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I meant to like but i accidentally hit the dislike button sorryyydjjd

baby secretary is such a good name for him hahahaha
but baby secretary isnt baby if he condones corruption

I know right

This will happen in the next season but :')))) we have to wait

╥﹏╥ every time this updates I'm like daeshik? And when the update is bby jihyun n yohan n I'm like

Hostage? Do you just skim through the chapters? Hostage is when you’re taken by FORCE and the kidnapper’s conditions for that hostage to be freed pending.

Suha clearly stated he will stay w Jiwoon until he feels comfortable. The real danger is out there, the red head who nearly raped Suha 2 or more times, why wouldn’t his lover protect him?

Of course Jiwoon still has to let Suha know the situation and that he trapped Suha home for a while. I’m sure it won’t be permanent because something gotta move the plot progress.

Jiwoon clearly has no bad intentions so where did you get hostage from? Sure what he’s doing is wrong, that’s why I’m saying Jiwoon should let Suha know.

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Exactly! People need to understand the difference between getting in danger and staying out of danger

Many people have too much pride or ego to admit I assume even if they understand. And those who don’t should try to understand. Thank you.

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(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ You are welcome! Just trying to get the facts out

you're spittin' facts and i love it

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You know what, you're right. I'll amend, Suha is a prisoner. still don't know how he's not seeing it. With the history he's had, this obsession should have been one massive, red flag. Instead he has Stockholm. as the readers we all suspect jiwoon will eventually get his shit together. Suha is not privy to that. He is isolated and If I were in his shoes I'd run before I got locked in the damn basement.

You’re making this deeper than it is. He doesn’t have Stockholm syndrome nor a prisoner, he’s trapped that is.
Suha hasn’t been locked in the basement, Jiwoon isn’t abusive for now at least. Let’s see

God help the asshat that steals my phone simply to spy on my conversations, invades my privacy, emotionally manipulates me into staying by his side, especially after getting raped, and keeps me isolated in his house for days on end. Yeah, Jiwoon is clearly not a danger to Suha.

He’s not dangerous. What he’s doing is toxic but not dangerous severe level.
He didn’t manipulate, he clearly told Suha how he felt, his feelings are valid.

Jiwoon was drugged and nearly raped by two men so what are you talking about? Suha wasn’t raped? He went with the red tampon head by consent. It hasn’t been days.

So yeah Jiwoon isn’t a dangerous man.

Suha has been attacked and raped by the used tampon multiple times. He has his own baggage. It is NOT Suha's responsibility to deal with Jiwoons obssesion. Not his issues, not his insecurities, not anyone's else's trauma. Suha does not have be locked in a house, away from friends, family, or whoever the hell he wants to see, simply because Jiwoon can't handle his insecurities.

Suha was given an ultimatum, leave with the red head or watch Jiwoon get hurt. You call this consent? Is this your idea of consent? You dont consider this manilulation? like at all?

Suha was then jumped by Jiwoon, who despite being drugged and unaware of his condition, still forced himself on a man that has been TRIGGERED by this whole ordeal. And although venting your feelings is never wrong, everything he has done after the fact is. Suha is being EMOTIONALLY manipulated by Jiwoon into staying. As if the one and only support Suha will ever get is from Jiwoon. This is manipulation hon. Through and through.

And Lastly, you do see how Jiwoon is escalating right? How far does Jiwoon need to get before he's actually dangerous? Why not run now. Why tolerate this toxicity to begin with.

Yes tampon head did threaten Suha but if Suha could defend himself, why didn’t he do so? Cause Suha bit tampon head and ran away. Why didn’t he do that in the first place? HE DID GIVE CONSENT IN A WAY even though he was threatened. Suha gave in.

Suha thinks Juwoon is weak but he isn’t. Jiwoon was nearly raped and drugged regardless if Suha went with Red head or not, Suha didn’t even consider to think that could happen before going with the red head.

No helping your lover isn’t your responsibility but what’s the point of being in a relationship if you can’t help your beloved lover’s mental issues? Mental issues isn’t a joke nor is small deal, Jiwoon has been there for Suha many times, now all I’m saying is Suha needs to be there for Jiwoon during these moments before Jiwoon becomes any more toxic.

“ Suha was then jumped by Jiwoon, who despite being drugged and unaware of his condition, still forced himself on a man that has been TRIGGERED by this whole ordeal. ”

So you don’t care that he’s drugged and unaware? Sure what he did wasn’t right but as you said, Jiwoon was not aware at all so you can’t really blame him. Jiwoon is the one who’s triggered the most here, leading to his trauma being triggered.

