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this is sad..
U bring science, religion, PC, and feeling..

Religion has nothing to do with the hate of homosexuality or incest for that matter (idk how I personally feel about incest though). Its just people reading the Quran and Bible however suits their agenda. Being religious does not mean being closed minded. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

I don't want to start religious talk here but bible and quran and torah clearly attack and hate homosexuals

I mean... I like incest in my fiction and all, but the hatred for incest does have its roots on society and culture rather than just religion or just science. Old anthropology theories (specifically Levi-Strauss) stated that the first "law" of humans is the prohibition against incest, and although it varies a lot from culture to culture, it's considered "universal". Again, this is an old theory and I'm no anthropologist to give you an in-depth explanation on the matter, but the hatred of incest is definitely something cultural.

You could say the same about the hatred for homosexuality, but different cultures have accepted, supported or even preferred homosexuality in the past, so it's a different issue altogether.

Again, I like to read incest in fiction, but it's better to just acknowledge that it's not something acceptable in reality for very complex reasons. Though, I must say, incest is less morally wrong (to me personally) than rape, so...

I agtee with Leeran, incest being morally wrong is mostly a cultural construct not really a religious one. For example, i've read the bible a few times but now that I think about it it never states anything against incest. (Though I could be wrong because I only read it for Art Historial contexts) Especially when you consider that it states in the beginning that adams and eve's children had to reproduce with eachother. Also looking at the Egyptian culture it was highly recommended to engage in incest. The gods Isis and Osiris were twin and the pharaoh's married their sisters whenever they could. Same in the old Greek religion where all the gods were brothers and sisters and still married and had children with eachother. And even looking at just the European kings and queens of old they were all family, but not only through marriage but also through blood.
But nowadays we do know that incest between brothers and sisters is not really good for the genes. If you look how some of the pharaoh's of old looked like, they had a whole list of deffects which resulted from constant incest. So not just cultural but also a biological construct I guess.

I don't know about the Quran, but the bible really doesn't. People interpret it to but I never saw it that way and neither do a lot of other Christians. Their are thousands of churches around the world that openly advertise and support the LGBT+ community. It's very important to us that people don't believe the stereotypes of homophobic Christians. Sure there are Christians who think that, but for every "west bureau baptist church" their are hundreds of supporters.

I don't think this site is the right place to discuss things like politics or religion. I advise you to move this debate to Reddit.

even the pope don't support LGBT , I don't care about the reformative churches cuz they don't really represent the mainstream christans , and I am not interested in bible but I do know that chritstans believe not only in new testament but also in old testament and jews books Torah and Talmud and all those books are against LGBT , no matter how much you try to deny and polish them they clearly are homophobic misogynistic and racist books .. and from history we do know that abrahamic religions been burning and killing homosexuals since the begin , only now they claim to open their churchs and such for LGBT .

Well to each their own, I think a few of the people in the comments were just trying to say that yes the pope might be against LGBT and the majority of monotheist religions are against it and incest etc, but it doesn't ever say in the Bible and other holy books that it is wrong, it is something that people believe is wrong(a cultural value not a spiritual one). I am religious and I have religious family that is against LGBT, but I think it is their personal hatred of me, not Gods hatred... if that makes sense. King James had a gay lover, but he financed the most used translation of the Bible in the world, you dont hear Christians talk about that. Its cultural hate using the Bible, Quran and Torah as an excuse. Just like Muslims are not inherently violent it is extremists interpreting and using the Quran to justify their violence. Religion is not necessarily evil, it is suppose to teach us to love, but people use it to hate and pretend that is love, "I love you, but the bible says...." It says not to judge.

