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Ok, well, Chinese culture is much different than American culture.
And if you didn't focus on appearance all the time, you'd see the hot mans is loving being around her despite all her lovely "insulation".

If you want something that fits snuggly into your expectations right from the get-go, try "I am NOT Starfire". Unfortunately, what you're complaining about is literally right in the synopsis, title, and it's what the characters reiterate immediately in the first few chapters.

The prince does have a disability, physically and mentally (sounds like DID). Some people do not enjoy their physical disabilities and would do whatever they could to get rid of it. Others accept it and are overjoyed.

I think you need to chill and get rid of your expectations for this manga if you want to enjoy it.

I and many others have the EXACT same concerns and dislikes of this type of manhua. And it's a reflection of a wider issue in general society, but more specifically East Asian society.

The general ableist ideas and fatphobic are offensive. And common. Too common. Like 1 out of every 4 is the exact same storyline with the exact same issues.

Now I'm a lover of isekai and reincarnation themes, but I could definitely do without the fatphobic and ableist ideals constantly coming up.

It's exhausting. Whether you actually read the story or not. Just glimpsing the synopsis and seeing how many people enjoy it is disheartening.

So while I hope you didn't mean to criticise the OP, it definitely came across as curt and insensitive.

Also! Chinese society still has people who are plus size and a serious issue with unrealistic beauty ideals (particularly for women).

And disabled and chronically ill people exist. To suggest criticism can't occur because it's 'Chinese culture' suggests that disabled people suddenly matter and exist once societal treatment finally positively treats us. It doesn't work like that. Cultural relativism rarely works well when used as an excuse to justify the erasure of marginalised groups.

Bruh why did you assume I'm American lol? I am not Chinese but I am also not from a white first world country. Are progressive values only for western society ?? Like the above user said think about how these kinds of values affect the marginalized people living in third world countries. I can tell you first hand as a LGBT person living in one of these countries, my life is fucking hell haha. Anti imperialism cannot excuse denial of equal rights and dignity for everyone, next time don't assume people criticizing this kind of stuff are always privileged white people, that mentality itself is very reactionary. I'm sure that Chinese people are not a single mass or blob of people, every society in a modern world is organized on a socio-economic hierarchy, I'm sure people there exist with various goals and aspirations, it is not right to paint people with a brush.

Anyway, if I only wanted to read good stuff, I wouldn't be on this website reading all kinds of trash haha, I also enjoy plenty of it. Its just these kinds of stories will create an impression on the reader's mind and if they taught kids better values, our future will also be better. So in the sense I feel being critical is also important.

"Are progressive values only for western society?" Point out where I said that.

Also, I live in America so it was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of progressivism. Like you, writing in an anecdotal experience, I also wrote in an anecdotal experience with this.


"next time don't assume people criticizing this kind of stuff are always privileged white people."

Please remember that the word "white" nor any color or race came up in this discussion until you ASSUMED it with American society. Nor did I mention "privileged", and while SOME Americans are privileged, it is, in your words: "not a single mass or blob of people, every society in a modern world is organized on a socio-economic hierarchy, I'm sure people there exist with various goals and aspirations, it is not right to paint people with a brush."

America is melding pot of races, ethnicities, economic and social backgrounds, and much more that struggles with these same types of beauty standards. Infact me, an ugly mixed race fat abomination like myself also wants to strive to have a better body image, not because of media, but because of health risks I'm already suffering from. I don't mind people who choose to be fat. They cool.
The country is also struggling with these beauty standards in the comic and animation industry.
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That aside, if you look at studies, watched videos (even joke videos), or even tried to examine any empirical/sociological data, you'd find that:
"While most of the women recognized that women with round faces and curvy bodies were the traditional ideals in China, most also said they preferred thin bodies and angular faces."
https://www.cas.udel.edu/news/Pages/chinese-beauty-standards.aspx

Or how about:
"In contrast with the image of the body during the pre- reform era, a more distinct difference between men and women, with a marked increase in thinness as an ideal, especially for women, has become increasingly prevalent."
—Body Image Among Students in Beijing, Erika Bergenholtz

Note: this is common in Asian culture/beauty (standards)
I don't care about your anecdotal evidence. I really do not. Because one person's experience should not have to alter everything else for everyone. I get it— there are people who deviate from the beauty standard. But the most prevalent beauty standard gets plastered on magazines and sold out quicker than you can say "Americans all all white."

"Better values"? According to who? You and what army? It's purely all subjective. Maybe for the Chinese, their values are considered greater than thou. It is why they focus mostly on arts and culture than the American society which focuses on inclusiveness and happiness. (OOPS!! Sorry. I Compared it to the only country I know well!!!1!1 sorry if I assumed you were from there, even tho I never said you were, miss/mister/xir assumption!)

Criticizing something is fine. But when you're critiquing the entire basis for the plot (literally plastered in every corner of the page) instead of, I dunno, the other elements in the story such as character development, setting, and more, then it's kind of redundant.
The character did not want to be fat, anyways, and that's her decision.

https://youtu.be/97V3pPMBy4Y — How do Chinese women view beauty standards...

Oops!! It may not be a consensus between everyone... but!!!!@@ it seems like the idealistic beauty standard is widespread!1!

Well yeah Chinese ppl view beauty as slimness. There’s not many people who are overweight in China, so any ppl that are are looked down on. It’s def something that should change but I don’t think that change will happen anytime soon. This isn’t only in China but also in places like Japan and India.

Do you have a link to I am not starfire ?? Or does it go by a different name

While I have anecdotal evidence, I also have a whole dissertation on the topic, so...

there actually more plus size people in Japan an China than you think. India is known for having alot of overweight people.

Yeah but there’s wayyyy less than America. I’ve been to China before and the most I’ve seen is a pot belly. I don’t remember seeing a single overweight person, whereas right now if I go to Walmart I probably would see some.

Oh in America (N.Y) there are a lot and I mean a lot of fat, overweight, big bone , whatever you want to call these people all over the place.

*Wuji plays in the background*
Emperor's. *sniffles* Smile *cries*

Pffffffft come to my country and I can prove yall wrong......... Sigh

*realizes that all the replies are serious*

.... Well damn. Im out of place