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im confused on why the story would be pointless if Joowon's and Haesoo's character development has pointed to this ending from the start. like the story was set up for this, and hinted at throughout. seems to me like it would be pointless if it ended any other way when this has had so much build up.

it would be pointless when they went through all of this only to literally go back to the same place. It makes no sense

LoL they can start over as new people? It would be pointless if they got back together as the same person they were in the early chapters but they both grew.

it would be pointless to go through all of this only to end up back together. It would be so much better if they didn’t and Haesoo actually grow to love himself instead

but... they arnt going back to the same place. both of them have had a lot of character development and realized that they both made mistakes. both Joowon and Haesoo are different people from who they were at the beginning of the story and even after going through all this shit they still love each other. that's the whole point.

Bruh it’s not like he can’t love himself while starting fresh with Joowon? The whole point of this story is to grow and they did. Whatever they do afterwards is another thing. They had their development, that’s the whole point of the story. They aren’t the same toxic people they used to be.

Haesoo’s whole point was for them to be like normal brothers. Not only would that completely contradict himself but it would still be like Joowon said before that Haesoo does in fact always come back to him. Haesoo is damn near dependent on Joowon and for him to not end up with him and actually learn self love instead would be so much better.

bruh and I’m saying it would be a better ending if he actually grew by himself learning to love himself given that he’s damn near dependent on Joowon. Idk why y’all have such a problem with that

actually Haesoo's point was that if he couldn't have the relationship he wanted with Joowon (aka official lovers) then it would have been better if they had never started this relationship and stayed as just brothers. But now with their character development a relationship as proper lovers is possible.
and yes, Joowon did say that, but that was one of his character flaws that he has grown out of which is explicitly addressed in this ch. Joowon was too arrogant with Haesoo and thought he would never lose him, but he now realizes how wrong he was for thinking that and no longer thinks that way. that is a part of his character development.
Haesoo has never been dependent on Joowon, in fact I think it was the other way around, Joowon was just too arrogant to admit it.
you can think what you want, I jus think you are misinterpreting the story and not fully comprehending the full lead up to this point.

oh I didn't mean to seem like I have a problem with that, I just disagree. I don't think its bad for people to grown on their own, I simply do not think it is needed in the context of this story.

Haesoo was never dependant on Joowon. It was Joowon who was overly dependant on Haesoo. Haesoo’s problem is that he blames EVERYTHING on Joowon and thinks that everything that’s going on between them is WRONG because of his mother. They were “brothers” for barely 3 years, they grew to like each other as unrelated teens but he wanted to “keep being brothers” because he convinced himself that it is disgusting and wrong, when it’s not. The toxicity of their relationship came from BOTH of them but throughout the first half of the series Haesoo has always blamed it on Joowon, make narratives for Joowon and speaking over his thoughts/actions. Thus why readers are led to believe that Joowon is the toxic and manipulative one in the relationship, when it was all in Haesoo’s own mind. He self victimized himself in their relationship and thought that it would feel good if Joowon is to take all the blame because he had always felt inferior to him. But now he realized that he was wrong too and everything happened because of BOTH HIM AND JOOWON.

That’s his development.

you say Haesoo was never dependent when literally throughout the whole story he was. No matter what Haesoo’s feelings pretty much revolved around Joowon. Even Taku said it when they were together. Haesoo is very much dependent on Joowon and it would make sense if he actually grew out of that. Just bc he wasn’t so in his face like Joowon Haesoo was dependent on him. But whatevs think what ya want !

I— Haesoo’s whole character revolved around Joowon everything he did was dependency on Joowon. And we literally seen Joowon be toxic as hell towards Haesoo there was no self victimizing Joowon was toxic as hell and yeah it was wrong for them to be together (I’m not explaining that to you) but honey go off this is hilarious

You’re hilarious. I literally just explained how we readers are led to believe by Haesoo’s narrative of talking over Joowon’s thoughts and actions and you just proved my point.

Love how none of your points ever correlates to the events of the chapter but you’re just speaking from what you feel. That’s just shows how much you missed the point of the story.

Love I correlated what I said literally throughout the comments if you don’t see it then you missed the point. You’re upset bc I think it would be pointless to actually go back to joowon or any relationship which I’ve said like several times throughout idk why you’re so upset about me not wanting him to actually be in a relationship but keep talking in the endless circles you’re doing

okay love you’re upset I don’t see the point in Haesoo being in a relationship in the end. Never said he wasn’t toxic you said he self victimized himself which he didn’t not you pretending like he wasn’t completely toxic throughout but go on and continue screaming

Why would it be pointless if they both start as new people? We’re literally just explaining that they have grown and IT’S OKAY FOR THEM TO START OVER but you just seemed to be stuck in S1. People were so quick to support his “new love” with Taku when he’s still the same as he was and haven’t opened his eyes but when Haesoo and Joowon finally gets a development suddenly y’all think it’s “pointless”? Relationships can have ups and downs and people are allowed to restart.

Haesoo is self victimizing himself when Joowon is also a victim of his & his mother’s constant slander but y’all don’t know want to talk about that. They’re both toxic and a victim of each other it’s just Haesoo sees that he’s the only victim in the relationship and Joowon doesn’t.

certainly Haesoo's feelings were influenced by Joowon, but he made all his decisions on his own. Haesoo was very much so focused on himself and what he thought would be best for him -- that's why he broke up with Joowon. the story actually already did a Haesoo self love portion. Haesoo's growth as an individual happens when he breaks up with Joowon (of course there is the lead up to that as well in which he has the self-realization that he can't get what he wants in his current relationship). then there is the aftermath where he even tells Taku that he isnt ready for a relationship which is like his height of self love, but Taku kinda ruins it by guilting him into dating. but while with Taku Haesoo continues to focus more on learning his own feelings rather than being an active participant in the relationship with Taku (which Taku notices ofc).

I read the raws so this might be a spoiler though I don't read Korean, its just my assumption based on the pictures.




it is through his inner journey that he comes to realize his feelings for Joowon, and that he doesnt want a relationship with just anyone.

ohhhh this getting mad toxic, forget I replied. this is a waste of time.

K