You're really kind of rude. That's not how you ask someone for something, but here you go.
"Why are you crying, even though you're a boy." is a very gendered way of discouraging certain behaviors of biologically assigned males, like expecting them to be 'masculine', manly, brave, strong, rational, etc. etc.
But sticking with the crying, societal pressure brainwashes them into thinking they can't show emotion or women won't find them attractive (look at how males are portrayed in movies/tv, and how others react to 'feminine' behavior from them - "stop being such a girl/wimp", "man up", etc.) and their peers will respect them less and likely call them derogatory names associated with the LGBTIQ community, which I shall not name out of respect and a personal vendetta against these hate crimes. These behaviors are NOT HEALTHY, that is what they meant by the comment. Making children suppress their emotions is cruel and abusive, giving them opportunity to LEARN how to live with them, that is what society should get behind - at least this is my view.
Also, shouldn't we be brought up to see people as HUMAN, instead of a 'man' or a 'woman'? Just saying.
I too was confused with how they were rude
I smell non-native misunderstanding. As a non-native myself, I've always had trouble getting the subtleties of politeness (or lack there of) in the "care to do sth" shortened phrase. >.<
No rage, just HONESTLY annoyed. Though I do apologize if I mistook their infliction for a demand, it just read that way to me because first off - a please, wouldn't hurt. At least where I was raised. Does no one ever say please and thank you anymore that the general public has forgotten that they exist? Really?
Ah, also, I didn't think they were rude to ask the question - I thought it was rude HOW they asked. And to me, not saying please when you ask for something is rude, all they had to do was tack on a please and I would've answered the same minus the first couple sentences. Again, not mad, no rage - just annoyed.
I'm so sorry that you misunderstood me! Please forgive me for what I said, I honestly (just my opinion, no hate) don't understand what you mean by 'RUDE'. I think I was nervous that day and said it that way because I had to get a injection for cervical cancer and I was nervous (Since I haven't had a injection for over 6 years and it has a big impact on my future of having children) but I don't think that is related though as it's just a comment I made... And also thank you for explaining for what I didn't understand! (▰˘◡˘▰)
You know, I'm thinking... You make a big case of not judging boys for crying and not forcing them into typical male behaviour by reproaching them. But for real- right there with your comment you're just like that. Thinking you have the right to be annoyed about somebody just because they don't follow your idea of politeness. And anonymously to boot. That's what I'd call rude. In my very private opinion the world doesn't change at all whether you say Please and Thank You or not. But it changes a lot if people stop being hypocrites.
As someone who majored in linguistics in university and studied pragmatics, politeness is more than just tacking on the word “please.” The phrase “care to” is a polite one. A little formal, but 100%polite and legit. You misinterpreted, but that person followed the code. You feeling offended is totally on you.
That's okay, thank you for taking the time to clear up the misunderstanding. Though considering the conversational bent here, I'd say I've overstep a social boundary.
My apologies if my reaction to your comment caused any offense or hurt.
And the very best of luck for your future! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Point taken, but I'm not following your logic exactly, so I could be missing what you're trying to say to me. That is I'm being hypocritical because I'm preaching non-judgement, and yet I judge others? - to which I will add, that everyone judges people, it's why we have first impressions and stereotypes, they aren't accurate, they aren't always a good thing, but they're useful. My barometer for 'politeness' falls into these categories, quick, snap decisions that will on occasion fail me, as it seems to have here, especially in text where I cannot measure tone very well. It's also why I try to make a point in sticking through these conversations, in case I am wrong, even when people end up annoyed at me for it. That being said, you've made me come to the realization I should probably stop doing that....thanks...?
On the 'anonymous' front, I'd like to say that everyone here is virtually anonymous. We use names that are not our own, and often language we usually wouldn't. What difference would it make if you had a name to call me, even one that was not real? (honest question here, not rhetorical).
And I'll own that, it was my mistake. It seems I've been around impolite people too often to actually be able to read something polite and interpret it as not, which makes me sad, thought I was rather more optimistic about humanity to be honest.
Thanks for the dressing down, looks like I needed it my all accounts Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)
Thank you for reading and answering my text so carefully!
Well, judging others... We do that, yes. The crucial point is how it's done. Telling others that their behaviour might not be appropriate is on another level as just getting plain annoyed and tell them off. To me at least, the way it's done is all the difference.
The last thing I want you to do is stopping anything.
In the course of that conversation above it already happened - you stopped and thought about why and how people react to your comment like that and I think you're quite open-minded to adjust your ways.
To me, that's all that has to happen to have a more constructive conversational base where people can develop instead of suppress themselves.
And also I'm not annoyed at all, I just love to discuss things.
Actually I'm quite thankful that you're taking it up and explain yourself so I can understand you better.
About that anon-stuff - nah, it's different if you enter a conversation anonymously 'cause it feels much more like someone doesn't give a damn about the things they spout out. It's just another little difference on the politeness-scale
So to sum it all up, I'd just could have said: Please, be more polite when telling others off about their impoliteness. Otherwise it's useless.
Ah, I've got you now.
Thank you for sticking with this conversation as well. Not many people have the patience(?) to actually discuss their opinions anymore, especially where there is conflict. They kind of just eviscerate then leave. A shame, like you, I think its a great way for people to develop, if only they'd push past their discomfort to try and understand other people. Maybe that's why people tend to be so sensitive lately, and shun people who don't conform.
I see your point. Though my reasoning for anonymity is because of privacy, I can see how it could cause discomfort to other people. Especially when its a charged comment. I'll have to revise my position on when to add a 'name'.
Thank you, again, for the conversation (▰˘◡˘▰)
Honestly all this "omg he's so talented", "he won so many prizes", blahblah gets dumber and shallower... it really gets on my nerves.
It's pretty much only in manga (probs in dramas too, but I don't watch them), it portrays life just witless. You don't have simply one talent. Maybe you have a good eye for things. If that's the case you develop abilities in more than only one artistic direction.
But having talent isn't the only thing you need. Every person who gets admired for having "talent" works and works for years to perfect their abilities, it just kinda makes me angry reading this so often because too many people believe this and just don't try themselves. They conjure up excuses like "I've just got no talent" and give up.
I'm kinda dumbfounded how graphic everything was o_o goodness