Wholeheartedly agreed. I really enjoyed it but actually, the further into the story we went from one point, the more things didn't *click* right.
Seheon is my favourite character - that boy is my baby.
"Suicide is basically a person giving away their agency; it's not a choice, it's the absence of one." I wouldn't say it's the absence of choice but rather, the inability to see other choices.
Very well put. I completely understand your point of view. Suicide really does limit one's ability to see other choices.
i really like how you pointed out that taejun was also at fault and that the prof shouldnt be blamed for his suicide. that’s what really turned me off from this manga even tho it used to me my absolute favorite. i didn’t like how suicide was tackled in this.
i just really felt bad for the prof and i wish someone couldve told him that suicide wasn’t his fault. like what u pointed out taejun committed suicide bc he’s trauma or depression made him unable to see other choices.
suicide should NEVER be blamed on somebody else unless ofc an individual actually directly told or caused someone to commit suicide.
Yeah the way suicide was handled was really disappointing. First people claimed that Taejun committing suicide was the only time he did something for himself and I was like wtf ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ Then they claimed that he was happy before he committed suicide and I was like (╬￣皿￣)凸 Finally the Prof. was the only one blamed as though Taejun hadn't willingly had an affair with a married man. Taejun in no way was a blameless little angel like the webtoon made him out to be. Yes his treatment was shitty but he was also an adult who made terrible choices. He didn't deserve to die but no one caused his death except for himself. The Prof. deserved better than being constantly blamed for Taejun's death when the real shitty thing he did was cheating on his wife and that wasn't even addressed as a real problem(⊙…⊙ )
i agree with everything except the part of you liking the prof like he was supposed to be the teacher and shoulda stopped it but ehh i really loved the story mostly just taeyi and seheon bc they are sooo cuteee!! OMG and the part where you said every pitiful character has to get a happy ending i always see those tropes and its SOO IRRITATING like i wouldnt mind it if they didnt get together and juha... just no i lived your comment and replies and im so glad we agree on basically everything with this storyyyy
'i agree with everything except the part of you liking the prof like he was supposed to be the teacher and shoulda stopped it '
Oh absolutely! Taejun was the one who came onto Prof. but Prof. was really senior to him, a married man with kids and a teacher. Him doing what he did was still abusing the power dynamics he had and failing as an educator (at least he got w a University student and not a high school student but small mercies), but what I meant was that how his story progressed after Taejun's death and the genuine regret he had. He's a realistic character who was unfairly blamed as the only character at fault when Taejun was just as, if not more at fault. Hopefully he'll focus on his career and teaching again, ad never lay hands on a student even if they come to him first. He has both the power and responsibility to stop any ill-begotten crush.
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I'm so happy you agree with me!
(づ￣ ³￣)づ muah! in my opinion i dont think the professor should be teaching anymore like yeah i did like the genuine regret he was feeling but the fact still stays that he chose to continue that relationship with a studentt!!! cmonn. thats just gross to me T T but i love people who make thorough comments that really get you thinking on a deeper side of things YOURE AN AMAZING PERSON
You know what?! I agree (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ Prof shouldn't be a teacher anymore because even though Taejun came onto him, he had all the power and authority to make it stop! And he failed there (︶︿︶)＝凸 He should just work on himself as a person and maybe find a different career.
Awww, you're making me blush! ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ I'm so happy to have encountered all these users who are up for a discussion and don't take the slightest hint of dissent personally and start screeching and gate-keeping about 'how it's all fictional!1!1!1 don't you know the difference?2?2' like ok, calm down. Just because it's fictional doesn't mean that it's not rooted in reality. It's open to criticism and you don't need to take everything as a personal attack.
YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL!
First of all, I'll start by saying that I love the MCs and this story, it's really well done. So please, no idiots comment saying I shouldn't read it if I don't like it, it'll make you look like an idiot.
Ok then. Rant time.
1st, Taejun was also at fault for starting an affair with a married man with a kid, probably twice his age and expecting smooth sailing. Unless the other woman/man was oblivious, they're also at fault for fucking a cheater. Don't get me wrong, Prof. was also in the wrong, but blaming him for Taejun's death was an emotionally plausible, but idiotic statement. Also, that line about Taejun committing suicide being his own choice or something he did for himself for the first time was pretty messed up. Suicide is basically a person giving away their agency; it's not a choice, it's the absence of one. Nonetheless, Prof.'s ending was bittersweet and realistic and I actually really liked him from what little I saw.
2nd, the Hyung and Uncle's relationship was just a shoddy, idiotic attempt at giving every 'pitiful' character a happy ending. It was so unnecessary that their entire arc made me cringe.
3rd, Juha and Doyoon were for me, really underdeveloped. I could never forgive Juha for that comment he told Taeyi about how he couldn't even save his own brother, something he never even apologize forヽ(`Д´)ﾉ IDGAF how traumatised someone is, if I was in Taeyi's shoes and they said that about my dead brother, I'd break their jaw or at least only move on with a proper apology but Juha did neither yet I'm supposed to like him? He also assaulted Seheon, a character I'm actually invested in and he also gave a half-assed apology and the whole thing was then brushed right off. Also, when tf did Doyoon get time to fall in love Juha in the first place? Juha hung mainly around Taeyi and ignored Doyoon, when did Doyoon fall in love with him? Was it while his ankle was being crushed? Or was it because of the 'sad' look in Juha's eyes that made you pity him while the asshole broke your ankle like omg this sad boi, I'm sooo gay(▰˘◡˘▰) Did his bones being crushed make him horny like?? （/TДT)/ Even that apology is half-assed and Doyoon excuses it because he's 'in love' with Juha, like babe, that's toxic. Juha is the classic example of 'I had a terrible childhood and now I'm a jackass so that excuses my actions', like bro . . . you're about to fucking graduate, couldn't you have thought of IDK, seeing a therapist? Doyoon also became a fucking idiot whenever Juha was around, like bruh, your crush assaulted someone, you still like them so you're a fucking idiot anyways, but then you made them both sit uncomfortably together during a trip and failed to inform the victim so you could get laid. These two just made me uncomfortable and you could've added in a voice-over for their parts and the story wouldn't change. It'd be better even. At least Taeyi and Seheon address the violent parts in their initial relationship with Seheon taking shit from no one, that's my baby (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Finally, Juhee was just a fucking nightmare. I hate it when girls are portrayed as utter bitches in media but that bitchiness is normalised. Like bro, I don't need to tell you whom I'm dating if I reject you. I could be the loneliest person in the world, still reject you and not owe you any explanation. Fuck off.
Of course, Taeyi and Seheon were the best and no I don't take criticism. I'd give this a solid 3 out of 5. Not bad.
Ps. the character sketch of Juha was hot if not cliche in the beginning, they just turned him into a caricature of a repressed gay boi during his arc with Doyoon. Sad.