*The assailant was given the drug without him knowing. It's not like he drugged himself, but he was drugged. If u were ruve what would u feel about ur own comment ... if u were just a puppet, and manipulated by someone your whole life, you killed people and raped w/o your own will... I think u wouldn't be able to forgive yourself and that's just sad... I dont think ruve of this timeline will forgive himself either, so yeah dont worry, he will blame himself for the rest of his life (no sarcasm intended). Yeah, I understand what u mean, but let's move on ..
Of course I won’t forgive myself if I did those awful things even if I didn’t mean to do them while intoxicated or manipulated by someone else. But here’s the thing: I wouldn’t want to pursue a romantic relationship with my victim just because I was remorseful for my actions. Not sure how putting myself in Ruve’s position would back track my opinion though, but I know Ruve of this timeline won’t forgive himself either.
Ruve in the other timeline and Ruve in this timeline are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Please understand that he wouldn't have pursued a relationship with Aristia if he knew about what he had done. The point is that time has reminded, meaning that he doesnt have any memories of him doing that to her
Yes, I understand that this is a different timeline and that he wouldn’t have done this if he had known. But that doesn’t change the fact that Tia was still raped and abused and that she still have memories of that time. PTSD doesn’t just disappear within a minute and what someone felt during the experience(s) would still be in their memories. I’m not asking for the current Ruve to die a painful death, I just don’t understand why Tia and Ruve are end-game with this kind of context.
Oh ok, then this comes down to personal experiences then. I just asked my father if he was someone like Ruve, he said he doesn't care because he hasn't done anything in this lifetime, and as his daughter, I would hate to see him condemn himself and hate himself for something he didn't do, and forbid himself to love my mother
Well, in this context, this is kinda like a healing process for both Tia and Ruve. Tia confronts her feelings (love for Ruve, bc she loved him and she still does) and her PTSD (basically her challenge is loving someone despite PTSD) and Ruve's challenge is to forgive himself , seize the chance to live a happier life and to accept affection from Tia IF she is ready to accept him for who he is. Ofc if she is not ready then bye bye Ruve
But he overheard her past life tho
Ofc that is if my mom wanted to love him despite his past life, if not bye bye myself then, I wasnt born in this timeline
Current Ruve wasn’t manipulated yet, but past Ruve did and how can Tia be able to differentiate when they both have the same image? I’m pretty sure your dad doesn’t humiliate or assaults your mom like the past Ruve did to Tia and is actually a decent man, which means he doesn’t have to hold the same accountability that Ruve does.
It’s not just about his past life, it’s about HIM hurting HER repeatedly to the point that Tia lost her self-worth until time reversed. If you committed a crime or have an addiction yet you want to improve yourself and apologize sincerely by going to rehab or helping others, then I’m okay with that. Yet Ruve is completely unaware about how his actions would affect her. Yes, he read Tia’s and Alledis’ letters about her past life, but instead of respecting her privacy and being honest about breaking off the engagement, he remained stubborn and even backhugged her in a moment of passion.
Hmmm...trying to be in Ruve's shoes rn if I were Ruve perhaps I would hug her as well, cause the moment was right and I really loved her despite all of that... about respect for her....hmm... but Ruve besides his feelings has helped her a lot tho? He believes she will become a very good ruler and it's even fine for him to her to be the head of the house Monique, it's just that the King is not happy with that lol the prince just didn't react to that cause I dont think he can just call off the engagement like that just out of the blue, without talking things out with Tia, cause he cant really say that he eavesdropped her letter cause that's privacy invasion. It's better for tia to say it directly to ruve, because it's always better to hear it in person than hear second hand info.
But yeah I would be scared of Ruve too if I was Tia. This manhwa really is a tragedy. Seriously this situation is very difficult for both Tia and Ruve.
And also, I get what ur trying to say, but it's too soon to make any hypothesis now, so I will read this all before making any assumptions. Thx for ur opinion
Um, it doesn’t matter if I love the person or not, I shouldn’t be touching them without their permission. That’s hella uncomfortable :/ Just because someone likes you doesn’t mean you have to reciprocate. This story has a lot of miscommunication and even though they have feelings for each other, they hurt each other (especially Ruve @ Tia) and I hope their children have a healthier love life compared to them in the future if the author decides to make a sequel or spinoff.
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The poison for an unknown reason only affects his mind when it comes to treating Tia but he was completely fine in dealing with other stuff. If the poison is actually affecting his mind, the kingdom would have collapsed or be ruined before Tia but nope, it only works when he saw Tia. It's hilarious when they were taught to avoid drinking poison using specific tea sets and utensils from very young. Even more hilarious is that after Tia's death, he is still getting poisoned regularly but for some reason, he is now able to think rationally and able to control his rage under the poison influence. It makes you wonder if is he even consuming the same poison or the poison has the special effect of "hate Tia only".
Both. Cause Zena's influence + drug. And also guilt after harming her pushed him to self control.
What nonsense are you spouting? As I've said before, If the poison is actually affecting his mind, the kingdom would have collapsed or be ruined before Tia but nope, it only works when he saw Tia.
To everyone saying that we’ll change our mind about Ruve because (SPOILER)
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... he was poisoned and he wasn’t in the right mind when he abused Tia, I literally don’t care. It doesn’t change that he still did those things. That’s like excusing someone’s rape because the assailant was drunk, even though the victim will still have that trauma for the rest of their life. It’s not like after Tia found out about this, she can change Ruve’s image to Duke Zenna’s when she was raped and abused by a manipulated Ruve. This timeline’s Ruve hadn’t done those things, but you can tell hard it is for Tia to differentiate between them and I don’t want to see her be uncomfortable around him.
There’s so many chances for Tia to become the Marchioness. Being a knight still counts as following the Monique oath since she’ll swearing her loyalty to the royal family, and the current emperor actually allowed her to do so. And the other MLs are literally second sons of important families who are able to marry into the Moniques, unlike Ruve who had no choice but to become the future Emperor. This story is intriguing, but man does it stiffle a lot of opportunities.