Incoming triggered 14 year old girls getting upset and calling this rape.
I'm just wondering what they'll react on actual "hardcore" ones... first of all why do these minors even come here lol
True!!!! minors are literally everywhere in R18 manhwa, if they would complain then they should just leave here since they are minor.┐(￣ヘ￣)┌
Yup乁 ˘ o ˘ ㄏ
Frrr it’s always minors
What would you call this then?
It’s more of dubcon but not rape cause he realizes he’s having sex and he’s going along w it himself (the bottom, I mean. We got a bit of his pov) but he’s just not doing it with the person he thinks he is.
So I’d say it’s more dubcon and even that is not even bc of the sex but more of the fact that the bottom didn’t want to be near the top and yet he’s having sex w him while drunk
(Idk if this makes much sense but yeah I don’t think it’s rape)
" He realizes he’s having sex and he’s going along w it himself (the bottom, I mean. We got a bit of his pov) but he’s just not doing it with the person he thinks he is."
That is rape.
“unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.“ the bottom went to the bar FULLY aware he wanted to have sex. He’s going along with having sex as we can see from his thoughts. At no point was he ever against the action of sex ESPECIALLY since that was his main goal in the first place other than when he was at the bar and everyone was ugly to him so he didn’t want any of them.
Like I said, this is more of dubious consent because he’s hasn’t realized he’s having sex w the top but it’s not like he’s against having sex in general.
I will be the first person to say that the top is not right in his actions nor am I supporting him having sex w someone who is both drunk and didn’t want to be near him before BUT I am saying that the bottom is not being raped because he was consenting to sex before going to the bar, while in the bar (he was pretty willing to go home w someone be found handsome), and even now at home (this is where I believe the dubcon plays part)
The amount of tramua this boy is in, from the abuse to his brother, just for the seme to say "I love you" and he break down, it's so upsetting. He truly just wants someone to legitimately love him because not even his mother has.
There's a reason why he's acting possessive because of everything that has happened. If you guys are going to drop this manga because you don't get why he's being like this or how it came to this then you really haven't been reading this manga properly. People act like the way they do for a reason. Stop ignoring the trauma he went through for the sake of being toxic yourselves. Thank you
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I guess everyone in the comments calling the uke stupid has never heard or been in a situation which your peered pressured into because your socially awkward.
The director really needs some therapy. I feel so bad for him. There's more that get revealed about his childhood and it doesn't look good. I just want him to get the help he needs.
All anyone talks about is taku taku taku lol. There's other characters ya know
Ikr it's hella annoying
The amount of people on this ILLEGAL site calling this manga trash is crazy. Imagine if the author saw your comments, and then stopped writing. You can dislike the manga and drop it, but you shouldn't downright call this manga trash. Your insulting the authors work when you do that and everyone knows that most of these people complaining don't even buy the chapters on lezhin. Please grow up and respect people. Thank you.
Exactly, thank you queen for saying this
Everyone trashing the seme in the previous chapters then all the sudden everyone is excited to see them do switch. Y'all really turn quick don't y'all.
What blows my mind is how people are so quick to call something rape when it's not. I'm not sure what it means to you guys, but it literally means any type of forced sexual assault. They were both drunk here. The uke starts kissing and the seme continues. Not once did the uke say stop. Also they are both drunk!!!!!! Stop saying stuff is rape when it's not, so fucking annoying
The uke is barely even conscious, are you ignoring this on purpose? It's one thing to kiss someone without their consent (still not ok) and it's another to decide to penetrate someone who don't even know if they're awake or not.
Okay so by your words they're both at fault then, so the uke sexually assaulted the seme. If your going to fault one, fault both.
They literally just told you that what the uke did wasn't ok, are you dumb?
Literally.. like are they even reading what I said or are they just pretending ???
I'm replying to multiple replies. I didn't read yours fully. But you know people make mistakes instead of calling them dumb. Lol but whatever.
The more the snowflakes drop this because of the "rape" the better. (づ￣ ³￣)づ
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Lmao fr
You better not talk abt ppl who points out rape snowflakes.die
STFU NAD JUST GET OUT OF HERE
No?
It wasn't rape. Stop tossing that word out when you don't know the meaning
Bitch rape is when a person is being sexually harrassed without their consent, the top clearly knows the bottom is drunk and the bottom don't know its him.He should never fuck a drunk person and you calling ppl snowflakes for pointing that out makes it worse dumb fuck. Maybe you're the one who needs to be educated
BITCH THAT ISN'T RAPE! HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE UKE WENT TO THAT FCKING BAR TO GET LAID REGARDLESS OF WHO IT IS! TF!?
The bottom didint gave him his consent and the top should cntrl himself since the bottom is drunk. Are you seriously siding with a rapist?
You act like people can't have drunk sex lol
Lmao frrr
Ppl can't unless the ones being fucked has given consent to the ones who was fucking. Dumbass
You prolly fetishize bl relationships
ya'll clearly too young or too fucking stupid to be here.
if you literally do not have the braincells to even realize what the point of a comment section is or what literal rape is, ya'll are the problem. fucking disgusting.
Finally a person with common sense
Are you trolling? Uke went to the bar to get drunk and fuck someone good looking, then he went home with the seme? I think your the one that doesn't understand the definition of rape. Also I never called you bad words so don't call me ones. I always respect others opinions even if they don't mirrior mine. You should learn to do the same.
Gurl you're clearly the stupid one?
Gurl learning the word fetishizing again and tossing it anywhere tf? HAHAHAHAHA
How did you ended up in that conclusion gurl? Pls explain? Where and when did we ever made you think that we are fetishizing bl relationship? Where?
