it's also the funniest thing ever like asking 'whos the girl in the relationship.' uh neither, thats kind of the point of mm relationships my guy lmaoooo
this remind me why I hate sterotypical seme who like ceo and big build man while uke is girly little feminine looking guy that look like girl and only different between him and shojo girl is that he supposly have dick that cenceord so what the different really between that and regular shojo manga , the best example of that is Okane Ga Nai , it also reason why I love tough guys on bottom or manly ukes , cuz it break stereotype in yaoi that seme = man , uke = girl .. and if I wanted to read manXgirl I would read shojo not yaoi , so I hope yaoi aurthers hear our plead , yaoi is like big part of my joy in life don't want to be turn off by it :(
i don't so much mind the 'masculine/feminine' thing that pops up A LOT, so much as the characters openly saying "like a woman" like... NEITHER of you are attracted to women... WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS... but yeah still a lot of weird stuff in yaoi that is like straight stuff i think because it's easier for people to understand when they write? idk
yep , the whole I feel like women is weird , I am woman myself and I don't understand what feel like woman is .
not all women feel same when they have sex , so saying feel like women is stereotype that all women feel same during sex and this is sexist .
Yes exactly!!
Indeed...
I will always ignore that bc if the story is good enough i can deal with it and
2 woman by nature are the bottom so i can see why they do that
3 it's funny af
are u woman ? cuz who told you women are bottom by natural ? and misogny is not funny .. I do try to ignore it but it still make me sad .
I met the "fuck me like a woman" and yes im a woman a female a creature with the capability to give life a human been that has to suffer once a month horrible head akes temper tantrums and horrible pain to the point i think that getting rid of it would be better a strange creature that has been able to see that man have less rights then a woman in this current era and woman can get away with anything without suffering consequences
I said by nature yea we can rule a relationship but in the end we are the ones that get penetrated so we can continue the circle of life
being on reciving end doesn't mean we bottom , some men like when women take lead and top them and I don't mean women fucking man in ass , I mean taking lead in bed
by bottom I don't mean one who get penetrated , I mean one who take lead , and some women do take lead in bed and some men enjoy being on receiving end and let women lead and it don't mean woman have to peg man for her to be on top .
Well im here to throw my two cents as possibly the only actual man in this thread(wich probably makes my opinions invalid by default, no?) but as someone who is into degradation bdsm word play i find it kinda hot when a bottom is so upfront about being to be fucked "like a woman". And youre going to say that im "sexualizing women" and have no right to speak since im not one , thereby im going to reply with "you are sexualising gays by reading this, no?". Seriously a fucking yaoi manga is not the place to bring social justice in
u could have shared your opinion with out comparison , also I appreciate guys sharing their opinion on this .. still doesn't change that I feel bad when I read that as woman , I am ok when seme say to uke u naughty or being slutty etc , it the part about feeling like woman and cuming like woman that trigger me cuz it just degrading and I am not into degradation , and race play both things turn me off .
so it matter of taste but as I said most yaoi authors are females and majority of readers are girls , so I would like if the author try to appeal to the majority of readers by not putting things that could cause females to feel misogny .
I personally don't know any woman that turned on by misogny , some women do like being called naughty and slut in bed but if it became straight misogny it turn off , this got nothing to do with what you said "you are sexualising gays by reading this, no?" ... this different subject for different day ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
yah my dude less about 'social justice' and more just.... two guys... fucking... means no women...? its just embarrassing? (dare i say cringe?) u can feel how u want... same as others. all we were saying its cringe (cause it is). whether u enjoy cringe or not is up to you. 'which probably makes my opinion invalid' my GUY degradation may be ur thing but not mine lmao
Yea srry abt that i was rlly tired when i wrote that so i came off reaaaaallyyy passive aggressive. U just came into the argument as if even mentioning a woman in this day is misoginy so i thought i had no chance to get my point across from the start. But i still think the author can just write abt what thy want to if it makes u feel sad i think u should just avoid these tilypes of works(?). From what i seen the "fk me like a woman" is pretty rare anyway so u shd be good i cn recommend some good stuff i f u want too
can yaoi writers stop with the " I feel like woman '' , " make me feel like woman " , " woman hole " , " make me cum like girl " , " empragnate me like woman " , etc.
as girl myself and someone who run away from watching real porn & hentai cuz it degrade women and treat women like shit , filled with misogny and insult women in general in way that appeal to men sexual fantasy and not give fuck about women who read it , in yaoi I thought cuz most yaoi writers are female themselves and this is made to appeal to fangirl majority readers , I thought they wouldn't use this kind approch and respect women , I am heartbroken to be honest seem like I can never escape the misogny it everywhere I go . T-T