sad and confused

Relakuma February 12, 2015 6:07 pm

wow.....i..um...wow..that was really really unexpected, i think it was a really good story, though tragic. >.< he lost his father, became the substitute of women for many men and the emperor who "killed" his father. i feel really bad for yan.
but i'm really confused as to how the father ended up as he did, i mean i understand that he went crazy from drugs and sex, but how the heck did he end up dead and on display, when the emperor loved him so much?!? i mean the emperor who claims to love him, wouldn't have treated him like that after death right?!? so confused and sad right now. :C

Responses
    I Thot You Was a Toad February 13, 2015 2:37 am

    The Emperor is an interesting case, isn't he? I suspect, like all abusers, he mentally minimizes the actual damage he causes to others on the one hand, and completely rationalizes his behaviour on the other, concluding to himself that it's all out of love. (Totally different league of literature here, but think of Raskolnikov in Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment, and all the mental rigamarole and gymnastics he put his psyche through before and after taking an ax to his landlady.)

    ********** February 13, 2015 2:40 am

    I believe the emperor had to banish him from his palace; the father did hurt the emperor. Though the emperor may pardon the father, his ministers wouldn't. Also, the emperor may not have been informed of what happened to the father, as he was still recovering n etc. However, when he did find out, it was already too late. The father was castrated, and died of blood loss. .....i am just rambling at this point.....and this is just a mere assumption.

    Relakuma February 13, 2015 12:31 pm
    I believe the emperor had to banish him from his palace; the father did hurt the emperor. Though the emperor may pardon the father, his ministers wouldn't. Also, the emperor may not have been informed of what h... @**********

    ahh~ i see, it sort of makes sense now. i knew that the emperor wasn't mad at the father for stabbing his eye, so i didn't understand how/why the father was killed. But since you mentioned the emperor recovering from the injury, and the possible deeds that could have occurred during that period, it makes sense now that it could have been the ministers who killed the father and ordered him to be displayed.

    Relakuma February 13, 2015 12:47 pm
    The Emperor is an interesting case, isn't he? I suspect, like all abusers, he mentally minimizes the actual damage he causes to others on the one hand, and completely rationalizes his behaviour on the other, co... I Thot You Was a Toad

    hmm, see, i didn't think the emperor was abusive, but more obsessive. well, he wasn't abusive in a violent sense where he would beat the father. Although he probably did rape the father after capturing him (i think), because he "loved" him in a obsessive and possessive way. Which i think lead to the the father being overdosed with drugs, making him go crazy. but to the emperor, that was all fine, he could still love the father even when he was crazy, because he still "had" the father, like he still "owned" or has the father in his "possession", which in the emperors mind was all he needed, because like you mentioned, he rationalized his behaviour as being ok, because it was out of love.
    and, i'm sorry, i didn't understand the literature you were talking about >.<

    Juno February 13, 2015 10:40 pm
    hmm, see, i didn't think the emperor was abusive, but more obsessive. well, he wasn't abusive in a violent sense where he would beat the father. Although he probably did rape the father after capturing him (i t... Relakuma

    Interjection: the Emperor did order his soldiers to rape the Western King, even if he didn't do it himself. Just because he wasn't the one penetrating his former ally and partner in crime doesn't absolve him from complicity. Negligent manslaughter or homocide is considered a crime in many countries. I would say he was an abuser, even if he never lifted a finger to actually lay it on his victims. Yes, he was also obsessive. One fault doesn't negate the existence of the other.

    Relakuma February 14, 2015 12:50 pm
    Interjection: the Emperor did order his soldiers to rape the Western King, even if he didn't do it himself. Just because he wasn't the one penetrating his former ally and partner in crime doesn't absolve him fr... Juno

    its just when i thought of abuser, i sort of presumed the abuser being the abusive one, where he/she would perform the action. but now that i actually think about it, i see that the abuser could also be the one giving the commands. actually, while thinking about what you wrote, i sort of recalled a lot of manga's like that, where the abuser not only physically abused their partners (which was usually the uke), but sometimes they would sell the uke to "clients" to get money. And because i recalled those few manga's, it gave me that "aha!" moment, which helped me understand your comment xD