Suha makes it seem like everything is okay even after all that happened, he seems so casual about it and still wants to go to work place where the red head who as you stated “nearly raped” him. And you’re okay with that?

“ Suha is being EMOTIONALLY manipulated by Jiwoon into staying. As if the one and only support Suha will ever get is from Jiwoon.”

In a way you’re right but also not because Jiwoon stated his actual feelings about feeling anxious and uncomfortable, he didn’t lie. So if someone feels negatively and shares with his partner about it, that’s manipulation already? No. Everyone is allowed to share your feelings, it’s not manipulation. Suha stayed because he understood how Jiwoon felt. He stayed by will. All is that he doesn’t know Jiwoon locked him.


“ And Lastly, you do see how Jiwoon is escalating right? How far does Jiwoon need to get before he's actually dangerous? Why not run now. Why tolerate this toxicity to begin with”

You clearly do not understand love and it’s fine because I will explain why I say what I say. I do see how Jiwoon is escalating in behavior and thought process, but he’s not dangerous. He never harmed Suha, wasn’t aggressive with Suha and by that I mean beating someone up, no insults or derogatory terms towards Suha.

You say it like you want Jiwoon to be more toxic so he can be dangerous enough for Suha to run.

Tolerating is very important. Would you physically hurt your child or abandon your child because your child is crying loudly or would you tolerate it because you know that’s your child and-because you know you love your child?

Jiwoon needs someone to be there for him. Like genuinely nobody seems to care about him in the BL except for Suha. His childhood was shit, he felt abandoned and was abandoned mentally/physically. The one who’s suffering the most here is Jiwoon, mentally.

Suha is gonna suffer indeed if Jiwoon continues to be toxic and then become more toxic. But do give the benefit of doubt that Jiwoon will become crazy crazy, cause we will never know until author uploads new chapters for us to find out.

You’re in a strong relationship because of true love. Both Suha and Jiwoon love each other a lot, Suha understood Jiwoon a bit when Jiwoon shared his feelings. For me in my relationsup, I was struggling mentally and physically as well. T/W:

I was self harming in secret, I couldn’t even share or express my feelings to my family because we weren’t close at all. I would cling onto my partner a lot and ask where they were a lot, I would miss our dates sometimes due to mood swings, etc. It was unhealthy yes, and I had no one close except for my partner, and my partner understood. We both had a serious discussion and that I should trust them more and I tried.

I also used to think running away was one of the few good solutions but my partner taught me running away won’t solve anything. Communication is key, and my partner’s words still lingers in my mind when discussing this type of topic.

And that if I become too toxic even after talking it out, my partner said they would’ve broken up with me because I couldn’t understood that they wanted to be trusted and given space as well.

So Suha indeed deserves his space and more trust from Jiwoon. He’s too nice sometimes, he lets go of some things especially when Jiwoon obviously showed something wasn’t right w him. Suha should’ve realized something was up. But maybe it’ll take time for the plot.

Suha also seems to be not too aware of what might happen if he goes to his workplace, why go to workplace that has his rapist/person who threatened him there?

It’s so messy but hopefully they work things out. Suha needs his phone back yes and his freedom as well, a person dealing w trauma won’t stop dealing w trauma unless someone realizes and helps. That’s my main point.

Forgot to mention, Suha indeed has his own baggage but if we don’t resolve w Jiwoon first; more baggage to carry no?

I usually don’t like engaging in these types of conversations cuz I don’t have a wide grasp of it but hello?? Are you seriously coming at jiwoon for being fucking drugged and out of his mind?? he absolutely did not intentionally jump suha, and when he came to his senses he felt so bad he stayed outside the whole day in the cold and CRIED. you’re fucking sick of you think it’s jiwoon’s fault with what happened that night

Thank you!! Gosh I’m pretty sure they’re too petty to admit. Jiwoon obviously didn’t do it on purpose. If we should get mad at anyone and be talking trash about, it’s the red head tampon bitch.

YEAH!! I hate that everyone’s turning the blame on jiwoon it irritates me so much. I haven’t even experienced any serious trauma but hello like it literally takes 5 brain cells to figure out that jiwoon is not the problem here

Damn you’re basically saying they don’t use their brain . And yes I h8 too that everyone is blaming Jiwoon as a whole, one even saying he could be born mentally ill / calling him a psychopath (invalid because psychos don’t feel emotions but Jiwoon does), etc.
I feel like those who don’t understand are kids/younger than me.