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i dont get how people are saying the plot is all over the place?? or how "i dont tgink eveb the author knows whos going to be the endgame" dyou guys need to be spoon fed? i feel like some of yall in the comments dont like how the story is going/how its not favoring tj in any way thats why somw of you just blame it on the plot

Hello,
A little bit of context here, this story takes place 5 ish years after omega complex. So we would like to believe his character has improved and his ideas on love too. They even hint at him tutoring a kid in the other story. At this point the main leads in omega complex are basically married and all that.
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Idk what’s going on in the comments but I read the novel and I don’t think Dohyun is that much of a red flag? Bro knows proper consent and he had tried his best to maintain proper boundaries with the uke and not overstep. After all when they met, uke was not even of legal age and Dohyun was his tutor? So of course he rejected Wooyeon?

And now that they’ve grown up, Dohyun is still maintaining boundaries and setting lines that Wooyeon can and cannot cross, which shows that Dohyun is serious in his relationships. Only once he develops feelings for Wooyeon he lets go of those walls and lines he created, which I think is valid and respectable.

Overall Dohyun treats Wooyeon very gently throughout the novel and treats him well so what’s the complaint here? My only peeve is that Wooyeon seems so much more in love than Dohyun, but that might just be because of the lack of pov from Dohyun’s side…

Wooyeon fell first, and HARDER, so it just feels a bit lackluster from Dohyun especially since Dohyun was aware of Wooyeon’s feelings the entire time.

Also they take AGES to fuck

Wet Sand always knows how to put me in a melancholic mood. Ian’s character means so much to me, mostly because in some way, I can relate to him.

He has always been overshadowed and misunderstood due to his sexual nature and the BL storyline, but really, he’s such a tragically beautiful character in the sense that despite the lack of power over his life, Ian still lives for himself, and yearns for his own truth. Everything has been dictated by his circumstances. The struggle for autonomy has been a present theme in Ian’s character and TJ is in the flesh (symbolic), an inner reflection of his struggle to realizing his individuality. To live for himself and his wants. TJ in a sense is the “consciousness,” the objective or reality, better said the environment which shaped Ian. He is representative of the reality which Ian lacks control within. TJ quite literally looms over Ian like something inevitable, shaping Ian’s life, and he is Ian’s circumstances.

While Jo is the “unconscious,” the desire; being in control. Jo has always been representative and of what Ian wants: a normal, mundane life. But Jo is also Ian realizing himself and his identity outside of his circumstances. Jo who yearns for Ian, and chases after him, is symbolic of Ian’s need of finding himself.

I wanted to drop a quick summary on the politics behind Yeonjo’s father’s execution since I think some people are unclear on what happened or why it happened:
Yeonjo’s father is the right state councilor. The new king’s brother (aka the grand prince, which is the title of the past king’s legitimate son that is not in line for the crown) employed Kwon as an officer because of his record as a brutal solidier. An officer oversees and leads other soldiers. The grand prince believed Kwon’s savagery would improve their military. kwon accepted the position and spent Kwon served years as an officer, even reaching commander level. at At time, a group outside the border of Kwon’s territory called the outlanders were preparing to attack. The councilors and ministers of the state did not agree with preparing a campaign against a possible invasion because the grand prince’s brother had just ceded the throne, meaning the state isnt prepared to fight a war. The state also had low food supplies, so the military wouldn’t have provisions. The grand prince believes the territory is in jeopardy because of the councilors’ reluctance. Kwon even singles out the right state councilor as a threat. Kwon advises the grand prince to ignore the ministry and councilors’ authority for the “greater good” of the kingdom. The grand prince decides to take out the right state councilor (who has the most power of the councilors), his elder sons, and the ministers of defense. This is decided with the goal of making an example out of them and scaring the other officials into complying. Kwon is tasked with executing the right state councilor and his two oldest sons. When the RS councilor and the ministers were killed, the other officials withdrew from their original stances and chose to comply. Once all the officials were in agreement with the grand prince, and the new king was left helpless and without support from the council or ministry, the grand prince took over the throne in order to lead the war and defend the kingdom.
The INTERESTING part is that Kwon did not actually have to take the role of killing the RS councilor, he says it was fueled by self interest because taking on the responsibility would grant him a quick promotion, which is why he is now such a high-rank noble.

