after some breakups. But I’d be ok with an opened ended future for Jooin, I think a lot of people won’t like it though
But no, every character made mistakes because they are young idiots who can’t communicate. And now they are addressing it. Jooin realizes that Yahwi took extreme advantage of him and needs to let me him go to heal from the trauma. Jooin also realizes he took advantage of Cain’s feelings while in a low place, but didn’t accept that he didn’t get a proper send off. Clear communication is something you don’t get to see in webtoons, and I think its addressed so well in here. I don’t think the story is dragging on, it’s something us something we haven’t seen before. As far as the conclusion…. There might be time skip and maybe after that there can be some reconciliation, I wouldn’t mind that because hey that literally actually happened after some breakups. But I’d be ok with an opened ended future for Jooin, I think a lot of people won’t like it though
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Pretty realistic in a sense. Removing the supernatural side of it, the emotions, the back and forth, the drama is very realistic. How Jooin handled it was also pretty normal for someone going through a first love with low self-esteem who doesn't know what they want out of a relationship. Yawhi, too. He has to come to terms with himself in a lot of ways and sometimes the only way to do that is to lose something precious to you to realize that youneed to mature emotionally before you can even try to be with someone else.
I've been more "team everyone needs to spend some serious time learning about themselves" throughout this whole debacle. I still think Jooin needs to do some soul searching. It's great that he realizes that he's been so fickle and why, and that he finally realizes what he wants out of a relationship, what he's willing and not willing to compromise with. But now he needs to spend time getting comfortable with that information, learning to love himself and growing that backbone everyone needs to be happy. Cain, too, I think will benefit from some time away from Jooin to learn to be happy on his own and less emotionally dependent on Jooin, because that is not healthy.
I'm a little shocked this didn't take a darker turn, like most manhwa, but I'm glad it's more of a reality check than a drama check. It hits home more that way, I think.
I'm still not a huge fan of Cain, and I seriously think Jooin and Yahwi could work after a few years of growing up away from each other, but obviously Cain is the end here. Maybe it's the way this whole thing was written, but I still feel like Cain's backstory and the whole supernatural aspect doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It seems like the author had Cain's character for a separate story altogether but used it here when people started to hate Yahwi so much. Do I dislike Cain? Not at all. I just don't think his character plot fits everything else this story had going on. It's a major disconnect. And the way this whole thing was written does not make Cain seem like a main character or contender here. He always seemed like an afterthought, the underdog (no pun intended) that everyone dismisses, and the character brought in to stir things up only to fade away at some point. A side character, basically. While every character deserves a happy ending with their MC, I certainly don't feel like Cain's character earned it in a writing sense. (Not that he as a person doesn't, but just from an objective sense as a writer his character doesn't meet the criteria of the main focus end-all guy.) It's probably just the way this was set up, the way it was focused and the overall feel of the manwha. Cain just doesn't make sense in this story. Still like him. Hope he gets his happy end, but I wish his character had been used in a separate story completely outside of this universe.
I've been more "team everyone needs to spend some serious time learning about themselves" throughout this whole debacle. I still think Jooin needs to do some soul searching. It's great that he realizes that he's been so fickle and why, and that he finally realizes what he wants out of a relationship, what he's willing and not willing to compromise with. But now he needs to spend time getting comfortable with that information, learning to love himself and growing that backbone everyone needs to be happy. Cain, too, I think will benefit from some time away from Jooin to learn to be happy on his own and less emotionally dependent on Jooin, because that is not healthy.
I'm a little shocked this didn't take a darker turn, like most manhwa, but I'm glad it's more of a reality check than a drama check. It hits home more that way, I think.
I'm still not a huge fan of Cain, and I seriously think Jooin and Yahwi could work after a few years of growing up away from each other, but obviously Cain is the end here. Maybe it's the way this whole thing was written, but I still feel like Cain's backstory and the whole supernatural aspect doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It seems like the author had Cain's character for a separate story altogether but used it here when people started to hate Yahwi so much. Do I dislike Cain? Not at all. I just don't think his character plot fits everything else this story had going on. It's a major disconnect. And the way this whole thing was written does not make Cain seem like a main character or contender here. He always seemed like an afterthought, the underdog (no pun intended) that everyone dismisses, and the character brought in to stir things up only to fade away at some point. A side character, basically. While every character deserves a happy ending with their MC, I certainly don't feel like Cain's character earned it in a writing sense. (Not that he as a person doesn't, but just from an objective sense as a writer his character doesn't meet the criteria of the main focus end-all guy.) It's probably just the way this was set up, the way it was focused and the overall feel of the manwha. Cain just doesn't make sense in this story. Still like him. Hope he gets his happy end, but I wish his character had been used in a separate story completely outside of this universe.
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He's finally realizing cain has been there all along just wanting him. He's finally realizing how sincerely cain has cared for him compared to yahwi. He's finally coming to his senses. Why is that a bad thing? He's 'human' too. He's not perfect and he literally admitted that the reason he was so indecisive all this while is because he was insecure about his own self worth. He wasn't seeing them beyond his own view of himself. He's realizing his mistakes. It may feel late or rushed but trust me, irl feelings do work like that too sometimes
2024-01-05 15:09 marked
Idk why so many people are putting Yahwi and Cain in the same basket, Yahwi wasn't the "good guy" in his relationship with Jooin. Like if you wanna hate Jooin you do you, but stop acting as if he wronged Yahwi when Yahwi blew his chances on his own. Not saying Yahwi should rot in hell obviously, but him having a pretty design and a sad backstory doesn't erase how shitty he was with Jooin till Jooin finally grew a spine. So no, Yahwi doesn't "deserve better", he had something good, he just ruined it and now he faces the concequences.
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