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I love the way you explained patronage for this kind of genre. Having been raised in a conservative and religious household, and still a virgin even in my mid-twenties, this genre serves to highlight my own sexual fantasies which are unspoken taboo where I live. I fully agree with your sentiments. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
im frustrated with the implication that this manga is bad because the FL is "weak" w,hen its not that she's weak. she's just horny like the rest of us! lol. but more precisely she's a thinly written stand in for the reader (and if u the reader dont identify with her well...ur gonna be frustrated). Basically its not the she "cant" fight back but that she kinda likes it/wants it and thats why she always "gives in". thats the entire fantasy that these TL mangas are catering to. the virgin girl/woman wants to fuck but is too shy and repressed, so in comes the "bad boy" or "beast" or w/e to teach her the ways of sexy times. and allow her to get pleasure without implicating herself in the process by like...actually voicing her desires in a concrete way. altho he's the aggressor, he (the typical TL male lead) always makes sure to give thorough foreplay via fingering or oral or both and confesses his undying love before giving her the D. unlike any irl man who touches u without ur consent, would actually give zero fux about ur pleasure or feelings, and is 100 percent a predator. and most women who read these comics KNOW this, becuz irl men being sexually aggressive outside the bedroom are just terrifying (otherwise catcalling would be the prologue to many love stories). this guy isnt like any real guy and this scenario is also ridiculous. that said, this isnt MY fantasy, altho im not sexually experienced, i am not repressed or passive so i often feel frustrated with this trope and would vastly prefer FLs who enthusiastically consent and MLs who wait to get that consent before proceeding, but not cause it sends the Wrong Message because any adult reading this would alrdy know this behavior unacceptable in real life and also the opposite of sexy in real life (cause real life has consequences, in this fantasy story we know the FL isnt in danger of being brutalized/murdered by this guy and that he is in fact diong this cause he likes her and not cause he's just horny and she's easy to bully) that said the majority of het porn in mangaland is TL so if the art is nice enough I'll read this shit anyway. which is why I'm here. but every time u find people in the comment section who seem to not know what they are reading is just...porn, its fap material. its basic boring vanilla ass het porn with regressive tropes yes and plays into aspects of rape culture which is if a woman says no she means yes cause a good girl cant say yes even when she means yes. (that said if cultural reports from internal media outlets is to be believed, then most young japanese men are the opposite of sexually aggressive which would also explain why TL mangas are...the way they are). my point is, do u want to see two hot people fucking? then TL manga is for u. do u want to see an engaging love story that has enthusiastic consent? uh...some TL has that! but most doesnt. do u want to see a deep thoughtful story about romance and relationships? u are 100 percent in the wrong place. (josei and shoujo do have that! but the sex is alot milder in those..if its present at all)
in a good romance, there's buildup to the sexy times, and to the love confessions but in a porn even a romantic~ porn, the main point IS the sex. so thats why u get these absurd scenarios with the guy immediately coming onto the FL and her just kinda...weakly protesting while he pleasures her. cause that's like what the audience came here for lol. This isnt me saying people cant complain in comments ofc, lord knows i have my grievances with this entire genre let alone this specific story. but there's just no point in going into knots about the Implications of the lack of consent or how its offensive or etc because ultimately these are focused on the fulfillment of a Desire, and the real question u should ask urselves isnt "is this porn problematic?" cause almost all porn is to some degree, but rather "is this trashy porno manga MY kinda trash or nah?". cause life's too short to care about how some 2D fictional characters get it on. (PS: everyone here should try out Overcumming Writer's Block which is very silly like all TL but unlike most TL is full of enthusiastic consent! we love 2 see it)