So. The story started quiet good, if we exclude the terrifying mouths of the characters. A...

Athelyè October 25, 2020 5:05 pm

So. The story started quiet good, if we exclude the terrifying mouths of the characters. After that, IMO, the void.

Among the characters, they're all impossible to be saved.
The main (uke) seemed to be a though one, but instead, when he and the other are togethe, he became a moron crybaby, who sheds tears for every-damn-thing; I seriously thought of beating him with a bar in oh so many chapters.
The other mc (seme) is a totally flat character, who thinks he was the only one knowing his dead brother at times, and others he says "I knew nothing about him" and then blame everyone else for not saving him.
The friend of the mcs is just useless: he's needed just to bring together the main two.
About the pseudo-enemy who turns into a kinda-friend: a) he is an asshole with a shitty personality, b) it's absurd that he breaks the friend's ankle (bare hands, even) and then the two of them end up together being all lovey-dovey.
The dead brother's childhood friend appears to be desperately longing for a relationship, since he runs after his childhood friend, then the main character (aka, the boyfriend, of his best friend's little brother), and then the dead boy's uncle.
This man, the uncle, should be the wise guide of them all, but he ends up being a random character who speaks in riddles.

In the end, the only one you could empathize with, is actually the only one who doesn't take a part in the story: the dead brother, who had a relationship with the uke's father (who seems to be the only victim here, since he lost it all: his family, his lover, and almost lost his job; he was attacked by everyone when he was just being realistic).

There's somenthing left to say?

Responses
    Katsuforov October 26, 2020 10:49 am

    You sound like an ass towards Seheon (the one you called moron and wanted to beat up with a bar.) Anyway, whats wrong with being a crybaby? Whats wrong with crying if things get sad? What he felt was justified. The tragedy of his boyfriend's life is sad as fuck. Let the guy cry.

    And about Juha, isnt the word "character development" not in your books?. Have you not read his monologue in their last chapter? Yes I hated what he did to the other three, and imho it sucked thay the author didn't make him apologize properly but about his relationship.. not every couple who falls in love start out under a romantic rainy sky and all that jazz (ha). Just because he and Doyoon started roughly doesnt mean they can't develop feelings for each other.

    then again, you wouldn't notice how these characters change since the manhua is honestly kind of lacking. Sorry i ended up rambling but the judgment was stupid af lol.

    Athelyè October 26, 2020 12:15 pm
    You sound like an ass towards Seheon (the one you called moron and wanted to beat up with a bar.) Anyway, whats wrong with being a crybaby? Whats wrong with crying if things get sad? What he felt was justified.... Katsuforov

    Yes, I was intentionally hypercritical, 'cause I really liked the plot (even if I don't look like it, I know lol), and it could've been a lot better if the characters didn't suddenly changed for the worst, or at least it's what I think. That's why I am disappointed with the characters and made this hyperbolic description of them.

    I don't judge the fact that Seheon cries when he's sad, he clearly has the right to cry, but he becomes like this after getting together with Taeji. It's a rough and sudden changing (nontheless a sad uke-cliché, I'd say), if he starts like he is a pretty much self-confident guy.

    These words exist, 'character development', that's why I don't see them. It's not something smooth, Juha, like the others, makes a change of personality all of a sudden. To me, his story (sad and obsessive, yes, as all their stories) doesn't show a development: he's unsure and unstable from the beginning to the end (where I actually liked him a bit more), without any real progress neither in a really good or a bad way.
    About he and Doyoon, they didn't just have an argument or weren't nice to each other.. Juha broke his ankle (which, if you're lucky and never experienced it, is pretty important, and you can't come back playing again as if nothing happened), bullied Dooyon and Taeji, and tried to do.. something, I guess, to Seheon.
    Not every couple starts with flowers and happiness all around, but this one is kind of a toxic one without a real reason, isn't it?

    I saw them changing, but it felt terribly sudden and sometimes just irrational.
    I'm happy to hear other people liked it, I'm not assuming I'm the only one who's right, on the contrary.
    It just didn't work out for me, maybe I missed something when I was reading, even if I read it all (because I didn't drop it half-way, otherwise I wouldn't have written this topic).

    Btw, thanks for your reply, I hope I wasn't aggressive or offensive in any way towards you, 'cause it wasn't my intention.