boohoo I'm not a monster i just kill human for food .are you serious? i really hate the fa...

The whole idea in the plot was about not making sense and demonXvampire happily ever after (till the end of universe). Don't go so hard on yourself on this plot ╮(￣▽￣)╭

yeah i know but her other works were good so it was hard to not take this seriously... Raising a Bat was about vampires and the couple had a happy ending but was still good. and also this story have some good parts to it like i really loved the serial killer and his relationship with the cop i also liked the ending that he got it pretty depressing but he got what he deserves. (it doesn't make sense that the police set him free but ...), what i'm saying the manhwa wasn't THAT trashy there is certain parts that you can take seriously.

Haha I get what you mean(≧∀≦) can't disagree. But I remember raising a bat was from different artist. Was reading it when it was ongoing but stopped after a while. Was it good till the end for to pick up again?

yeah it's from a different artist but what i mean is that not every manhwa that have a vampire who have a happy ending with his lover is a trashy manhwa that why i brought raising a bat as an example. yep just pick up it again, the manhwa is completed anyway .

Haha I see. OK will check it. Thanks

I know, I didn’t thougt of him as a victim but I always compare this topic with human killing animals, we do that to eat but there’s other way to feed and we still kill animals and eat them every day, I see it like that

yeah i knew someone will drop this comment, anyway they are not alike since vampire live with humans talks with humans they are friends with humans,they are equal to human.

with your logic we will have to say the same thing about cannibalism, even though they can eat normal food but they still kill people and eat them.

Sorry for diving your convo here, but

have you ever read Tokyo ghoul? I didn't watch the anime but I really love the manga. The idea actually revolves around your thoughts in kafkaesque style at start and it's like the question of "if ghouls had to live in human world with their food ground surrounded and had to fed with human flesh what would be the solutions?" I remember they had options and not every one of them were hunting but they were constantly hunted too for their existence. For example if sharks are eating human in the sea, is it OK for us to slain them? Do our species really have a solid superiority?
I know this topic is unrealistic but so many plots are revolving around vampires, ghouls, even zombies.. And I kind of get your concerns. Because if we romanticise this, will this damage our values of humanity for effects of it on younger audiance?

nah there is no problem, yeah i watched the anime i wasn't a big fan of it i read the first 15 chapters of the manga also drop it, tokyo ghoul wasn't my jam , but i get what you mean though, i think if you form a danger to the humanty ofcourse humans will hate you and they will find a way to kill you they also need to survive like how you need to survive.i think our case is more complicated than us eating animals, if you killed a father you know he isn't the only one that he will be the victim his family are also will suffer from poverty and stuff it's not like i'm saying vampires, ghouls,zombies shouldn't survive i just don't like the media victimizing them but villainize humans, those creatures would kill humans for surviving and humans would kill these creatures for surviving. it's a fair battle. Bokhee trying to survive like everyone he is fine with killing, if he really felt some remorse for killing humans maybe i will feel sorry for him but he doesn't, if he starves himself i will feel sorry for him but he doesn't. so i don't feel sorry for him and i hate how the artist victimized him and villainize humans for hating him and trying to kill him before he kills more humans.

:D I see how you're thinking and it's an interesting perspective. You wouldn't like kuroshitsuji maybe with same aspect. I only watched the anime years ago, I don't like the switches between actual drama and slap stick comedy though. The butler character was the devil and the story was about his contract. But Angels were like villains. I think some people like the reverse morals for the plot. （￣へ￣）oh did you read Killing Stalking? Any thoughts on that?

i don't think sebastian is like Bokhee though the artist didn't bother victimizing Sebastian i think he is bad though,don't misunderstand me i really love villains like i don't know if you know danganronpa but i really love junko enoshima.and also i don't know if you played danganronpa 2 but i like characters with gray moral i really love komaeda he isn't good and he isn't bad either he is so complicated and when you play his free time you will understand why he is like that. i don't think he can kill though he mostly manipulate people to kill , it up to you if you forgive him or not. i think danganronpa really make you question your morality, the killing happen and when the killer is revealed most of time the killer have a legitimate reason for why he done like he done it because their friends or for the family or to end the killing game, and you will really have a hard time to blame them and you will totally forget about the victim and start feeling sorry for the killer rather than the victim (most of times for some reason i can't forget about the victims every time i scream at the game for totally forgetting about the victim and focusing on making us feel sorry for the killer) . i like killing stalking lol the killer was obviously mentally ill i know people wanted him to survive , but i liked the ending i'm glad he didn't got a happy ending i liked him but him having a sad past isn't an excuse for what he done.

