just cus it appears in other media doesnt make it okay for this particular one. everything u listed here is as abhorrent and gross as the r*pe and dubious consent shit in yaoi media, the people that specify that its yaoi do it because its. in a lot of it. like a lot of yaoi. i have my own ideas as to why that is but it doesnt make it okay just cus theres r*pe porn of straight people or whatever fucking point ur trying to make.
like ppl pointing out that yaoi has a lot of gross r*pe in it is such a non issue. i fucking hate it when ppl take it as acting like other sources of pornography dont have this issue. id rather more ppl talk about the r*pe in yaoi then ignore it at least!
If you don't like to read it - fine. No one is holding a gun to your head. But plenty of people do and it has nothing to do with real-life morality or ethics. Fantasy, romance, smut, porn - fiction stories in general - are meant to be adventures in imagination and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to try something dark or scary or wrong or weird in your imagination. The fluffy, sweet, wholesome stories are just as ridiculous and unrealistic in their own way. Choose your own adventures and try to stop shaming other people for their choices.
well yeah theres nothing wrong with reading shit with r*pe or whatever in it if thats what ur saying the issue is is when its fetishized and presented unrealistically like in this manga here because r*pe is traumatizing like it is somethign that fucks people up. genuinely. having an unrealistic outcome of a traumatizing thing is genuinely fucked up bc ppl will believe its fine. which its not. fluffy shit with no r*pe or p*do or anything else potentially traumatizing to real people being unrealistic isnt a fucking issue because its not something that could potentially fuel normalization of aforementioned traumatizing acts.and yes tf it does have to do with morality or ethics when it comes to pornography if ur getting off on it.
Why does everyone act like dubcon/noncon is only a yaoi trope? Don't any of you read straight smutty manga? It's everywhere because it's a thing - "Please overcome my uptight, prudishishness with your big, hot cock! Don't pay attention to my protests because that's just years of being told I'm not supposed to like this stuff. I can't admit I'm loving being fucked silly!"
It's fantasy. RL porn is full of it as well - straight and gay and everything in between. Babysitters seducing the dads (or moms), people being blackmailed, teachers and students, cops and criminals, bosses and employees, old men and young women, groping on the bus/subway, security guards and shoplifters - you name it, there's porn of it. Because people like to read about what they can't do in real life and situations they'd never find themselves in and risked they'd never dare to take.