He can be wrong and hateful too, the pope is just a man. The Bible that the Pope does not speak for (it speaks for itself), literally says dont judge people unless you're sinless yourself, and to love EVERYONE, not throw your gay son on the streets etc and verbally abuse him. Everyone is allowed their opinions though.

the whole point of the Bible is that no one is perfect and we all need The love of God. The famous verse in the Bible that most interprete as anti LGBT is "for a man to sleep with another man is an abomination" most read it and only see the obvious. I think the verse is speaking about lust b cause two men couldn't get married during that time. The Bible does talk about how sex before marriage is wrong. A lot better f other people look at. It as a safety thing because it was dangerous for them because no one new about sexuality transmitted diseases. It's the same thing when god told the Jews not to eat pork. It's because the pork was dangerous to eat. Pigs ate everything mold, rotten meat, they would eat dead the body's of the dead.You should look down apon LGBT people wether you think it's wrong or not. It doesn't waiver the point that everyman has sinned but God lives us anyway.

just letting some people know im muslim ! and im really open minded about anything , like literally incest yaoi , yuri whatever on the list and there is millions too ! but the majority , sadly , are homophobics , in quran god did mention being gay is not bad but the act it self is ! (▰˘◡˘▰)

I am ex muslim and the quran does mention about homosexuals specially male ones by saying surah al a3raf ayat 81 ((( Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.")) https://quran.com/7/81

the verse is so clear and it's against male homosexuality , I don't know about lesbains but quran doesn't care about women so maybe it wasn't mention cuz they couldn't imagine women being homosexual too , anyway the verse is so clear so maybe you not practicing muslim or you didn't know I don't know .

Uhm the current Pope, Pope Francis the 299th pop is actually very accepting of LGBT. He publicly announced that LGBT are accepted by the church and he doesn't beleive god would condemn them.
Popes are people. And religion is just ideas and they are interpreted differently by all. Generalizations are really inaccurate and not really helpful. I mean depending on the bibles translator, example, in one version the couple elopes, in another in the same story the guy stole the girl.

There are also hundreds of different denominations and each denomination thinks a little differently about things.

yes that too. My church was very accepting to LGBT. There were a few very open couples I saw there all the time, so I think it depends on the people in the church and not the church. The people will create the atmosphere, not the pieces of paper in an old book.

yes it does ! its againist the act it self but if you are born gay ( not faking it like half of the tumblr-s) its out of your hands , god accepts you but not gonna accept what you are going to do because at last its one of the tests he does to people to see if they are going to follow him or ignore what he said and follow your/their desires. i was just saying that im open minded and talking about the act , i did not mean anything else !! ┗( T﹏T )┛

In my country, from a legal point of view, yes, even if you're not related by blood ^^
That means you can't marry but other than that nothing happens: law can't decide who you love (except of course for special relationships like with underage partners or whatever). I don't know what would happen if a baby was born from an incestuous relationship though.
Btw, cousins aren't considered incest ^^ (even if it's still not safe for the child -if there's one- on a genetical pov)

what if two people married then their parents decided to marry after that ? like one girl one boy strangers decided to marry , then those couple parents decided to marry too what happen from legal point of veiw ?

That's a good question... I have no idea ^^' my knowledge in that part of law isn't really good XD
But I don't think in that order would be a problem. In the end it's the instance delivering the marriage certificate that will decide.
I think the reason is that step-siblings are considered siblings, while the parents are completely unrelated and were not raised together. In the end it all comes back to "close family relationships should not evolve in romantic love ones", because of society taboos ^^

no. in no western region would that be considered incest . not by law. only point is if u want to marry u have to proof the no blood relation ( birth certification diff parents) . and law only afirm for that if , and only if! , the "step" parentpart adopted the not blood related child.

That's the whole concept of "fated pairs" though. They were 100% made for each other and no one else.

The author just took that concept and was just like 'hm, what if your fated pair wasn't exactly the same age as you because that's way too convenient and not dramatic at all'.

And then made this wonderful piece of work.

You're lame! I'm good at comebacks ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Its a collection of one-shots, so i'm not sure if there will be more to this story.

I don't think it is possible to make a shoujo manga involving an omega and an alpha as the entire idea behind alpha/omega is that they can't control their instinctual urge to reproduce as that is what their bodies evolved for, it would have to involve a beta.