i forgot about death note kira had a really noble cause at first but a lot of innocent people died because of this cause do you stand for what he done or you are against it? sometimes it not either black or white there is a gray to it.

First time seeing danganropa. You said play, is it a game? Yea I like when author keep the character as it is as an anti-hero. Black white is kind of boring, reminds me 80s-00s Hollywood action movies. There is an all able character living for justice and the opponent is just evil. I don't know if its a political agenta to keep such plots incoming to shape audiance's mind.... But they became super boring. That's why I also liked killing stalking just don't understand the fans of sangwoo. Is it something like flat earth believers I wonder :D Sebastian was like the seme I guess hahaha not just the title though. Just doing his devil duties. Yea death note was like that. I think it's one of the best of such gray scale plots. I liked that they introduced near and mello like side characters, not exactly replacement of L, but two competing characters making use of their own skills resulting in collaboration. In my opinion they also were gray characters at times. They just wanted to see the end of case, nothing was emotional

actually danganronpa is a game it have three seasons the first game have an anime though.yep i totally agree most of time i find gray characters more appealing than the protagonist or the villain. i completely understand why sangwoo fans want him to have a happy ending though, i understand the feeling of wanting your character to be alive i suffered from that too XD. but what are going to do about it he is a serial killer it was clear that he was going to be taken to jail or he is going to be killed from the first chapter.i don't know if you read Where the Dragon's Rain Falls but su also pretty greyesh character i loved him, i know there isn't a lot of smut on the manhwa but i can't lie the manhwa was pretty interesting and i really really liked it . we don't get a lot of badassy uke character like him,i wasn't going to read it at first since i noticed it doesn't have a lot votes, and i thought the uke will be raped left and right and his character design really gave me the vibe of the typical uke (weak - passive - idiot ) which i hate this trope a lot, but i'm glad i read it in the end the manhwa really surprised me.

I literally thought of the same thing! Coz in the end when he drinks a person’s blood they turn to ash..isn’t that kinda worse than what the other guy was doing? At least with him, their family has a body to know what happened to them, but with the real vampire...there’s not even any trace left of that person...so I mean idk the vampire ain’t exactly innocent either. Ik he didn’t have a choice in being born a vampire but...argh he’s not exactly the victim here, like he should understand why humans fear him so much.

Don’t humans literally kill livestock and keep them in captivity for the sole purpose of raising them to be eaten?? Like in so many ways are we WORSE than them. So why are you getting mad at a fictional character for consuming to stay alive..?

lol first i'm not mad it's stupid to get mad at fictional character i always come of as mad but i'm not, seconde again don't compare animals to humans since vampire live with humans talks with humans they are friends with humans they do sex with humans, also if you killed a father or someone who take care of their family you know they aren't the only ones that they will be the victim their family are also will suffer from poverty and losing an important member that take care of the family,sorry i don't feel sorry for humans hating Bokhee of course they will hate him of course they will be scared of him, are you expecting from humans to welcome you and be nice to you even though you kill them ? yeah right Bokhee is waaaay better than humans he fuckes human and then he eat them. bokhee is not a victim in this story and this is a fact move on.

finally, someone understand thanks, i don't know why people defend him he isn't innocent if you eat humans for food expect humans will hate you and be scared of you.i think she made it when bokhee drinks a person’s blood they turn to ash because she didn't want bokhee have consequence of his action.

Peridot!! I couldn’t have said it better myself! Cant compare us to livestock, I’m pretty sure if anyone, animal or human knew they were gonna be eaten and killed, hell yea they’d be scared. Either way, though different motives, both the vampire and the serial killer are both commiting the same ends.