this is what I've been talking about!!!
I agree, I like Dabi's character but that doesn't mean I'm going to disregard everything he's done. He's a murderer with very skewed morals, hell even I'm questioning if he even has any. There is only one time I've seen him show any remorse and that's for the families of those he's killed (back when he thought about what Snatch told him). And Endeavor WAS an abuser, he pushed his wife into a mental breakdown and neglected his children's feelings and health. Emphasis on the was. He's trying to improve himself and his relations with his families to the point of thinking about it every night. And he's moving forward with that. I respect Endeavor for actually trying instead of staying as a terrible husband and father. What Dabi's trying to do is going to ruin everything Endeavor has done for that. It's like the fandom wants him to be an abuser just to have a reason to hate him and support Dabi. This fandom needs a wakeup call.
Yes! Thank you!
Liking a character doesn't mean you ignore what he does! That's how things are supposed to be!
I like Endeavor because he is trying to fix his mistakes with his family and I love Shoto and his siblings because of how much they have grown and how they are able to work with their father despise his past! That's good character development!!¨
Dabi is a "good" villain but it was too clear who he was. His story is heartbreaking, but his actions are not to be forgotten. Like you said, he did feel remourse but it was once in like 290 chapters lolol
I want Dabi to realize how everyone in the family is moving on and gets to let go of the past and move on with them.
A happy ending that will be hard to achieve... I am actually scared that Horikoshi will do what the majority of the fandom wants and kill Endeavor without giving him a chance to redeem himself properly...
I'm glad more people think like me. It feels like there are more peoply simping for Dabi than people realizing how important and f*ed up his reveal is for everyone else.
It's literally him forcefully chaining the family back into a past they've worked hard to break away and move on from. And this time, it's also in public so this is going to hurt all of them in ways that we can't even predict.
It's like playing fucking snakes and ladders. Dabi is that one damn snake that sits on case 99 and takes you all the way back to 1....
for real!! people tend to blame Endeavour for what he's done to him and the family, I mean sure HE WAS AN EGOTISTICAL PIECE OF AN @S$HOLE buut he was really repenting on his sins, he was ready to move forward with his family to TRY TO BE A BETTER DAD AND HUSBAND WITHOUT FORGETTING HIS SINS TO THEM (he even prays to Touya's altar everyday). And Dabi, I get that he's been traumatized and all buut his morale and beliefs are fucked up. What he experienced doesn't excuse of what he had done to those poor innocent people. It's also sad for Shouto, imagine hearing your own brother publicly say that he's been planning to kill him just because of his hatred to their father, give the child a break!! he's been through a lot for pete's sake. And yes, I can actually see the public's harsh critics and stuff to the Todoroki fam, just like how people would do in real life, jumping to conclusions and stuff, adding fuel to the fire and stuff.
I mean, I personally like him because he's upsetting all the hard work. I like my villains being villainous, (better when I find a hero being villainous, but that's hard).
I'm excited for the heroes to face a villain that's not brainless (Nomu's, though that's arguable too) or a villain where they can talk it out and relate to one another. Dabi is a full blown murdered. A monster that was molded by Enji, the number one hero. At least in the eyes of the world. And I do like Enji and redemption, but the truth is even if you become a better person, the scars you have on others are sometimes stained. (Not justifying Dabi's actions, I just love to see conflict and I have't bee his excited for My hero chapters in a long time).
I'm glad this new chapter has brought so much discussion out!
im glad so many bnha fans on mangago r recognizing this and actually (NOT TO BE RUDE) have good comprehension skills. Even those who hate Endeavor on mangago recognize his growth. Meanwhile on Tiktok everyone is so bias, hypocritical, and honestly lack reading skills. THE AUTHOR WILL BLUNTLY SAY SOMETHING YET THEY DISMISS IT FOR THEIR OWN "BELIEFS" TO BE TRUE. Im so happy to have found smart bnha fans ╥﹏╥. Tiktok bnha fans honestly trigger me with their hypocrisy.
I completely agree!
