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Jeez, Jooin not falling in love with Cain is the most crazy unrealistic thing. Literally the perfect man.

I was today years old when I found out that people really think Jooin committed infidelity... How when he was never in an actual relationship.

people are so funny. they read love triangles and then go around sl*tshaming the bottom whenever he's with one guy after being with the other. if you don't have the capacity to understand how love triangles are supposed to work, then it's better not to read them. jooin did nothing wrong, people are just bitter

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I never thought I'd post a comment under this because a lot of comments are also very negative. So many webtoons follow the exact same beats especially when it comes to love triangles. Weak willed MC is in love with toxic ML who just uses him. A second ML comes along who's nicer it seems like he is the obvious choice but MC will end up choosing 1st ML after he admits his faults. That's what I was expecting, it seemed to be following that destined track.

But no, every character made mistakes because they are young idiots who can’t communicate. And now they are addressing it. Jooin realizes that Yahwi took extreme advantage of him and needs to let me him go to heal from the trauma. Jooin also realizes he took advantage of Cain’s feelings while in a low place, but didn’t accept that he didn’t get a proper send off. Clear communication is something you don’t get to see in webtoons, and I think its addressed so well in here. I don’t think the story is dragging on, it’s something us something we haven’t seen before. As far as the conclusion…. There might be time skip and maybe after that there can be some reconciliation, I wouldn’t mind that because hey that literally actually happened after some breakups. But I’d be ok with an opened ended future for Jooin, I think a lot of people won’t like it though

Jooin ends up alone team! BTS did tell you to love yourself before anything else

Why are ppl suddenly hating cain for giving jooin actual kind words/ being "poetic" when even in the earlier chapters, jooin and cain has always been poetic w eachother? Jooin even compared cain to a spring rain. Why are you all mad that jooin is getting kind words from cain instead of being verbally abused by yahwi

Yahwi crying so hard lmaooooo guess what? Trauma is not a license to make someone miserable. Jooin leaving Yahwi is the best thing he did and him realizing that Cain had always treated him right is the redemption of this story. That's realistic so suck it up. LOL

That was beautifully written. I love how Cain and Jooin are actual soulmates, they're so perfect for each other. Also Cain is literally so sweet omg

people saying that he's choosing the 'dog' but forgetting that Cain's a human in the present like bro he just have the memory of their past. Also, Him ending things with Yahwi is a good step than giving Yahwi a chance to be with him just because he changed.

Pretty realistic in a sense. Removing the supernatural side of it, the emotions, the back and forth, the drama is very realistic. How Jooin handled it was also pretty normal for someone going through a first love with low self-esteem who doesn't know what they want out of a relationship. Yawhi, too. He has to come to terms with himself in a lot of ways and sometimes the only way to do that is to lose something precious to you to realize that youneed to mature emotionally before you can even try to be with someone else.
I've been more "team everyone needs to spend some serious time learning about themselves" throughout this whole debacle. I still think Jooin needs to do some soul searching. It's great that he realizes that he's been so fickle and why, and that he finally realizes what he wants out of a relationship, what he's willing and not willing to compromise with. But now he needs to spend time getting comfortable with that information, learning to love himself and growing that backbone everyone needs to be happy. Cain, too, I think will benefit from some time away from Jooin to learn to be happy on his own and less emotionally dependent on Jooin, because that is not healthy.
I'm a little shocked this didn't take a darker turn, like most manhwa, but I'm glad it's more of a reality check than a drama check. It hits home more that way, I think.
I'm still not a huge fan of Cain, and I seriously think Jooin and Yahwi could work after a few years of growing up away from each other, but obviously Cain is the end here. Maybe it's the way this whole thing was written, but I still feel like Cain's backstory and the whole supernatural aspect doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It seems like the author had Cain's character for a separate story altogether but used it here when people started to hate Yahwi so much. Do I dislike Cain? Not at all. I just don't think his character plot fits everything else this story had going on. It's a major disconnect. And the way this whole thing was written does not make Cain seem like a main character or contender here. He always seemed like an afterthought, the underdog (no pun intended) that everyone dismisses, and the character brought in to stir things up only to fade away at some point. A side character, basically. While every character deserves a happy ending with their MC, I certainly don't feel like Cain's character earned it in a writing sense. (Not that he as a person doesn't, but just from an objective sense as a writer his character doesn't meet the criteria of the main focus end-all guy.) It's probably just the way this was set up, the way it was focused and the overall feel of the manwha. Cain just doesn't make sense in this story. Still like him. Hope he gets his happy end, but I wish his character had been used in a separate story completely outside of this universe.

