Disclaimer:
I'm not makings this post to shame, disrespect or change anyone's mind, I read some comment in here, that are normalizing this type of relationships IRL, that's why I'm making this comment, the R word and S word are used.
I'm sorry but imagine been in the ML position. I feel so much pain for him, he is so scared and anxious all the time because of Seungho, I can't even fathom been in his place, at this point is not love, this is an abusive relationship that uses r*pe as a form to express "love", this is a toxic relationship at its finest, and some think that staying in this type relationship will change a person, and it probably will never gonna happen.
I had a friend in a very toxic relationship and unfortunately the only way out of it for her was committing suicide, that said this happened in real life. I know this is a fictional story with fictional characters. So whenever I see people who believe that staying in this type of abusive relationship in real life is ok and think the partner will " Change" to a better person because of your love in real life, is wrong. People don't tend to change and much less an abuser.
That said this is a fictional story, so if this is your way of copping and escaping reality the do what ever it takes to do so as long as it's not harming you. Again I'm not trying to shame or disrespect anyone. I'm just putting this in perspective for those who b actually believe this is right to be in your daily basis, if you're someone in a abusive relationships please do seek help from love ones or authorities.
Why, oh why can't people understand that fiction character and stories don't have an obligation to portray or follow real life?
Where is the line on this shit? Only rape plot or should every fiction only be 'if you can't imagine this in real life, you shouldn't imagine this in fiction'.
Let's start banning omega verse, please because all those mpreg are triggering me. I just don't hang around the popular ones demanding people to feel like I do.
This story is not for people who can't disconnect or dissociate fiction and reality.
This is what is very wrong: hang here and demand other readers to feel like you feel about the story or shame them as somewhat abnormal.
If you know that a story has a situation that you can't accept to be written, why do you read it? Or more to the point, why do you think it's right to demand from everyone else to see the story the way you do for your benefit?
I don't understand why people who get triggered by non con or other non normative fiction don't pay attention to the red warning at the door and insist on putting themselves through situation and fiction that upsets them.
'I once had a friend in a very toxic relationship'..... stop trying to shame people reading adult fiction into believing they are somehow guilt or responsible for real life victims of anything.
Never mind that each person has their own experiences in life and some even, as crazy as it may sound to you, find control or deal with it escaping to fiction.
Read the Yaoi section of wikipedia. Such Yaoi rape stories even have they own psychological origin on why the genre is meant as a different universe.
If Yaoi stories with unrealistic or 'wrong' moral compass are beyond your tolerance, triggers or the audience has the same effect because they are not outraged as you are, please. don't read it.
This is just so wrong: POTN is full of readers who clearly believe they have the right to shame and demand the readers to change or stop shipping, liking or enjoying their fiction just so they fell comfortable in an environment they shouldn't be in the first place.
This is not a realistic relationship. It is not meant to be. This story is Warehouse, Caste Heaven and all the many other non con stories in here where you are free to ignore it exactly because they will not go the way they should in real life and you
Please, people, look at the kind of art this author promotes: a full blown ship.
This story will progress in a way that will only get you more triggered and frustrated so for your own mental health, please do a reassessment of :
Why did you pick a rape plot trope to read knowing what what you signed up for?
If you started reading this by mistake, why do you still keep reading it?
If you are aware that you can't accept this, what kind of joy you get wasting your time reading something that you dislike?
I myself lived through a toxic relationship myself and reading these silly, unrealistic, twilight zone kind of tropes actually helped me for a long time. Maybe I like to 'imagine' a fake reality that people can be human even if they are doing horrible things to me. Maybe I felt that it was my way of control. I can't explain neither I think I should. Although every time I read a shaming post in here I noticed that I get triggered by the feeling of being judged. So in a way, the shamers are more offensive to me than any of these idiotic yaoi unrealistic tropes will ever be.
Curiously enough, I can't read rape stories where rape is treated as realistic, I can't read abuse stories who fit into real moral or expectations but I found that these 'saved by love' distorted fantasies entertain me.
I just don't think people realize that human beings are more complex than one mold. Every shamer in here wants other people to fall in line with their vision of how they should feel about these characters and stories BASED on real life.
I don't know how many times people will have to write and explain: if you can't relate to people who don't need or even want their fiction to be locked on what real life should be, you will never be able to understand how people can think different from you.
I wish the readers who think that shipping Seungho x Nakyum is wrong considered that they are reading a story from an author who explicitly do just that so every time you post, talk or spend time around it, you just creates even more popularity to a genre you claim to disagree with.
I don't even know what is the intention of the shamers of non con stories. Is the goal to sanitize Yaoi so only stories that treat fictional characters and relationships under real life prism to be allowed?
