Why u guys not talking about how much if a baddie (and crazy) the empress is? She loves him so much to the point she was figthing with hes relative bc of himmm. And how she got instant relief when the emperor said that he hasnt slept with anyone at all. Lol that was cute
are we talking about the one that sexually assaults the current emperor? if so, it’s not love. she’s obsessed with obtaining him because he isn’t interested in her, he loves the ML’s mom. the reason she felt relieved when the ML said that is because, to her, the emperor is her property. what they have is NOT love. it’s toxic. she is a serial rapist. please do not idealize their relationship.
Girl it was a trade. The emperor did give consent, albeit somewhat forced (cause he didnt like the idea of it but he had to cause he needed the help, and he benefited from it) so dont say it was rape. life isnt always fair.
Oh wait wow. Hahahah. Spoiler
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said emperor ran away with a male knight. And empress trapped by riri in a somewhat toxic relationship too oh wow oh wow.
« he did give consent, albeit somewhat forced »… so you mean to say that he didn’t give consent? you do know that consent under coercion isn’t consent right…? consent is enthusiastic and given without pressure, what happened to him was anything but which would constitute as rape. yeah, life isn’t always fair, but how is that a justification for sexual assault?
Pretty sure he was the one that needed something from the empress so I dont really see whats wrong with her stating her own demands.
And saying that she is a rpst is so wrong in so many levels. They had a deal. He was not forced by the empress to do it. He did it on his own in exchange for something he needed. Sure she is toxic and obsessive but that doesnt mean she is a rpst. Maybe on other chapters but for the ones in current chapter she’s not.
ain’t no way bro is defending a rapist. crazy part is, you aren’t denying that he was coerced into agreeing to this arrangement. which quite literally means that is WAS NOT consenting BECAUSE he was coerced and left without any other option.
if she’s not a rapist, what is she? you’re not denying that she has raped him before in earlier chapters and your primary argument here is that it’s okay because it’s a deal. you also say that the emperor isn’t forced to do it when, if we read the same chapter, you would see that he IS because she would take back all the help she gave him if she doesn’t get to have sex with him whenever she wants (she’s also stated this before). she has also leveraged harm to the male lead, someone the emperor would die for, in order to get him to submit to her demands.
dawg, your arguments do not stand on its own. you’re defending a rapist. plain and simple. it’s odd because you somehow can’t see past the whole « deal » aspect to truly dissect the text. this is NOT okay and i’m sure if you were in his situation you would feel hopeless just as he does.
Tell the emperor to dont do shady deals in first place. Just lose everything from the get go if u gonna play victim after. A deal is a deal. Its like u saying someone is a thief if the other person doing the deal demands for all your fortune in exchange of support/protection. I just dont get it. Im not pro rpe or wtvr but if hes gonna whine about the choices he made, why put yourself there in the first place? Even the fl know that he's handling his personal problems shitly. He cares but go in an aggressive and self destructive way to express himself. No wonder he's stuck in a shit rel. Anndddd i still dont see the empress as rpst. She's twisted but def not a rpist yet (based on recent chaps okay bro?).
A deal is a deal? Bro the empress is a rapist.
wasn’t there literally a panel of him crying after they had sex? didn’t she literally force him to kiss her? he literally dosent like her she’s obviously his rapist, he just can’t leave
Girl... stand up. She's a rpist. Plain and simple. Just because they have a "deal" DOES NOT MEAN HE GAVE CONSENT??? Y'all wouldn't hold up this attitude if the Empress was a man and the emperor was female. Omfg..
A deal implies an equal exchange of two willing parties. That is not what is happening here. He has no choice but to be raped by her repeatedly because he has no power in this relationship. He has to protect his brother and the only way to do that is through her. This is classic power imbalance and rape. I know this is a fictional story, but I need you to know that in real life, this is rape. No question, no doubt. You cannot go about in your real life thinking this is okay because its not. If you like her character and enjoy that they have a fucked up relationship, thats your choice, but don't justify rape because fiction is a reflection of reality and male rape is already so under-acknowledged in real life and to then do the same thing in fiction is gross. Like you are going through hoops to justify that this isn't rape, but it is. I hope you understand that. It would be like if a ceo had sex with his secretary and told her she would be fired if she refused and she needed the money to feed her family. That is rape through coercion. She cannot consent. If you want a fucked up obsessive female character in power find one who isnt a rapist. Here she exists to be representation of male rape and this story is handling it very seriously, so to uwu-ify her or girl bossify her is quite disgusting.
a deal made under DURESS. the deal they made doesn’t exemplify her actions, rape is still rape regardless of whatever deal they have in place.. and you can still be raped by your partner. just because you don’t wanna acknowledge it for what it is doesn’t make her any less a rapist as she’s taking full advantage of him
Oh wow, hello friends of commenter, welcome to my channel(topic really). Ya’ll can say waterver u want to say and defend the emperor for all I care. Even if the genders were reversed, id still think of it as unfair to say it was rpe. A deal is a deal, id hate to be the one to give and not receive what I want in return. Also they are both adults, they can think for themselves and decide whether something is good for them or no.
