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I knooow! I felt like I was about to cry during this chapter ( T﹏T )
He really did nothing to deserve such pain, he might be dense and a bit of an ass at times, but he never hurt anyone! He’s also got a horrible family and upbringing, it just breaks my heart

i was like YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY

yeah, def a "no shit Sherlock" moment. but will they learn from it is the question

Actually no. Chanyoung is just doing it for his own benefit. I just wanna smash his smug face. Shrugs.

Oh... really? I guess I didn’t pick up on that. :(

yeah , hes always noticed that heesu's had feelings for him so he goes out w a lot of girls to try and push him away but it doesn't ork so hes just happy that he can divert his affection to someone else

Aw sorry! I think I took you as one of the many people who willfully ignore Chanyoung's faults and defend him in the face of all objections. You aren't one of them since you actually addressed my comment with sincerity. So I offer you my MANY apologies.

My many sincere apologies I should say! Because I am serious about those apologies.

I think he did that mainly because he didn't want Heesu to be wasting time on him if he doesn't like him anyways.

I think he's happy that Heesu now might have someone that actually likes him back.

I think Chanyoung is actually a goos friend, because usually in BL if thw straight beat friend finds about the crush, he gets grossed out and calls them disgusting.

Actually no. Read the post from youraedthiswrogn. It will show you exactly how he's cliched and selfish. He has no concern for what will happen if Heesu finds out as is usually the case. If he didn't want him wasting time on him a simple straightforward confrontation would have done the trick. And he was ready to pass Heesu off onto the other guy even before he had confirmed this guy had feelings for him. T.

Yes I understand what you mean. He knew since they were younger and he gets jealous when he sees his best friend talking to the guy that likes walking around naked at home.

At the end of the day tho that's just up to interpretation. I, like the writer of the og comment, just took it as him being a friend who didn't wanna force his friend to come out to him (which would make him a dickhead) and reveal his feelings at the same time. But you take it at him being selfish. It's interesting how people take things differently.

Okay so what I'm saying is that, if for example heesu decide to follow the both of them and hear the his best friend of 10years true feelings that he knew that heesu liked him for a long time. How do you think heesu who is very shy would feel. Heesu does not want his friend to date him but to acknowledge that he like him again heesu thinking that his best friend doesn't know his true feelings. To me if heesu finds out that his friend knew yet didn't say anything yes he would feel like crap he knew yet he said nothing for 10 fucking years. He will be hurt and both of them would lose their friendship and then what heesu suffers from losing his best friend and his crush.

No. It's not a matter of intetpretation. Again read what youraedthiswrogn said. Chanyoung tried to get Heesu and Seungwon together before he even knew Seungwon had feelings for Heesu PLUS he planned on distancing himself from Heesu even AFTER he found out that Heesu and Seungwon were becoming more friendly with each other. Thirdly, if Heesu finds out what he was doing (as usually happens, which might be especially true in this case as Chanyoung has not only mentioned something in passing to Seungwon but Seungwon also almost caught him eavesdropping on his and Jiyu's conversation, so what happens when he puts two and two together, which he just might given how intelligent he is) he'll be even more hurt than he would have if he had just confronted him. Finally when he first revealed how he knew about Heesu's feelings he never said anything about how he even THOUGHT of Heesu as a friend.

Or even how he was doing this to 'help' his friend. Not one word.

I completely agree

Thank you @Anonymous what you said was on point.

Just know that I am answering this without having read it all. Sato annoys the hell out of me and i just can't..but still am curious enough to read the comments. Going to where I stopped and your comment, even if her quality of life would decrease with her brother, she would still be free and not facing the danger of, in the future, be killed for not being an innocent child anymore. Besides, with her brother, she would be free. I may not have read all the chapters up until now, but if I remember well, Sato likes her innocence on top of all. But what when that innocence is gone? Will she be killed as well and Sato will just find another girl?
Her brother is still a child, but still her brother. I think that girl being free with her brother is much better than locked in a cage just because Sato likes her innocence.
But, again, I haven't read as much as the others when it comes to this manga. Would you be so kind as to give me an update as of why you think there is a reason that she should stay with sato?

Well, firstly, I don’t actually have an opinion one way or another. My point in my comment is arguments for both sides.

Sato seems to love Shio for more than her innocence. She has seen Shio experience things that take away her innocence and is happy as long as Shio loves her. I dunno where you get the impression Sato would kill Shio if she lost her innocence. I could only see her killing Shio if Shio stopped loving her- and even then, Sato has developed over the story. I don’t know if she could even kill her then.
The people we see who Sato has harmed or killed have all been bad people (abusers, rapists) or people who plan on taking Shio away from Sato.
Shio would be constantly in danger if she lived with her brother as well. She would be homeless, wouldn’t eat enough, and could easily be kidnapped again, perhaps by someone with much worse intentions. Her brother is a frequent victim of assault and lives on the street. He’s naïve and easily manipulated. She would be free and reunited with her brother, but likely live in extremely poor living and health condition.

The question I’m trying to pose is what’s better: living with Sato, her kidnapper who is a serial killer and psychopath, but who truly loves her and wants to protect her and won’t harm her in a very comfortable environment where she’s likely mostly safe, or being reunited with her family who also truly love her and want to protect her, but is homeless, frequently physically assaulted, and unable to properly take care of himself?
It’s a debate of being safe and happy, but ignorant, or being free, but unsafe.

I don’t think Sato would kill her for losing her innocence, she loves Shio for more than that.

Overall, I don’t know what’s better for Shio. You clearly feel very strongly that she’s better off free, and I think that’s fine. I just think one could make a good case for the other side as well, as I’ve tried to do, here.

I felt like Shio should stay with Sato too, when I watched the Anime in the meantime.
Btw, for me the Anime adaptation and the Manga are two whole different things. While the Manga shows the depth of each character and how they became who they are now (like Shio's mother), the Anime was even more disturbing by adding chilling music and creepy imagery. I was seriously scared of nothing when I watched it.