Every time I ask this I get some kind of ridiculous response about 'normalizing rape'. This is a very patronizing and condescending answer because basically they are saying that they are smart enough to understand that rape is not normal in real life but everyone else is too stupid to know it if they happen to ship a couple like this.
This story, this couple, this relationship is not meant to be translated to your real life experiences. Of course not everyone will be able to not do it. These people are in the wrong aisle of the catalog.
In anyway of form I'm demanding or implying that anyone should change their minds about this story or any other fictional story regarding abusive relationships. If that's your way of escaping reality do whatever you need to do, to satisfy your needs.
I'm capable to understand and comprehend that this it's in fact a FICTIONAL story. My only problem with this type of story is when normal people actually think that is right to have a relationship like this one in REAL life. Thats why I gave my statement regarding what actually would happened in REAL life, if someone was to be in a ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. That's the only thing that I find problematic about a topic, that it's physically and psychologically damaging for an individual.
My massage was not directed to those that understand that this is a fictional story with fictional characters, but to those who actually believe that this is something that you need to put up with in your day to day basis. And if you are someone in this situation please do seek help from love ones and even authority.
That said if this is what's to your liking, who am I to change your way of thinking.
"My only problem with this type of story is when normal people actually think that is right to have a relationship like this one in REAL life. "
So basically you are saying that you are here to educate and lecture these group of people who, according to you, think this is normal.
I notice this happens quite frequently, that a general post 'teaching' people in the topic session that what they are reading is wrong in real life, when replied, are always clarified to be meant for this elusive groups of people who would not know it.
The mystery of this argument is that shippers of non con don't put disclaimers that they know that what they are reading is rape and not normal in real life, exactly because it's already a moot point. So, unless you assume that just because people are not putting a big disclaimer on every one of their posts when the exercise their silly fangiriling over a fictional character, you assume that they have shit for brains and they really are taking this story as real life teaching of how relationships are.
Every 12 year old or young would know that if a man kidnaps them, rapes them, beat them in real life is not normal. No matter if they even say they love you. I really think that even you agree with that. You must know that there is no person in here who actually think that rape in real life is normal.
I am yet to find one person who can argue that POTN and stories like these will make people believe that rape is normal in real life, unless, of course the person is already someone with serious development problems like mentally challenged.
So the question changes to : if you guys are here to educate a certain group of people who you believe is so mentally challenged or below your level of intelligence that can't know that what Seungho is doing here is wrong, who are these people?
Where is this mythological group of people who reads POTN and argues that rape is normal or that this is a relationship they would see as okay and normal in real life?
If they exist, their psychological problem is way beyond your good intentioned cause of hang around here posting an educational PSA in hopes of saving them.
You conveniently removed all the replies to your post but keeps alleging that there are people here who thinks that this type of relationship is normal in real life.
" My only problem with this type of story is when normal people actually think that is right to have a relationship like this one in REAL life. "
Please, if your argument that you came here to lecture and teach people who think this is normal, who are these people?
Readers of non con stories like these don't put disclaimers on their silly fangirling or shipping saying that they know rape is wrong exactly because the point is moot. So if your argument is that people can't post their shipping posts unless they clarify to you that they know that the relationship is not normal in real life, who are you referring to?
I notice that every time a shamer is called off regarding the fact that this is fiction and therefore people not always demand moral reality, the poster tries to argument that they are only talking to a group of people who 'think this is normal'.
Every 12 y old or younger in normal society knows that if a man kidnaps, rapes them, even if they say they love them is not normal. So, again, who thinks this relationship is normal?
In order for something to be 'normalizing' you need people who will accept this as normal in real life. You post these arguments that you are here to educate and lecture people but you guys never show who are these mythological creatures who are reading POTN and think that rape is normal in real life.
If someone is reading this and thinking .... 'hmm... I think rape is normal now and Seungho could be a good boyfriend if he was real ... after all I read it on POTN' then, like I said, these people are way beyond your well intentioned cause of save them by hanging around non con Yaoi stories posting educative posts about how rape is wrong in real life.
Please, again, to the educators making their mission to save the misguided people reading this: Where are these people in here who you are accusing of saying that this relationship is normal in real life?
This story takes place in the past.So the rights or wrongs of today is completely different from the rights and wrongs back in that time period.Plus this story is fiction and whoever is naive enough to think that this is right and try to normalize it isn’t mature enough to read this story.
Plus the chances of that happening is very low.
This reminds me so much to the book"The First She" In wattpad!! I swear this is how I imagine how the characters would look like.
But I'm in love with how innocent and hot Shaka is
who's the author?
It's by Ancientt
The first she.. my dear vroxx and kira
oki thank u!
i tried to read it, and it really does look like totem realm in a way like tarzan and jane lol
Imma read it now ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