nono, he’s right

Tsuni November 17, 2020 1:20 pm

so i’m a black person myself. if i was put in his shoes i really would’ve done the same thing. like don’t fucking call me a slave. this was a very,,,, interesting joke from the author...

I should also mention that unless you're black, you really don't have a say in if it was offensive or not :)

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    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 12:18 pm

    but also how the black guy called MC a yellow monkey... which is a derogatory term towards asians. i feel like both these terms should’ve been avoided

    Tsuni November 16, 2020 12:42 pm
    but also how the black guy called MC a yellow monkey... which is a derogatory term towards asians. i feel like both these terms should’ve been avoided NekoNeko

    i agree. i feel like both jokes were very inappropriate considering the history around that. and author-nim knows at least the basics since they made the ‘joke’. i feel like that chapter was very ignorant

    Yuki November 16, 2020 3:16 pm
    but also how the black guy called MC a yellow monkey... which is a derogatory term towards asians. i feel like both these terms should’ve been avoided NekoNeko

    I think the author added it to add more personality to the character. Like how the black character reacted to the word slave, he then said yellow monkey to counter.
    This is what I thought about it.

    GayHibiscus November 16, 2020 7:07 pm

    It's disgusting. Fuck this author and the series. It's a typical portrayal by East Asian comics of black people as brainless "apes" who exist to just be brute force or angry characters who hate Japan/China/Korea, depending on the country of origin of the author. It's fucking gross.

    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 7:37 pm
    It's disgusting. Fuck this author and the series. It's a typical portrayal by East Asian comics of black people as brainless "apes" who exist to just be brute force or angry characters who hate Japan/China/Kore... GayHibiscus

    hmm this is the first time i’ve seen something like this in a manga so i can neither agree or disagree with you. Also hate between koreans and japanese are more portrayed than any other race in mangas/hwas since they both have history with e/o

    Carotene5494 November 16, 2020 8:42 pm

    I think some people may be overreacting with that scene. I don't think it was written in as a joke...so I'm not sure why people are saying they were jokes. It was a dialogue between two people who are enemies with one another...

    As one commenter pointed out, it was to give those characters more dimension other than just trash characters who will just die. I do agree that it is probably unnecessary.

    I just have to point out that MC didn't call the black guy a slave directly...the spell turned the whole group into his slaves and he was just explaining how it worked...black dude just got particularly offended because of history obviously. MC should probably have known better, but since he is not originally in the timeline, his tone-deafness is kinda expected.

    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 8:56 pm
    I think some people may be overreacting with that scene. I don't think it was written in as a joke...so I'm not sure why people are saying they were jokes. It was a dialogue between two people who are enemies w... Carotene5494

    what do you mean he isn’t originally in the timeline? He was born and raised in the 20/21st century and recovered his memories from a past life. That means he understands the original time’s history too. MC didn’t direct it towards the black dude but it’s valid he feels offended and said sth racist back. but i just feel like it was very unnecessary and added nothing to the story. it didn’t give any dimension to the black character nor the MC because it kinda portrays the black dude in a negative light in the sense he got offended when it wasn’t directed at him specifically. I wouldn’t say they were enemies, black dude was just hired he doesn’t have any personal vendetta against MC so his dialogue wasn’t even necessary in the first place.

    Tsuni November 16, 2020 9:05 pm
    what do you mean he isn’t originally in the timeline? He was born and raised in the 20/21st century and recovered his memories from a past life. That means he understands the original time’s history too. MC... NekoNeko

    THIS ONE RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!! it was really unnecessary to add and personally made me feel uncomfortable and some type of way. i hope author-nim learns from this experience

    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 9:08 pm
    THIS ONE RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!! it was really unnecessary to add and personally made me feel uncomfortable and some type of way. i hope author-nim learns from this experience Tsuni

    yeah i can’t help but feel the author intentionally used those kinda dialogues to get these kinda reactions. It only portrays the Black guy as overly sensitive in my opinion.