Unless TJ leaves the gang somehow, he can’t be endgame. It won’t be realistic if he leaves immediately but it’s still realistic to leave a gang, he just has to prepare for that. But he’s preparing to continue being in the gang in a higher position.

He’s not thinking about what Ian wants. And anyone who believes he’s thinking about Ian, idk what you’re reading, but what he’s doing is not what Ian wants. Being in the gang as a leader just makes it more risky and less protection guaranteed. People act like TJ becoming a leader is gonna protect, no, some of y’all clearly don’t know the extent of how people can be in gangs. Some do not give a shit about who’s in charge.

This story wouldn’t be a story if Ian wanted to stay in the gang world. I can’t believe some people actually believe that Ian is deluding himself into thinking he wants a normal life. How is he deluding? WHO WOULDN’T WANT A NORMAL LIFE?

Ian clearly IN HIS WORDS said: “I’ve never wanted any of this from the beginning” (gang life). Just say that you want TJ as endgame regardless of how Ian feels, none of y’all care about Ian.

yall saw jo literally saying tj should let ian go for his own sake but ran with it to say he’s greedy or weird??? i don’t think we’re reading the story the same because he very clearly was concerned for ians mental health and emotional stability every time he’s around tj…

it’s quite hypocritical when tj is the one forcefully clinging all these years, but jo is somehow the ultimate villain as if they haven’t sorted out their core problems for the past decade. power struggle aside this entire story has been showing up how ian is terrified of the person he becomes in affiliation with the gang, and tjs worst downside is that he won’t care if ian breaks down as long as he’s by his side. it’s concerning how ian isn’t seen as his own person in the story by some readers :(

jo should be endgame tbh… i reread this entire webtoon because the amount of people belittling ian and jo’s connection had me feeling crazy. while i understand why there’s fans for tj and ian it’s also very easy to define their relationship as something codependent, unstable, and unhealthy in the long run. i don’t think yall remember in the beginning how it was hinted tj used to harm others, and even ian himself, because of his possessiveness and fear of being left behind. he then tied ian down by forcing him to pay an outrageous debt to keep him in the gangs clutches longer. yet i saw so many people only call out jo for saying he wanted them to have exclusive sex this chapter and calling it toxic, while completely ignoring him/tj’s long winded history of one-sided violence

with tj, ian is haunted by the past and becomes a shell of a person that’s not even himself. tj has no plans to leave the gang, and this environment turns ian into a ruthless and unfeeling machine… almost like nothing. their sex is honest and passionate because he’s not fucking for love. to him it’s an act of raw desire that distracts them from the problems they share and never wanting to open up (as ian admits). together they perpetuate a cycle of constant push and pull, where one person is always at the extreme

with jo, ian is able to take a fresh breath and feel like there’s a life that’s exists far beyond what he’s been shown. ian becomes SO curious and has endless first times when it comes to fulfilling things. it’s like his inner child is being healed, and he’s able to be young and carefree. he unknowingly lets his guard down, and is comforted by how alike they are (how they say or think the same things at the same time). jo opens up ian’s world instead of shutting him away

all this to say, i feel like the sex scenes blind tj and ian shippers + fans believe utter devotion = tj is owed love from ian, even that very devotion is harmful or manipulative. and jo doesn’t deserve as much hate as people give him

I was reading the series back recently and we actually learn quite a bit about Gyeol throughout the series it just is very spread out so it's hard to keep track.

In Chapter 19 we see Suyeon and Gyeol in freshmen year and we learn that Suyeon is the top student which Gyeol resents. In senior year we see that Suyeon is still working hard even after finishing his thesis which Gyeol finds annoying. In Chapter 12 Gyeol talks about wanting to help Suyeon and the ceramics department only for Suyeon to remind him that Gyeol was the one desperate to have an exhibit (meaning that Suyeon was having exhibits). It seems like Gyeol was always threatened and by and envious of Suyeon's talent and being the top student.