Fans on tiktok and twitter (that hellish place lol) are very biased towards just a few characters.
I love Mha because I see them go through things and grow or change from the experiences but ppl on tiktok are just very...very...VERY horny for just a handful of ppl and don't really seem to care about the plot at all.
I don't mind admiring some characters *cough* but at the same time, what's the point of sticking around through arcs and arcs of shit just to simp?
If an author is able to make me change my opinion of some characters like Endeavor and Bakugou then the story is great! And it should be recognized!!
Glad other ppl are thinking like me too! (●'◡'●)ﾉ
YESS I COMPLETELY AGREE. If these tiktok fans were writing the story on how they dont want endeavor to get redemption, they want the villians to win, they want deku to not be the main character....IT JUST TAKES THE FUN OUTTA BNHA. Horikoshi is an amazing author and is trying to portray more depth and development for Endeavor so that he isnt a one dimensional monester. EXCUSE HIM for making a FUCKING INTERESTING STORY. These tiktok fans fail to see this and it just bores me honestly. Horikoshi should not be shamed for giving endeavor depth and character. These people want a boring story with no compelling features. Its crazy to me that they can think that of a FICTIONAL character.. characters need depth to make them interesting and thats exactly what hori is doing. They choose to apply these real human morals on fictional characters BUT ONLY CERTAIN ONES LIKEEE. So if I like the well written character Endeavor, I am a child abuse supporter? No, and they would understand that if they didnt have such a false narrative of us endeavor stans. Also if we abide by that logic liking Dabi, Twice, or really any villian, makes you a murderer supporter. It does not make sense and their argument is flawed. They only watch anime for simping for charactrs (WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE!! I HAVE DONE IT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS) but the way they shame others for looking into characterization and liking interesting well written characters even if they are portrayed as morally bad is where they are incorrect. It's honestly so hard to change their mind too lmao I got blocked by an anti endeavor for showing how they make no sense in their flawed argument. Its pitiful really :D
Ah yessss!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I 100% feel that!
I love Endeavor because he isn't just a "child abuser" he feels remourse and tries his best to fix things. (I mean he ain't ugly either but that's a whole other thing lol)
It's pitiful indeed that others can't appreciate his growth like us ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Oh well~ We'll enjoy him nonetheless.
We all simp for characters, it's normal lol But at least some of us don't let it cloud our judgement of other characters.. Like most tiktok fans ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
YES I AGRRE :D Endeavor is so much more than a child abuser and its ok if they dont see it, we'll just keep him to ourselves ;). LMAO I LOVE ENJIS LOOKS HES A SUCH A DADDY! (gotta love dem tits).
lkfioshfbobf GOSH I KNOW! I always found him attractive, them arms tho!!
ლ(´ڡ`ლ) I wanna be hug by them so baaaaad! looks super comfy~~
LOL The daddies in anime are always the best u.u
YESSSS GIVE A CHANCE TO THE OLDER MEN! NO ONE WANTS A TWINKK
GAHAHHAHA!! ヾ(☆▽☆) I like how you think!!
This fandom not only spoiled it before this chapter came out but also tend to forget how awful of a person he became.
Endeavor was a horrible father but let's not forget that he realized his mistake and was doing his best to fix things with his kids.
He never forgot the past and never will, instead him and his kids were trying to move forward and try to fix things between them the best they could. This is why Shoto -who hated his father a LOT, decided to work with him in the end.
Dabi is stuck in the past, which is understandable, but let's not forget he is ok with killing innocents and destroying lives for his goal.
He killed so many and like he said in this chapter, planned to kill Shoto when he became a hero. Shoto, who had nothing to do with his father and lived the same harsh life as him as a kid.
Dabi is not going to move forward even after killing Endeavor because his lineage still exists, and from what I see, he wouldn't think twice to kill anyone that has the same blood (besides maybe Natsu? but who knows...).
I liked Dabi when we didn't know who he was, he was just a handsome burned evil nugget but now? I don't.
Especially because of the fangirls that are destroying the hard work that family had to go through.