After that, Jooin trains hard in the gym and becomes a hot packed hunk who then goes to the bar every night topping every twink he sets his eyes on....

He's finally realizing cain has been there all along just wanting him. He's finally realizing how sincerely cain has cared for him compared to yahwi. He's finally coming to his senses. Why is that a bad thing? He's 'human' too. He's not perfect and he literally admitted that the reason he was so indecisive all this while is because he was insecure about his own self worth. He wasn't seeing them beyond his own view of himself. He's realizing his mistakes. It may feel late or rushed but trust me, irl feelings do work like that too sometimes

Idk why so many people are putting Yahwi and Cain in the same basket, Yahwi wasn't the "good guy" in his relationship with Jooin. Like if you wanna hate Jooin you do you, but stop acting as if he wronged Yahwi when Yahwi blew his chances on his own. Not saying Yahwi should rot in hell obviously, but him having a pretty design and a sad backstory doesn't erase how shitty he was with Jooin till Jooin finally grew a spine. So no, Yahwi doesn't "deserve better", he had something good, he just ruined it and now he faces the concequences.

Uke just said that he can't refuse the Seme and because of that, I think I understand why the uke was running away in the rain with bruises and his clothes torn in chapter 1 now, I'm already feeling bad for the uke

say what you will about the plot/characters, but the writing in this is lovely. the author is so poetic!!!

I'm finally so happy jooin dumping yahwi cuz majority of yaois have victim ending up with rapist/abuser troupe cuz it was getting annoying & it's so good to see bottoms to stand up for themselves, i want more yaois like this where victim doesn't ends with abuser

Just like the author of Love Or Hate, this author is having so much fun watching the readers battle it out with the endgame.
I personally love that there are no spoilers as it allows us all to read in peace without someone "kindly" serviing us their unwanted "foresight".
It's exciting to see things unfolding slowly and unpredictably - the mark of a great author is not to give anything away and I'm invested right to the very end.

Ok it was kinda painful to read these two chapters , I felt sad for both Jooin and Yahwi, although I'm not a fan of Yahwi.
We can understand both of them, now they're both aware of their short comings, they both can tell when it went wrong, and that they should end it once and for all. It's sad but that's what happens in real life.
Also from these two chapters and the ones before with Cain, I can tell that Jooin loves both of them. But in both cases he had to let them go. He let go of Cain because he doesn't want to ruin Cain's future, and he let go of Yahwi because his love hurt him a lot and ruined him.
If this story is ending soon, then it will have an open ending with no definite answer. Otherwise it will be rushed.
If there is a time skip, then there should be another season. I don't know if they're all going to meet again in the future or if it's going to be just Jooin and Cain meeting and maybe deciding to be together.
This last chapter seemed like a closure of Jooin and Yahwi, but well, you never know.
Anyway, it's a good thing that they all went their separate ways for now, they all need to grow and heal.

The way Jooin ended it was so great, it felt realistic, especially when he said the thought of Yawhi loving him and not loving him hurts him, he was honest, something Yawhi still failed to do till the very end. But Jooin is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t because the audience this manhwa has accumulated are stupid. “Jooin acts like a victim >: (“ because he is? I will never forget the scene of Yawhis friends making fun of Jooin and he does nothing to defend him, just stares at him. I’m not even a Cain fan either, he inadvertently took advantage of the fact that Jooin was hurting from what Yawhi did and slept with him. Jooin has been put through loops, he can’t read inner monologues like we do, he’s been in the dark about everything so I don’t blame him for the way he acted, it was understandable

It upsets me to see how people still speak badly about Jooin. This chapter did a very good job of showing the turmoil the characters were going through. At first i thought the dynamic was a little ridiculous, but ive found myself in a similar situation to jooin recently. Someone you loved first betrayed your trust and made u feel like you didnt matter, if they come back while you start to connect with other people, will that trust ever be the same again? Even if your love for each other is deep and intense? having two people approach you and having to weigh your options, and try to not let how much u miss a past thats difficult to go back to cloud your decision, it feels like it rips you apart. Im sure jooin really cared for yahwi and im sure yahwi cared for jooin, but sometimes once something like thats happens its difficult to navigate. Jooin isnt stupid, he is kind and wants to live honestly, and wants to be sincere with the people he cares about, but once it gets messy like this and your the one who has to make these decisions its not as easy as people might think it is.

These two chapters really hit home, there’s times when you need to learn to put yourself first sometimes and distance yourself from people who hurt you and think they’re entitled for another chance since they are “now ready” for a relationship. The trust is broken and I totally get Jooin for wanting to just leave all of it behind.