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Yes.
LOL. Good point.
Agreed
Hand cuffed to a fence? :D
Yep. Think of it as this:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hidoku_shinaide/tr/69591/page/35/
verses this:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v01/c001/21/
I mean, if you're being ravish by a hot seme and you're into it, you may as well get the one with the best toys and technique.
Okay, they are both kind of hot.
Still.
Oh, and while I'm being superficial, on the matter of size, Nemugasa didn't even know Maya had it all the way in the first time--whereas Aki was painfully certain when Asami took the plunge.
*Shakes head at imaginary poll takers who will never read this rant* Priorities, people!
It's not all about size, you know... ^^
I'm pretty sure Asami knows how to use it too. :)
Look, everyone's entitled to an opinion (preferably mine). All I am saying is that Asami is smarter, richer, better looking, more experienced and better endowed. If you go for that kind of thing.
But a good bit of it is.
That I never doubted. :D
Sometimes a little imperfection is more attractive than flawlessness. Well- I should emphasize sometimes, as a major Sebastian fangirl. xD In the end it probably goes case by case, and it all comes down to taste anyways.
Depends. If you don't like it big you don't like it. Luckily for Asami, Akihito seems to enjoy it. ^-^
But if you compare both of their first times to make it fair rather than a time where one occasion was consenting and the other wasn't then they're both not that great. Some people like Asami, some people like Maya. I like Maya because as their relationship progresses he treats Nemu amazingly and worships him, where the manga is currently he is my ideal seme. Asami still has a long way to go for me, I think he is a bit of an asshole. So it doesn't come down to dick size for everyone.
Asami is king, but Maya shows a cute side to Nemugasa that Asami never shows Akihito. Younger girls/women who are probably doing most of the voting can see Maya as THEIR boyfriend more than Asami
Or.... they could just have a difference of opinion. Asami is King to you, not everyone.
Fair enough. I was mostly kidding. :)
A while back, someone was posting about how the Japanese are obsessed with "cute" in the youth culture (maybe it was on another manga forum). Once in a while I like something cute. I like Shingo, for example. However I think I don't appreciate the cute as much as most people.
Both of those links were to rapes (albeit Yoai ravishment seduction rapes). Which one did you think was consenting?
I didn't look at the links, I was talking about the scenarios given in your original post.
And even if comparing the links that I just looked at. They're still both shit. Neither of them had implied consent in my opinion so I'd still rather neither, fantasy or not.
Oh--sorry. My OP was meant to highlight the material differences (e.g. penthouse v. parents' house).
I am glad you don't think either relationship started with consent--I was all geared up for a lecture on the definition of consent. I do think that in Yaoi and other fictional or fantasy settings, some people can choose to suspend disbelief in the ravishment myth and explore darker themes in a safe setting where rape becomes seduction. It's not for everyone though.
Don't take the comments too seriously. I was just thinking that on the VF forum I could get some support for my trash talk. I am really okay with people having other opinions. It doesn't mean I won't joke about it or be snarky. It's just harmless humor.
No worries! I just didn't think it was a fair comparison for the actual semes if that's what you were going for, regarding the poll. If I were to pick, I'd rather just smush Maya and Asami together and get the best of both. XD
On a purely superficial level, would you rather have sex with a tall, well built billionaire boss while watching fireworks from the balcony of his exclusive penthouse,or would you like to have sex with a fairly attractive young man either at his parents' house, in a college dorm, or handcuffed to a fence?