Besides this is fictional story so calm your tatas. Even if this were to happen to me irl and choose to do what the emperor did (sacrifice myself for some greater good or something), id complain but still suck it up cause it was the results of my poor choices in life. Thought if it were me, id still find a way to see things in better light. Which the emperor cannot do bc he’s so traumatized by all the females she met in his life, have a relationship problem with his beloved brother and other shits that makes him weak. I understand all that. All im saying is that its is unfair to call it rpe. It was a deal and the emperor got the short end of the stick that’s all. Am i arguing with kids? my gad.
(But hey yall are welcome to leave a comments and hate, you all have voices and opinion of your own lol)
You say we are acting like kids when it seems you are the kid here who doesnt understand fiction is a reflection of reality and in reality what she is doing is rape. You seem to have a very narrow definition of what rape is but in the real world your definition is wrong. Legally, what she is doing is rape in most western countries and probably other countries (although I can't speak for them since I don't know their laws). Like you keep saying its unfair to call it rape but thats the textbook definition of coercive rape. Both being adults doesn't change that fact nor does the fact that they made a deal change anything.
And to be even more specific, the deal they made was that if he married her, she would gain full power as empress, not that she would get unlimited access to sexually assault him whenever she wanted. Like I just don't understand how you cannot comprehend that that is rape. Or even how you cannot understand she is disgusting for wanting that. You at one point in this thread said that its because she is allowed to get what she needs/wants from this deal but why the fuck does she need to rape someone to obtain sex?
If she wanted it specifically from him, she could instead make him fall in love with her first or if she just wants sex in general she can get it consensually from someone who wants to sleep with her. Instead she chooses the one guy who doesn't want it to the point of crying and disassociating during sex because he is being raped.
You say he is traumatized and weak and thats why he doesn't want this, but thats what rape does. Like he is traumatized and unable to fight back because he is so used to being raped at this point. He mentally and physically detests this so no matter what deal he made, if his body and mind rejects what is happening to him, THEN HE IS BEING RAPED. Like it's not unfair to acknowledge the truth of the situation that the author THEMSELVES is presenting. I don't understand how media literacy can be so dead. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you just really liked the character of the empress but my god you are brain dead
if i make a deal saying “you get a job but you have to have sex with me” that is rape. specifically for sex, consent has to be given without any external factors. that’s the biggest thing, so consent has to be offered without manipulation. there is no such thing as rape without consent, sex without consent is rape. being coerced into sex is rape. i don’t think there’s a point in arguing fiction vs reality because you literally do not understand the definition of consent, you can literally look this shit up. even in law, if sex has coercion then it’s rape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_consent_in_law
https://www.ashasexualhealth.org/understanding-consent/
i’m not even arguing fiction vs reality your definition of rape is wrong, if you’re coerced into sex it’s rape
if you lack knowledge on a topic why open your mouth? why add your two cents if you don’t actually understand something and then berate everyone else for correcting you? If you are COERCED into sexual relations or sexual relations is the “trade” off, that is still classified as rape and legally that would not change. it is one thing to read ABOUT rape it is another to actively support someone who IS a rapist. which is precisely what you’re doing, which is why everyone is so disgusted by your comment. to watch another person honestly believe this woman didn’t do a goddamn thing wrong is another addition to the populace that would look at a victim of rape and turn a blind eye bc in your head you don’t believe that it counted as rape even though every law, every definition would tell you otherwise. it’s not “hate” it’s the truth. you’re an idiot. no amount of explaining could salvage that immature mind of yours.
if a little girl was being held at gun point, and the man said “if you let me fuck i’ll free you”, by your standards and by your words it wouldn’t count as rape because she agreed, in return for her life.
*enjoying garrett popcorn* oh and i aint opening my mouth. Am justing typing away wtever i want. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
7/10 rage bait
Shhh. Let them be grab a popcorn too.
I want a redemption side story for lerryyyyy, give lerry any of the sib (the male is preferable )
But damn i love it so much HAHAHAHAH good fap material.
KILL YOURSELF
You go ahead and wait for me. idk why u guys hating when u still reading even tho its trash. Hypocrites.
*LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
guilty?
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Guys where in the novel does the current chapter takes place? I found the chapters relating to this traing with elders but the scene where Virion said the twin horns were attacked is no where to he found lol. Now im at the part where he is sparring with lance varray but still no scene of the twin horns.
SEND HALP
If im not mistaken the most recent chapter is mostly webtoon only content.
And no they still aint fcking. There’s a flashback, prolly around chapter 41-42 they will fck. Im excited tho tbh.
this manhwa makes good and hot smx scenes.
Its good in a way that its not over the top, the tension is there, its starts slowly then gradually picks up the pace, you get what I mean? And its hot in a way how the seme is forceful but also in a consensual way. I also find it so hot how touchy feely he can be. Hahahaha
And this is a pov of a someone who likes to be manheld. So all you popo feeble brittle af flowers dont come at me.
Kill that toothpast bich. Flush her in the toilet so that we’ll never ever see her again. Lololol
Down with fluoride (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Jaekyung why second doubt? U still like it right? Couldnt resist pounding despite his sickness. Why not stay true to your chatacter? Your making this way too predictable.
Was smilling the whole time when it was noona and jiwoo only. BUUUUUTTTTT WER DEM CLASH AT?? Give us the cliche part were noona and toothpaste bich clash.
Toothpaste bitch XD I love it
Lol (≧∀≦) You killed me with toothpaste bitch
Did they change the artist? Its been a while since I read this.