And gurl fyi I'm an adult
And the irony of you telling us to USE our brain when clearly you're the one who's not using it properly
If that's all you have to say, then it just proves my point. You couldn't even say anything to counter what I said in the previous message. I'm not saying your opinion is invalidated, but please respect others opinions.
And we are back to square one lol
And the irony of you telling us to USE our brain when clearly you're the one who's not using it properly
yikes that's even worse
how gross that you're victim blaming at your age
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA now I'm victim blaming? Where? When? Omg? Are you really stupid? LOL
this isn't a matter of opinion, you're literally just wrong. it's against the law, and you're victim blaming, and it's fucking disgusting. people have tried telling you as SIMPLY as possible, yet you just refuse to even listen, you just repeat the same shit over and over again
its. against. the. law. its. rape.
act stupid, you'll get treated stupid. i hope to god no one is influenced by people like ya'll.
y i k e s how gross
Uke went to the bar to meet someone to get over Hajun. It did heavily insinuate he wanted a one night stand.
He rejected multiple people before eventually he was extremely drunk and was in the right mind to consent.
Hajun stops him from going with dude who resembled him and takes him home instead. Uke is trashed still when he regains consciousness. He is not in the right mind, meaning he cannot give consent.
No consent = rape.
‘But he went to a bar to get fucked’ — and? Consent can change. With that logic, any of the guys he rejected could have come back when he was to drunk to think straight and suddenly have ‘consent’. Even if you’re in the middle of sex, if the other person wants to stop, you need to stop. They are no longer giving consent at that point and continuing is rape. No consent is rape, whether vocal or not.
This is a pretty common trope in bl, but the arguments on this particular story are unbelievable. It literally doesn’t matter why he went to that bar. That’s the same baseless argument as ‘they were asking for it’ when women dress in anything that could be considered provocative.
IF you want to argue about the possibility that this isn’t rape, the main question is “would he be doing this if he was sober?”, which, from what we know so far, is more likely to be no— but that could be circumstantial. We won’t have a clearer perspective until it’s addressed through the uke’s thoughts/feelings (if it’s even addressed at all).
You can say he "clearly gave his consent" but he clearly didn't. There's a big difference between having some drinks and being tipsy/moderately drunk but still mostly aware, and being so drunk you 1. pass out 2. can't even make your way home 3. have no idea what's going on.
And if you wanna push further anyway, saying that him saying he wants to have sex while he's still clearly so out of it he doesn't even know who's in front of him, it's still considered rape because he is NOT consenting to HAJUN. He doesn't know that it's Hajun, he thinks it's the other guy.
Lol can't even answer me now? HAHAHAHAHA where and when did i start victim blaming? Goodness HAHAHAHA
" hE wENt tO tHE BaR tO gET fUcKed bY anYOnE"
not true, and not relevant. you're victim blaming him for being taken advantage of when he didn't know what was going on
Gurl just read it again and see it in that perspective! What you are doing right now is making too many scenarios that didn't happened in there. Yes what you are saying is true if and IF those scenarios that you have mentioned really happened, then that would really be the worst for the uke but it didn't happened like that. What i wanted you to see is what really did happen . Uke went home seeing a person who looks like hajun but it ended being hajun himself They went to a hotel. Uke woke up and making a move on the seme even asking him of having sex. Then the seme resisted but still the uke wanted it anyway and they ended up doing the deed. Then let me change it this way uke went home with a stranger with the same hair as hajun then uke still did the same thing with that stranger seduced him and stuff again, did you really think that any person who went to that bar would not think that they will not get laid at even if they are drunk ? Of course they will do it because that's the purpose of him going in there okay? Don't make too many scenarios and just focused there.
TF you're saying ? HAHAHAHAHA omg gurl just make your imagination fly away
i mean he literally wanted a one night stand. He didnt care, what are you going on about.
AND LET ME TELL YOU AGAIN HE CLEARLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON why? Because even without knowing that the guy he's with is the seme he still seduced him meaning regardless of who it was he still seduced him
Right. What she's doing right now is making too many scenarios that didn't even happened. What i wanted to say is that we should focused on what happened not the things that clearly didn't happened.
you act like drunk people cant have sex? like he wanted to fuck and didn't care who it was. Thankfully it was the seme and not some perverted weirdo.
oh my god ya'll are stupid. keep making excuses. he was too drunk, he didn't know who he was with, and he was taken advantage of. the bar doesn't matter. once he was that fucking trashed, he wasn't able to consent, and he never once consented to Hajun. quit ignoring everything that happened to try and validate your twisted bs and victim blame.
can't fix stupid, and i'm done trying. bye
And i qoute "Uke went to the bar to meet someone to get over Hajun. It did heavily insinuate he wanted a one night stand.
He rejected multiple people before eventually he was extremely drunk and was in the right mind to consent.
Hajun stops him from going with dude who resembled him and takes him home instead. Uke is trashed still when he regains consciousness. He is not in the right mind, meaning he cannot give consent " then let me add it for you UKE woke up and see the guy it was blurry but still he's with someone then he initiate first with a kiss then proceeds to seducing him and then they did the deed " now let's just focused on here don't make up scenarios .That's our point. if the uke woke up the next morning and find hajun in bed for sure he will regret it but if uke found someone in bed and it's not hajun I'm pretty sure he's just going to brushed it off and move on cause he knows that he wanted it.
Let me throw it back at you
CAN'T FIX STUPID, AND I'M DONE TRYING. BYEEEEE
What I'm giving you an opinion
he woke up and was still not in the right mind to consent. even if he COULD consent, he wasn't consenting to Hajun, it literally says he thinks it was the last guy in the bar to approach him. which proves he still isn't even aware enough to consent. he couldn't even stand on his own lmfao.
you're so close to getting it, just stop jumping to defend it. you even said yourself he didn't want to do it with Hajun. Hajun was aware he didn't know but proceeded. that's rape dude