    Tsuni November 16, 2020 9:10 pm
    yeah i can’t help but feel the author intentionally used those kinda dialogues to get these kinda reactions. It only portrays the Black guy as overly sensitive in my opinion. NekoNeko

    i kind of agree. i feel like the black dude would’ve been hostile sure, but lashing like that?? not really realistic but i get it bc some people may do that and it’s a valid reaction

    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 9:12 pm
    I think the author added it to add more personality to the character. Like how the black character reacted to the word slave, he then said yellow monkey to counter. This is what I thought about it. Yuki

    some ppl say black ppl are overly sensitive about these things and this dialogue exchange with the MC just gives more weight to that statement. Personally for me it added nothing to the black dude’s personality and was just completely unnecessary.

    NekoNeko November 16, 2020 9:14 pm
    i kind of agree. i feel like the black dude would’ve been hostile sure, but lashing like that?? not really realistic but i get it bc some people may do that and it’s a valid reaction Tsuni

    yeah the way he got offended didn’t seem realistic like he knew the word wasn’t directed specifically at him, + he was amongst the ones to attack him first that’s why it seems the reaction/dialogue was unnecessary. Some ppl may lash out like that but given the situation it didn’t fit in

    Yuki November 17, 2020 3:03 am

    Yes I do agree it isn't necessary but it can still be added for more depth. Let's say for example another person reacted like how the black character reacted will it have the same impact? The objection will be regarded as resistance because he/she doesn't want to follow MC command. But if a black person reacted to the word slave, it could trigger a lot more background to his resistance therefore justifying his action more. The author just failed to put more thought on how this part is laid out which is why it feels so out of place. I'm just trying to view it in a writer's perspective.

    Tsuni November 17, 2020 1:18 pm
    Yes I do agree it isn't necessary but it can still be added for more depth. Let's say for example another person reacted like how the black character reacted will it have the same impact? The objection will be ... Yuki

    This was still an unnecessary thing to add. It didn't add any depth to the story at all. What my ancestors went through ISN'T something that should be added in-depth. It wouldn't even have been a big deal as it was if MC didn't call him an idiot. MC KNOWS the history, and even if he doesn't, author nim obviously does. So having MC call the black guy an idiot for reacting the way he did is uncalled for.

    Tsuni November 17, 2020 1:19 pm
    yeah the way he got offended didn’t seem realistic like he knew the word wasn’t directed specifically at him, + he was amongst the ones to attack him first that’s why it seems the reaction/dialogue was un... NekoNeko

    i agree

    Carotene5494 November 17, 2020 1:31 pm

    You would have also spouted a racial slur to the person who didn't even say that you were a slave directly (he addressed the whole group affected by the spell fyi)???

    I do think it was a very realistic reaction. But it was very unnecessary and could have just not been included...I wonder why the author had to include that exchange.

    Tsuni November 17, 2020 1:44 pm
    You would have also spouted a racial slur to the person who didn't even say that you were a slave directly (he addressed the whole group affected by the spell fyi)???I do think it was a very realistic reaction.... Carotene5494

    I wouldn't have said a racist discriminatory word, but I def would have been pissed and would have lashed. ANd even fucking so that's still would've gotten on my nerves. also, if ur a vanilla gorilla stfu. mc called the dude an idiot for lashing out the way he did, which was completely inappropriate as MC would have definitely learned at least abt slavery. Overall author-nim shouldv'e never included it.

    Tsuni November 17, 2020 1:46 pm

    So basically the comments r telling me to not b sensitive to this topic and i really hope they are also black or otherwise shut up please. It is not your place especially if you're a whyte

    Carotene5494 November 17, 2020 4:47 pm

    I sure hope op is just trolling...

    Tsuni November 17, 2020 10:19 pm
    I sure hope op is just trolling... Carotene5494

    who me? being actually upset that this happened? no. i’m not trolling. and if you mean the vanilla gorilla part in still not joking :)