Well said!
I suggest you read the chapters when the seme suggests he would punish him up to now. All what you said are reliable to the real world and somewhat this but this still isn’t rape. What you said just now was like when both people consent to each other and had a pill of xanax and the person said no because he was tired but the top person wanted to continue. That’s just it no rape in it. Rape is traumatizing. In this the uke wasn’t, he saud “no”=yes. He even said it in the previous chapter “are these words really what i’m saying” as well as “you know what I want right” to the seme. I suggest you to shut up the following updates to continue cause I hate it when people meaninglessly throw the word rape around as well as having to defend this manhwa
imo one cannot simply point out when does the uke mean what he says and when to dismiss his words. You can't deny that Taesung was asked to stop multiple times and did not comply. I don't think someone else apart from Soo-young himself have the right to add further meaning to the word "stop" or interpret it as one wishes. In addition I think it's wrong to judge whether the uke did wish for Taesung to continue his embrace based on body reaction alone. I'm not an expert but I'm quite certain it's possible for your body to react to rape, so not enough a good reason to continue in the act. Soo-young is clearly in a confused and distressed state of mind and he need rest.
If you read the raws the uke didn’t want the seme to stop. Taesung didn’t stop because in the beginning the uke said “you know what i want right?” Which is to not stop until the punishment is completed. The uke did wish for it as he said “are the words no, stop the words i really mean?” Meaning he’s just confused because before he was afraid of it but now he wants it. I suggest you drop ot if you’re uncomfortable
Oh no I'm not in the slightest uncomfortable just amazed to find out how people get so conflicted about it being or not being rape. but to each their own ig as it's only fictional. you do realize tho that people have the right to revoke statements they previously made. I still hold my opinion that Taesung is an inconsiderate, selfish man and he does not deserve to be with Soo-young. I don't even enjoy the sex scenes anymore, I'm so tired of hearing these unchanging words to stop and wait and them getting ignored. The scenes with Minhyuk are wayy more excited to me
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For your first response, I know I did state in my comment about the punishment
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My Quote: "Our MC should have known what he was getting himself into (I mean you guys DID read the previous chapters right?)"
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I try to relate it to real-world as this is a real-world issue we are trying to figure out, I also really don't want people throwing away the whole 'this is rape' every time a situation like this occurs in a comic (I don't know if that makes sense to you?? English isn't my best when dealing with grammar and putting words together.)
SO I try to mix it both in with real-world and the situation in the comic cause both are different on how things may be perceived (.. I guess)
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Your Quote: "What you said just now was like when both people consent to each other..."
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(You are currently relating to a real-world problem and not the comic)
It might not be rape, but in that example you put out, if one party wants to stop, they should stop, that's that. It doesn't matter how far both of them have gone, the other party should stop in consideration for the first. It can also be traumatizing in itself if one is tired/in pain and the other JUST WON'T STOP, that's pretty scary.
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Your Quote: "In this the uke wasn’t, he saud “no”=yes..."
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One I can somewhat agree on, yes we all should know that our MC is confused about his new-found feelings towards the Seme, that's that for every BL, and there is more to learn once more chapters come out.
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And yeah, I'm trying my best to not let people throw the whole 'ThIs Is RaPe" on here, I'm also trying my best with defending and ALSO pointing out what was wrong in this recent chapter. You telling me to shut up when something like this is a huge issue whether real-world or not isn't really helping, a lot of people on here are young, they don't understand, better teach them now so they won't grow up thinking this is right/wrong and overreacting.
Cause at the end of it all, this chapter will be swept under the rug while our MCs live happily ever after.
I whole-heartily agree with you on that, thank you for not being like the other person and telling me to shut up :))
IMO the first scene was sort of uncomfortable, but it was consensual I can say that for sure
Consensual Rough sex was shown here, Our MC should have known what he was getting himself into (I mean you guys DID read the previous chapters right?) Maybe they had a safe word?
Also, read our MC's thought bubbles, though he didn't say it, he still wanted it, and it wasn't about him not wanting sex, but more of his body somewhat giving out during it.
And we should know that the guy would never try to harm our MC in such a way since romantic feelings are building up for the both of them
But I also will not ignore it, if someone wants it to stop, you should stop.
But because of this, it's really hard to tell, like would it still be rape in the second half when he talks about the cool/warm bodies or just the first half when he's telling him to stop as his body can't handle it?
(But in this case, if he were to stop, our MC would bounce right on top of him like my god)
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The second couple I really don't know what to say? Though really similar to our MC, protesting for them to stop, I think Minhyuk knew that the other party didn't want it as he was going off with emotions, in an unsecluded area outside, so he stopped himself before it got bad (I mean good for him!!)
But he knows boundaries and I like him for that.
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Please do not attack me, and please post your opinions and information as we talk about this, there can be many areas where I'm lacking and I would like the full picture. Plus as you can read I am taking into consideration what I've read about the characters (which is different than my usual style as I usually put myself in their shoes and base my opinion on that) but I just woke up, I'm tired, so welcome to my TED-Talk and let's talk about this