I used to read this when it first started coming out and left it alone to marinate, ik the plot pts of the main story. Can someone spoil on the epilogue, tiktok saidn to pretend it doesn't exist and i just wna know why
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the epilogue is about asher and aria's twin daughters coming from the future. The older one bliss wants to not be born to avoid Aria becoming sick when she gave birth. Eventually Lippie the younger twin comes and helps Asher and Aria find a cure for bliss who was born ill. Then they go back to the future now that they found a way to help Aria from being ill after giving birth. It's a happy ending with the whole family.
Crappy description but I would read it if you want a happy cute ending.
I changed my mind about liking this despite being a harem.
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Ive come to my senses. The pt of this story is that mc is an extreme scumbag. There's barely any redeeming quality. I feel sorry for the women he's intentionally manipulated down into a dark path, and the future women too. If scumbag mc is what you enjoy then this story is really solid, but the emotional manipulation(/highkey abuse) and gaslighting of these women is a lot, and it makes me sad because there are many being emotionally abused like this in real life. Especially the part where mc puts the gaslighting dial to the max when yandere clearly caught him having an affair. I read some novel spoilers and there's more of that treatment to come.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/16520835/
I still stand by what i said about the love interests being op and talented. But im not gonna glorify the MC's abuse anymore :,(
I don't get you, we all know mc is a irredeemable scumbag????? That's like his whole point, he's a bad person
Yeah, I'm really confused. I thought it would be obvious? From chapter one, we can see how he operates and works. He definitely has his own good qualities but he's not a good person. The thing about Hayan is it wasn't actually Kiyoung's fault. In fact, he just wanted a sibling like relationship but because of Hayan being incredibly attached to him and being obsessed with him, he used that to his own benefit
How did it take u so long to realize that, that makes kiyoung unique. Fist chap revealed his nature
I guess it's my fault for not being fully clear? In the link above (which was my first comment before this one) my main focus was the harem trope and how i liked how it was handled here. If you go back, i never *not* acknowledged that he's a scumbag, i knew what he was from the beginning, and I've had my fair share of scumbag/villain mcs that I've enjoyed so I'm not averse to the trope. In my first link, and ig in this comment as well, what i shldve stressed is the *harem* trope that im usually aversed too.
I tend to avoid most harem tropes because I'm a found family lover- with polygamy/polycules therefore being an offshoot of that- and it's really boring seeing a bunch of 1 dimensional characters (and that 1 dimension of their character usually being purely sexual) surrounding the mc who is doing interesting actions in the plot (and the love interests generally being a hindrance to the plot on top of that). I really enjoy this harem however because the characters themselves are really powerful and needed in the plot to make up for the mc being pitifully weak (at least in this start).
I continued reading the novel at the equivalent chapter after these ones, so i have my spoilers of how it can get, and ive also read plenty FMC stories where one of the antagonists wld be their narcissistic exbf who is a serial cheater, so with all these perspectives, my mind just cleared up that's all ┑(￣∇￣")┍. Even though ive enjoyed scumbag protagonists, this is my first time reading them in harems, and i just dont like seeing abuse in relationships, that's just my opinion? ╮(￣▽￣)╭ manipulate and sabotage other ppl xD
Also, about Hayan, don't say that it is not his 'fault' because he doesn't consider it a flaw, being dependent and attached to him is something he purposefully cultivated, the 'how' was just out of his expectations. Saying it's not his fault sounds like it absolves him of responsibility, when we all know very well that he finds their relationship now much more beneficial to him than what he intended, and there's a chapter in which he absolutely revels in it too.
I still like this story, very unique and compelling plot, with engaging characters, im just not glorifying it anymore. Simple enough...
Exactly, how she ended up wasn’t exactly his fault. He wanted her to depend on him, yes, but he didn’t want her to be dependent in THAT way. A part of the reason why Hayan ended up being like that is because her mental state was bad from the beginning and to her, Kiyoung was her light and savior. Kiyoung took advantage of that to get into a “sibling-like” relationship with her but that’s not what Hayan wanted. THAT isn’t his fault, that’s Hayan’s honest feelings. What is his fault is how he took advantage of those feelings to have a powerful pawn on his side.
I cannot believe i enjoyed a scummy protagonist x harem but i really did. Harem mcs and this mc both look at their mls/fls as objects, but the difference is other harem narratives tend to value the sexual fantasy of the fl/ml (i.e. big boob type, small boob type, loli-bait type, shota-bait type, tan skin type) which as a woman, feels tiring and dehumanizing to see that so saturated, where as this mc values the fls strengths, achievements, potential and the narrative genuinely makes them feel strong/OP. Their clothing isnt overtly sexual or overly revealing.. it's normal even.
And i even feel that if the girls didnt initiate it, he wld genuinely accept them as platonic allies as long as it guarantees his safety. He unfortunately (/fortunately) suffers from W Rizz and he's like a bard from dnd rolling a 20 in charisma to charm the dragon.
I can relate to.this comment to much
lol this is the perfect description!