Chapters 18 and 19 shows Suyeon upset and confessing to Gyeol before he leaves for America. Gyeol agrees to go out with Suyeon after seeing him cry (looks like he enjoys seeing Suyeon suffer). In chapter 38 we see that Gyeol has been ghosting Suyeon telling him he forgot about him. This is where Gyeol tells Suyeon he will only have sex with him if Suyeon can cum from being choked. When Suyeon can't Gyeol tells him that he will only stay if Suyeon can keep him entertained and in chapter 47 we see that Suyeon practiced choking himself so that Gyeol would reward him with sex.

We see in chapter 2 their breakup when Gyeol tell him that he is sick of both Suyeon and his work and in chapter 12 we learn that Gyeol had a girlfriend (probably while he was with Suyeon).

The thing that jumped out the most is how much Gyeol is threatened by Suyeon as an artist. He finds it annoying that Suyeon is always at the pottery wheel and distracts him in chapter 35, when he breaks up with him he makes sure to also mention being sick of his work and he was annoyed that Suyeon is the top student. Suyeon described making his art piece from the exhibit as giving birth to his and Yoonho's child because Yoonho was the inspiration only for Gyeol to say that the piece is funny because it's about Suyeon being obsessed with sex. In an upcoming chapter Yoonho's ex-girlfriend correctly identifies that Yoonho and Suyeon are lovers because their art pieces complement each other but Gyeol sees Suyeon as only being a sex crazed slut.

Suyeon actually spends a lot of the story not wanting to be around Gyeol, being forced to meet with him for university reasons and to share a loft and he calls out Gyeol's bullshit repeatedly. Gyeol was trying to say that Suyeon hasn't changed and that he is still hung up on Gyeol. Gyeol says that he had forgotten about their time together and that Suyeon must be upset about it but it's actually the opposite. When Gyeol realises that Suyeon has moved on with Yoonho, Gyeol is the upset one. He makes a move on Suyeon in chapter 38 out of anger and jealously after seeing Yoonho and Suyeon fuck because he still views Suyeon as his toy telling him in chapter 39 that Yoonho can't replace him. In chaper 47 he says Suyeon being so easy sucked all the fun out of their relationship and in chapter 48 he tells Yoonho he lent Suyeon to him and again says that Yoonho is his replacement. He only wants Suyeon now that Suyeon was moving on but if Suyeon was interested in being with Gyeol he would lose interest again.

TLDR; Gyeol feels inferior to Suyeon as an artist and degrading Suyeon sexually helped him feel better about himself. He doesn't have any real concerns about Suyeon because he went out of his way to cause him as much pain possible with the way he broke up with him and in having a girlfriend.

Suyeon knows this as well but Suyeon is filled with so much self-loathing and feelings of being dirty that he thinks he deserves this treatment and is now stimulated and addicted to it. Suyeon loves Yoonho more than he ever loved Gyeol but Suyeon's is a broken form of love.

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You know there is this new spin off about the older brothers of our seme
I just read it btw
And now i re read ch. 12 here. Omg now the dots are connected, why he had all those bear t shirts lol. And the older brother wearing bear socks lol. Anyway i also re read seme s past and wow now it all makes sense.
Also i m so fucking glad the older brother really tried to take seme with him too, and not only the little blondie. It was sweet. And i am glad they care for each other. Seme here is just tsundere (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Also in ch. 12 appears this red haired guy. Omg i think he is the same guy that appears at the end of mondays saviour season 1... The bully or ex friend of our yooil. I think they are the same person

Subin's love is verbal while jun is physical, I really hope for a side stories that can show their love equally. I feel like the both of them choose to stay with each other without thinking much for their relationship until someone is giving up or hurt enough like how subin did and to think that for 4 years they stay like that...That kind of love is tiring #－.－)

The story is so realistic. If only Jooin could be little like Subin... First love is hard to forget but Subin is the proof that first love is nothing but endless love is what he needs. Jun wasn't first love but he was his last love. I love how 2nd ML win in this story. I can see Subin still loved Hyeonwoo but he chose not to care about their past anymore since he also loves Jun and in relationship with him. Jun is the one who heal Subin broken hearted. Cain too. but Jooin chose Yahwi at the end because he loved him too much as he was his first love. What a typical BL story. Hate Mate has the best plot ever..

