sally

I recommend sora and haena or ring my bell

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dang_e_yi_yu_dao_bing_jiao/

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/please_bully_me_miss_villainess/

Watashi Ga Koibito Ni Nareru Wake Naijan, Muri Muri! (Muri Janakatta!?)

Whispering You a Love Song

The Fed Up Office Lady Wants to Serve the Villainess

I Favor The Villainess

Tamen De Gushi



They're all good, but it's still ongoing :D

i think tamen de gushi is a really good entry for gl!

The Villainess Who Steals the Heroine's Heart

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_guy_she_was_interested_in_wasn_t_a_guy_at_all/

tamen de gushi is the best manhua to start with. highly recommend

okay! ill read everyone's recco, ty!

It's considered rape cuz the drunk person isn't conscious so they don't know that they're having sex. Unless both parties are drunk, it's probably rape.

It is yes, and so is the "aphrodisiac" shit they pull in manga

What story are we talking here please. Because it kind of reminded me of The Evil Lady's Hero

Yup, it's rape. Not the same as sober rape but still bad. This severely depends on the level of drunkness. Is the person sluggish and more risky than usual? Or is the person full on blacked out, unable to fight back. Bc the latter is full on nasty rape. If both people are dunk it's not tho

exactly, exactly we have the same mindset. hello

Even though the drunk person started it? And seduced the other person?

Oh I was just talking about this trope in general, it's so prominent in smut/yaoi it's annoys me so much. And holy shit what happened in the manhwa I haven't read it a while??? Why did they do that to a good story?

That's the difficult thing. That's something between rape and taking advantage of someone. The other person KNOWS that the drunk person may be making decisions that they wouldn't otherwise. It really depends a lot on the situation. But it's never okay. Please don't have sex with drunk people unless you've talked about it before

I just want to clear it out because that's basically the starting point of The Evil Lady's Hero (￣∇￣"). I don't want yo think anything bad against the ML ╥﹏╥

Ugh, I completely forgot that part. It is something bad about ishid. He knew she was drunk and still went along with it. He did take advantage of her and that's realky nasty

But I think the FL also has a fault don't you think? For me a fault can't be a fault without the two parties contributing to it.

Rape is having one party not giving consent to the sex*al intercourse. But there are different situations too. If it's forced it's clearly rape. Having s*x with a drunk person without a proper and sober line of thought when you are completely sober is rape especially when dirty tricks were involved. But having the drunk party initiate and seduced the other in some you-know-what-I-mean way. I think saying it's rape would be unfair and unjust. In the end don't you think it's up to the situation and what do the other party says at the end? If the drunk
party says it's rape or something that he/she is totally against with to the point of prison
(￣∇￣") after being sober then it is. But if the party doesn't, isn't it also a form of consent? In the end it's up the parties involved
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I didn't say it was rape. I said he took advantage of her. She was drunk and her judgment was clouded. Sleeping with him was what she wanted to do the LEAST in her life at that moment. Ishid WAS sober while Yunifer wasn't. Even the day after he acknowledges that she could've made a mistake bc she was drunk. So he deliberately slept with her, knowing she might regret it. I don't hate Ishid but that is really questionable

Also, a lot of people take a lot of time to realize that they were sexually assaulted of any time. It took me three years so yeah. Some people also don't understand when their boundaries are being crossed, so you can't always rely on what victims say. In this Situation it wasn't rape but taking advantage of a situation and that isn't okay either!!

Yes, taking advantage was never good and I only stated the most relevant possible scenario that can be linked to the topic at hand. As for the party saying whether they are sexually assaulted or raped to be specific, I only considered adults since in my mind, only adults can get drunk and adults have the capability of telling whether they were taken advantage or not. Unless the adult is a really clueless person that time (￣∇￣"). But if you are talking to minors who don't have any clue what is what of course they wouldn't be able to tell. Well it's my fault too because I wasn't able to tell the limitations of what I said. However, 'for me' it is up to the 'parties involved' and the specific 'situation' they are in considering that they are 'adults' who knows what is what. As for what happened to you, I apologize if I ever offended you and made some unpleasant memories appear in your mind. However, I only stated what I think, although I forgot to include the limitations since I thought we are all thinking of adults with the capability of knowing what here.

I'm an adult and no, you didn't awaken any bad memories. The fact is though that teenagers do get drunk and have sex. Apart from that, I didn't even talk about teenagers. Adults are just as much not able to tell they have raped. When you're traumatized your mind pushes the trauma away and you try to justify what happened. Especially if it's someone you know. Then you'd say "well but I came onto them and seduced them so it obv isn't rape, I wanted it so it's consensual" but in reality it's not like that. Waking up with the knowledge that you had sex with someone you didn't want to is everything but not nice. To the victims of such incidents it can often appear like rape once they've realized what happened to them