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fax. usually I can't stand MCs with trash personalities. I usually drop after like 4~6 chapters. this, I'm genuinely enjoying
Also not only women his rizz work on guy too LMAOOOO
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... what if the 'masked trash' is lee kiyoung; in the previous timeline, hyunsung didn’t become close to lee kiyoung from the beginning or lee kiyoung didn’t interest hyunsoo much because in this timeline kiyoung is interested in hyunsung's regressor title and is banking on hyunsung's knowledge of future perks.
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Actually, he's is the masked man. But he's not gonna turn into him again in this lifetime
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I HOPE HYUNSUNG AND KIYOUNG CAN MAKE UP ╥﹏╥ i dont want any angst btwn them </3
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Yh he is but see , he doesn’t now that’ was him in his pass life, let’s hope his mans don’t find out t’hat it was him cause scammer man will be in trouble
I too have this theory, when you look at the mask, you can see at the side the hair, and on both sides it matches up with kiyoung so I thought the same lmao. I'm not reading the spoilers though I wanna see lol
The one time i actually want the side characters side story... EG the side characters from Cupid in the Rainbow Trap: I DO NOT CAREEEE!THEYRE SO BORINGGG and they're introduced as plot devices to stir up the main characters, throughout the main story i barely learnt surface level stuff about them (wowww they have the same coloured aura boohoo!)╥﹏╥
But these side characters have their own conflicts and goals, they have more interesting yet human reasons to stir up the main characters, and the chemistry is thereee. The foundation is all there for me to like them as characters on their own and it was sprinkled throughout the main story. I WANT MORE!!! GIVE ME MY ENEMIES TO FRENEMIES TO LOVERS ROMANCE!!
Where's the lil brown haired guy kneeling and asking to support the author from ?
I think this is the best dom/sub-verse ive ever read. The rest always have a touch of dubious consent (to non-con) when dom/sub has it's roots in bdsm, and proper bdsm play prioritizes explicit consent. This couple has honest, comfortable conversation with each other; are always checking in with each other and seeking feedback.
Guys i dont watch markiplier, what is the context of that child rubbing his face in his chest X,DD
It's his cousin or something if I'm remembering correctly he was just excited to see him
The reasoning for the major antagonist's, Grace (/Sellonia), whole devious plan is... really a dumb one: ... she's lazy.
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Summary from Turbostop (novelupdatesforum):
So Sellonia, knowing that she has happy future where she defeats demon king and gets all mls without anything bad happening to her, decided to:
- risk potentially injuring or losing her original body, when she's not in control of it.
- risk the not killing the demon lord (which did kinda happenned) and having all people that took part in subjugation dying, as well as whatever would've happened to the rest of the world after that.
- use some voodoo dark magic that not only could backfire on her, but would make both her and her family a lot of enemies once discovered.
All because she was lazy and didn't want to do it herself?
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I personally think it's the author that is lazy... The antagonist knows that she's in a novel. If you got isekaied as the MAIN CHARACTER, and YOU KNOW THAT EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT FOR YOU, what would compel you to use black magic to transfer your soul out of your own body so that someone else can do the hard work for you??? How is that even A THOUGHT in your head like how wld you even come to that conclusion? she knows that if she stayed in the fmc's body (which is hers!) she will be safe because her happy ending is guaranteed! The author cannot convince me that this is a normal thought process, that this is a reasonable justification...
The author tried to do this 'ooo yhhh complex! Ooo plot twist! Bet you didn't see that coming ;)' when a simple reason cldve worked just fine. How many isekai stories have we read where a fmc transmigrates into an extra and takes the ogML?? The author wanted to do something bigger than themselves but lacks the creativity to think of something actually shocking and complex. It just leaves me thinking that the antagonist is really fxxking dumb when an antagonist is supposed to be intimidating and a worthy opponent.
LITERALLY thank you for the spoiler! I literally figured out it was the OG female lead in that Grace character 5 chapters in. Literally the entire time I was thinking they got brainwashed somehow cause a read another story with a similar brainwashing plot and I dropped it cause like bruh what. I read up until chapter 9 then I just gave up and decided to look for spoilers and decide if I wanna read the revenge or not. And omg is this dumb. So her not wanting to do the subjugation and have the three ogML's go to her new body was smart because? I saw another spoiler say her father was part of the plan (which make sense when our FL was looking for information on grace and didn't get much info back because the father obviously interfered) and the end of the plan was to switch her back. So if She wanted to switch back wouldn't that be weird after "Grace" took the MLs??? Grace is literally engaged to Ian...What tf was the thought process? If she wanted to switch them, why tf wasn't it done immediately???? Why wait??? She was literally in a coma basically for 3 months. Do they need to recharge their magic or whatever?? Like you said, this antagonist is dumb af
thank u for the spoiler
you saved me a lot of time continuing to read this
also wanted to say yeah that’s such a half assed and weird reasoning for her to do that?? like if she was “lazy” why would she go the extra mile to summon someone to replace her and then go the extra mile to pretty much try to reclaim it all back like isn’t that doing the most?? rather than just going with the flow knowing life will be good for u? makes no sense. gotta have good logic…
wait seriously??? that’s her whole schtick?? that’s so dumb lmao… sigh i might not stick to this manhwa for the sake of the plot but just for the development of mc and ml’s relationship then sighhhh
Me too! I'm only here for the fl and ml. They so cute together!!
Just started ch 1, her type is my type XD