the way author might not let cain have a side story cause he was a main character and is deeply entangled with the rapist and jooin wdym there's none,,, you frickin did the ending and stating that he is learning to love himself LIKE THE WAY A CAIN SIDE STORY MIGHT BE A GOOD REDEMPTION FOR THE HEADACHES YOU GAVE US

atp I'll write a cain×reader cause he deserves to be anywhere besides being a stepping stone for the trashy main couple

Remind me to never read anything the author decides to write after that cuz this thing was a dumpster fire and honestly it was just a lazy and lousy attempt at a love triangle

It would have better shown "growth and maturity" if Jooin would have not taken Yawhi back, even if Cain wasn't the end game.

You would think inventing a character that centers around reincarnation and reuniting with your first love in the next life would take priority as a fantastical and world altering plot story especially since that character was the jumping point of the entire idea of the story but nah, that's just background stuff. Like WHY insert a character that has such a disruptive and insane background in what is essentially a very bog standard, run of the mill will-they-won't-they couple who have zero interest in the fact that this other guy CAN REMEMBER HIS PAST LIFE??? It's like a BL where a side character has magic powers and needs to save the universe, but let's spend 80% of the story on this toxic couple who argue about petty shit. It just trivializes everything. Anyway I'm not going to miss this, but I am going to miss everyone in the comment section lol

I actually was really anticipating the authors' notes because I needed to know what was going on in their minds while creating this poorly executed love triangle. And then I read that Cain was the first character to be created and that the concept was born out of his own bg (a pet being reincarnated). And then what do they do? Create a love triangle (with 2 characters that are not on par with Cain at all, I'm sorry Jooin and Yawhi stans), set everything in a present day that doesn't relate to the concept of reincarnation (except from Cain of course) and just use Cain as a device to get the other two to be endgame. And on top of that???? We are told that Cain's whole existence is just in relation of Jooin's existence (like, Cain learned to love himself but he is still not his own person) and that the authors are not likely to show us A FULL ASS BG/SIDE STORY about Cain (and his brothers). Ah and yes also Cain is not allowed to have another love story.
Like, authors, you can use a lot of deep and meaningful concept and just sing praises to all of your ideas and characters, but the execution WAS NOT IT. Just no.
Cain literally deserves his own story. We DO NOT need more side stories about Jooin and Yawhi, who from the very beginning should have had their own story SEPARATED from Cain's story.
They are literally two whole different plots put together just because "love triangles sell". Yes, when they make sense and are well executed. But not like this.
I appreciated reading the process behind this story. I hope the authors are happy with themselves and are resting now. But I will cut my fingers off before reading another one of their stories. Unless it is about giving justice to Cain. That I will read. And it is funny because I was not and I am not a Cain stan lol I didn't even wanted him to end up with Jooin in the end. Like, characters like Cain are not really my favorites in general, but in this webtoon he is the best written character...but he is just a plot device. I am so disappointed but also resigned because I shouldn't have expected anything better after reading the authors' very first webtoon (the one before Yours to Claim, which too had bonker plot).
See yall somewhere else (maybe complaining together on Jinx).

"Therefore, the story existed in my ideas folder for a very long time..."

To quote another author, Mr C. Hitchens who was far more interesting and entertaining than these two: "That's also where it should have stayed"

Basically Cain won't have a story because his whole purpose in the world is to follow Jooin's order to live and be happy?
I never, NEVER, saw a character so poorly written.
That could have made a good premise to make his own story and maybe grow as person and character and to build a good plot around his growth and gradually taking distance from Jooin. But nah, in the end every character focus only on Jooin.
I sincerely hope the writer doesn't write anymore because they are not good at doing this. There is nothing good in this story: not the characters, not the plot, not the development.
The only thing that I wanted from this story was actually an arc for Cain, but nope we don't even deserve that?
Sorry author, but no. You have SO wronged me.