okay? and no one is forcing you to like their relationship or think that it’s healthy. you don’t have to be okay with it lmao. i was telling you that jooin never dwelt on having drunk sex with yahwi nor did he think of it as a defining of their relationship. if it’s normal or not ain’t my business since i have no say in the way a writer plots their story.
“forced him to have sex” fam, jooin was okay with it after yahwi promised he’d change things this time around. the next morning he didn’t give a crap anymore and they got along really well after that, so i’m pretty sure he didn’t have a problem with it but whatever. interpreting things is fine, but it literally goes against the way the main character felt and you can’t really change how he reacts to things since you know... this isn’t your story. if you don’t agree with how things are and think the story’s “dumb” then simply don’t read it since you cannot enjoy it.
and what change are you talking about? yahwi’s been shitty until the end he literally admitted that he only told jooin he likes him bc that’s what he wanted to hear, not to mention the other shit he’d said. no one’s asking you to be okay with it, that’s something you decided to say on your own lol
Am I the one delirious? Lord, help me. Then, what are you? You're the one looking for anything to tell me it's not rape. You can literally search on google right now whether having sex while intoxicated and not remembering anything is rape or not. Do it. I dare you and then come back here to tell me one more time that I'm wrong. What the hell does it have to do with Jooin being sexually attracted to Yahwi when he didn't consent to him having sex that night?
Also, I lost track of the replies and I just saw that this is the second time you've asked me this and I'm so done with this conversation that I'm going to do it quickly.
>> Intoxicated to the point that he is not himself and thinks he is dreaming + Not aware of himself (without real consent) + No memory of what happened = Rape
>> Tipsy + Able to say what he wants and what he does not + He is the one who pushes Jooin to have sex and Jooin accepts it = Not rape
Yeah, yeah I get it. But it's more about the moral. What if he hadn't been fine with it? I mean clearly he was interested but that gave him still no right to touch him while he was black out drunk? He didn't know 100% if he were fine with it at the end because there wasn't any consent giving. My problem was more that he actually tried doing that to someone before knowing they would have been okay with it. If it's rape or not that you can see for yourself however you want.
That's like saying people who are drunk can't ever have sex without it being "rape". That's just riduclous. I do think should never have sex with someone who is drunk as it's a huge risk, but it's totally up to the drunk person whether they considered it rape. You can't tell someone they were raped when they don't believe they were. And Jooin never considered it as such, which is why it was never addressed. So please let's move on.
It was rape because Jooin could not consent to having sex with Yahwi and Yahwi knew Jooin was drunk. Not only was Jooin drunk he was asleep. Later on in the story Jooin confronts Yahwi about this and Yahwi blames Jooin for not remembering and saying he should have saw it coming. Even if it isn’t considered r*pe (I think it is) it was still very fucked up of Yahwi.
It was rape because Jooin was OBVIOUSLY intoxicated and Yahwi knew that. Jooin said multiple times that the “DREAM” felt so real and Yahwi continued anyway. When Jooin woke up he thought it was a dream and it wasnt. When he finally asked Yahwi he was extremely upset to the point he was tearing up. So tell me of Jooin sounded happy about that, if you want ill give you the chapters where he says that :)
The way yall are defending Yahwi after having unconstitutional sex with Jooin is ridiculous. If Cain did that y’all would be up his ass. but because its Yahwi you’re trying to defend him. Absolutely ridiculous. Some of the stuff ive seen people saying is disgusting. Stupid shit like “Jooin was attracted to Yahwi so it wasnt unconstitutional” and that they would have done it anyway. It would have been normal if Jooin wasnt drunk. Yahwi took advantage of the situation and thats the truth even if you try to deny it because you like him. Stop being stubborn and accept the fact that what Yahwi did was wrong. And even if Jooin was mad at Yahwi for not telling him it doesn’t make it any better you sound fucking stupid.
nah i’m dropping it if jooin ends up with that r@pist instead of cain