Just gross

sorry but i dont get what you mean. So you want the authors to portray the rape as in literal? you also said, "A LOT of people reflects on media opinion" then if the authors portray rape as it was then the people will be very disgusted as you speak, but will tehy even enjoy reading it? its the authors job to entertain the audience on how we like it cuz its what gives them credit or stuff like that. ofcourse i expect people who read this type of stuff can be a bit older or closing to teens to have the common sense that its rape and its bad and it hurts. Authors already warned and specifically said the word at front so why would they even make the audience be disgusted if they already gave a warning and a hint on whats to come?

because they made up and cuz sawamura likes his miyu senepai??? its a story for goodness sake

EXACTLY..... and then these fujoshis that fetishize gay relationships sit here and praise it or use the “its just fictional/a fantasy” like thats supposed to justify it? like what about rape is normal to yall???

Backread the replies my good sir/maam, i aint gonna explain anything again

I couldn't have said it better, you're totally right （/TДT)/

And that's the point, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it this way, thank you ヾ(☆▽☆)

Because it gay ? Hentai and yaoi are the same. They both are sexual erotic pornographic. So basically people can read stories about straight , but gay people. Trust me I seen manga hentai that contains many explicit contents such as yaoi. Why don't you go aroubd and tell people to stop Fetishizing straight people too. Rape is not normal in Hentai too, but yet it's still there.

thank you someone actually understands that yaoi isnt meant to be a realistic portrayal of anything its literally just porn theres no realistic aspects to it at all its just for entertainment.

bruh no ones praising or fetishizing gay relationships if that was the case then literally everyone who reads or enjoys any type of bl story is guilty thats not what fetishizing means. fetishizing would be if someone took these relationships and tried to enforce them on real gay couples. having a fantasy and keeping it strictly to yourself versus going up to real couples and telling them how to act is fetishizing. there are tons of people who do that but thats not what is being discussed here. the point is that there are people who can read this stuff and still understand that rape is a problem in real society. just because they are reading this content doesnt mean its being normalized. no one fkn said rape was normal bruh if u actually read the responses u would see that.

can you shut the fuck up? im not gonna sit here reading complete bullshit about you defending rape being normalized/romanticized in yaoi just because you fetishize mlm relationships. and i am nonbinary learn to stop using gendered terms on others you dont know. use your brain.

there is nothing for you to explain to me because i am Actually in my right mind and read mangas with good representation of lgbt relationships not because i fetishize, but because i am lgbt myself. i bet you are just some cishet lmao

people can read a work and not fetishize it. just because you find something hot or sexy doesn't mean you are fetishizing it. u cant just sit here and label every person as shit because they consume a certain kind of media. and fyi yaoi was literally made for straight women in the beginning as a form entertainment, and it still is(a form of entertainment). yeah its grown by leaps and bounds but that doesnt mean any of the relationships are accurate at all. u can find something cute and wholesome in a fictional context and understand why its fucked up in real life. its fine to relate to some of the stories but yaoi is literally hentai its not supposed to be accurate at all. its literally supposed to be an outlet for entertainment and personal satisfaction. i agree with the fact that rape is hella normalized in yaoi as a whole, but the person u keep bashing isnt the one normalizing rape in yaoi. if you want to talk about normalizing, go find the artists. that person and a lot of other people who read this stuff arent doing anything wrong by reading it. and you can consume media and entertainment and keep it separate from real life affairs. direct your anger towards the people creating the content and normalizing rape in yaoi bc the readers arent the ones doing that.

and the creators are completely at fault. but so are you because you consume this shitty content which proves to creators that their audiences feed off of this horrible genre so they are fueled to keep making it. please do not step into a convo with me about fetishizing ESPECIALLY if you are straight which im sure 99% of you fujoshis are.

like do you realize how you sound right now? yes the creators are creating the content but you being aprt of its audience means you condone it. works like this wouldn’t be made as often if the mass majority of you didnt enjoy it. which means the creators and readers both need to be dealt with.

bruh i literally am ace so quit going around assuming shit. u rlly wanna talk about making assumptions about who u are while u assume that everyone reads yaoi is obsessive and cant help but fetishize. yeah people do fetishize mlm couples a lot but thinking something is hot is not fetishizing. if people cant get it through their heads and realize that shit that you read in yaoi doesnt apply to real life then you shouldnt be reading this shit. yaoi is literally porn. porn includes a lot of genres you dont like either so just dont fkn watch or read the content. in porn, there might be a lot of genres you dont like. that doesnt mean te audience for those genres or the content itself is gonna go away. its your choice to distance yourself from that content. straight up bashing people who are literally aware of what rape is doesnt help anyone. yaoi isnt supposed to be a learning tool about rape and what its actually like. if you want that watch a documentary. yaoi is literally for everyone. anyone is allowed to read and enjoy it. yaoi is also not realistic and u cant have the expectation that it will ever be realistic. if you specifically dont like this genre thats not our problem as readers. just dont read it. stories, especially this specific one, are obviously not made in order to highlight what rape is supposed to be like and instead of assuming that everyone who doesnt align with your opinions or taste is automatically uneducated and disgusting how about u take the time to find actually problematic fujioshis. i understand where u are coming from and i agree that rape shouldnt be romanticized and that fact that there is a toxic fandom but just straight up raging at anyone who read this stuff isnt going to enact any change. reading content doesnt mean you act accordingly to that content.

its porn. all of it is porn. none of it is real and it doesnt even involve real characters. people are not intended to learn anything from yaoi. its not constructive in any way, shape, or form. theres no getting rid of it since its literally just porn. theres no way u could sit down and convince the entire world to get rid of porn. its just not realistic. idk how its not possible for u to understand that its a fkn drawing and deluding yourself into thinking that yaoi is supposed to be correctly portrayed is wishful thinking. most of these pieces are not created to show the beauty of an mlm relationship tbh. thats what shounen ai is supposed to do. you cant expect that any of this will represent what an actual person has gone through. thats literally what education is for, not yaoi.

the only reason it becomes problematic is when people obsess over it to the point where they start degrading real people into objects of their fantasy. just reading a work doesnt fkn do that. like i said before, if the author is misogynistic or homophobic thats different. in those cases the author should most definitely be put out of business. drawing something doesnt make it a reality. im sure youve run into a lot of people who delude themselves into thinking the opposite but generalizing an entire audience, many of whom have literally done nothing wrong, doesnt make any sense. reading something does not equal fetishizing. as long as no one is getting hurt and these concepts arent applied to real life, you really shouldnt be bothering people about what they choose to read.

HAH WOW damn since when did i fucking said i was defending rape? i was fucking talking about the story cuz people who likes this stuff doesnt want to revolve around the realism of the actual rape. im fucking offended by u saying im defending rape what the hell?

im not reading all this bullshit lmao but being ace is not a sexuality. sexuality is WHO you are attracted to not HOW you are attracted to people so you are still cishet at the end of the day. practically proving my point since you are sitting here defending corrupt content creators and the creeps that read it. i dont care if it is drawings or not because thats the only excuse you people can use but what if these stories get live action adaptions? what are you gonna do then? say its still not realistic even though its being portrayed in a real life setting? would the story be considered disgusting then when its finally made “realistic” enough for yall? everything you people argue with is excuses to make yourselves feel better and not guilty for being fans of this kind of shit. you Are a problematic fujoshi and so are the rest of the people justifying this. you are choosing manga over morals here. think about it.

yes! ya'll should listen to her before you even reply something.