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omg finally THANK U FOR THIS. I feel like people are misunderstanding Chowon & it shows the fact that a few people still understand what mental illnesses are. It's so frustrating

yeah, if people are old enough to be here reading porn they are old enough to understand that the world and people are complex, they aren't just one dimentional and black or white
some mental illness can be dark and dangerous if untreated or not treated properly, you can't be discussing the morals of someone in the middle of a psychotic episode the only thing everyone should agree on is that proper treatment is urgent

Those people are also followed by doctors and They have a treatment. When They refuses to take them what should we say ? "It is not their fault" ? You must be held responsible for you actions especially since Chowo is still sane he is not crazy. Most people would have done what his boyfriend/sex friend did because at this point it is not our job to fin you nor we have the tools to do so. Stay with a person with this state of mind without providing them medication is an Insurance that what happened in the past will happen again

that's so reductionist lmao i abandoned doctors just for depression because i wasn't feeling the treatment was effective, imagine it wih a serious illness and no support system plus this is a korean story where mental health professionals are an utter embarrassment...
even legaly in some cases people are exempt of responsibility and declared not guilty by reason of insanity. you can even jusstify and wish for him to end up alone hated and even jailed if you want that's not what we're discussing but what you can't do is bullshit your way through psychiatry

mental disorders aren't just being sad anxious or quirky like the media and mileanials online make them seem, sometimes it means people who are not functional in society and some don't even have the capacity to distinguish right from wrong, add a lack of support system and terrible mental health care and you have people hurting themselves or others and it isn't "an excuse" it's simpy a factual explanation

And so what's your solution ? Because If I'm talking shit i would to know what you are proposing. Having a united front around him ? Even if he continues to hurt other people ? Not just emotionally but also physically ? What should people do ?

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I believe that if he is surrounded with the correct people & stable support system, he would not hurt them & he will listen to them because he knows he is not being judged and he considers them a safe space. People with mental illness sometimes refuse to take medication because of two things: 1 is it may not be effective, and 2 is because of what other people will think about them, just like what you're doing. It does not mean that they refused the medication, you will also refuse to stay by his side, which proves that you only see him as a person who is not stable & 'insane'. Your statement clearly shows that you lack sympathy over them & u are being very ignorant about mental illness.

Additionally, it's not like they chose to be like that. No one wants to have a mental illness & be judged by the people around them.

why should i give you a solution, we were discussing why he did what he did not coming up with a herapy program for a fictional character but if you wanna get more into it there countless papers written about mental illness personality disorders + criminal justice, shit ain't just black or white

I am not being ingnorant I'm being realist. It will never be enough! There are lot of people, parents out there who lives with people with mental illnesses do you really Think that They love is enough to prevent outburst ? Well if you Think so you are really naïve. It May be harsh but the reality for people with mental illnesses is Either they take medication and the situation becomes manageable, or unfortunately they are surrounded by doctors or end up in hospital. In the case of this mahnwa, the character clearly needs the second solution.
Being realistic also means putting oneself in the place of the people in the entourage of those who have a mental illness by only the one who has the mental illness. As I said before, I would never blame a person who leaves because he or she is aware that he or she will not be able to bear the situation?

And it is a fact, people with mental illnesses are not always stable. Which is different that being insane Idk why you associated the two

because you are challenging an opinion. when you challenge something you have to at least justify your argument. It's certainly a discussion about a fictional character, but you're talking about real problems. So to say that it only takes one person to be well surrounded for everything to work out is weird. Now if the author chooses to follow this path for his story, and I'm afraid that's what's going to happen, it's even weirder.

I never said that "love" is enough. When did I say that? I think you misunderstood what I said. Of course they would need professional help & outburtsts can't be prevented. What I'm saying is, they need to be surrounded by peope that are good to them & knows the situation well. Outbursts can't be prevented of course, but if they are with people who are knowledgeable and/or caring enough, the situation can be somehow controlled, which will then prevent that person from hurting others. I am not being naive, I am being sympathetic about the person. I will never imply that I will blame the person who leaves them. All I am saying is they need a better support system.

So we agree on this. In reality, people with mental illnesses need to be surrounded, but unlike other people in the comments, there is no reason to demonize people who do not feel capable of bearing the emotional burden that a relationship with an ill person can cause. Coming back to the story, what I see is that the character is sick and whether or not his actions are sick or not is in no way forgivable and he should be held responsible for them, especially since he doesn't seem to have any regrets. He is hurt because the person he loves has blamed him. He deserves to be alone in the end, he has a right to happiness, but for now he should focus on solving his problems and apologizing. And the people in the comments should stop minimizing a person's actions under the pretext that they have a mental illness.