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agreed!!! i think the seme is good he just may have some deep past he’s trying to deal with :(( i really never hate on people until the end !! we never know what’s coming next it’s too early too judge

He raped jooin tho' so there's really a reason for the hates

"having trust issues and trauma" is neither a reason nor an excuse for raping and emotionally manipulating and exploiting other people. I'm gonna ask folks to actually read up on these complex issues and stop relying on webtoon plot logic to understand human behaviour for the love of god and megan thee stallion.

^^^ Thank you

FACTS

He did. The first time they had sex, jooin is drunk and HE DID NOT GIVE ANY CONSENT. JOOIN DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER what happened that time

PREACH

Exactly

The by that logic the bottom raped the seme then as well...

Then the bottom raped the top too then...

Literally everyone is so quick to jump the gun but it’s like guys what is he going through we need more information

It's rape. You came here trying to excuse it away with the tiresome, damaging, destructive, problematic "excuse" of "He has issues". Here is an option: you can continue to enjoy the story and have your favourite characters without trying to promote dangerous perspectives on heavy issues you clearly need to read more about. Recognise that the way BL creators employ rape in their storylines to develop romance and create "tragic" bad boy heroes while making no effort to convey the actual traumatic impact it has on all those involved + the way the real world also doesn't treat rape seriously has helped to convince you your point is one worth making. It's not. Swallow the fact that a "he did it too!" is in no way the triumphant clapback you want it to be because it changes nothing about your first statement especially since you're still in denial about what you did.

I harbour no illusions about my ability to change your mind but I will never, EVER stop making this point. If at any time anyone here has ever had this done to them and doubted and blamed themself, and made excuses for the rapist because that person "had problems" they will come across my and other comments and know that we see this horrible act for what it is and that their pain is real and valid and that what was done to them was wrong. There is *nothing* in the rapist's past that can excuse it because that is not how ANY of that works. Do. Your. Research. and recognise a crappy (however much we may enjoy it) BL plot for what it is.

Lord have mercy then using your logic the bottom raped the top as well am I correct?

Both parties are wrong literally...and you obviously don’t understand when someone has mental issues how it impacts their interactions with people and those around them they both raped each other therefore are both wrong and are most likely dealing with mental shit I get why you’re upset and no you’re not changing my mind. It doesn’t excuse they both raped each other just cause one raped the other gives no excuse for it to happen to the other person. All I was saying at first was that not to hate on the semi too bad for flinching away from the uke cause I know if roles were reversed everyone would give even more hate towards the top. I was just saying to wait for more information about the semis mindset and past and what trauma he has dealt with to be unemotionally Available and not wanting to be attached towards anyone. It is extremely obvious that he has gone through some shit as he is confused hella with the ukes advances he’s use to being used (not surprised) Taking a look at both mental states

how tf did jooin raped yahwi, he's drunk and doesn't know what happened that time while yahwi exactly know what he did and he take advantaged of jooin's situation. Lol are u reading a different story lmao.

He was still drunk and under the influence you could say the same thing happened with the bottom and top but it was still rape when it happened he was drinking and under the influence still deeming it rape

You can’t pick and choose what to deem rape to whatever you see fit you don’t pick and choose. No matter what both parties literally raped each other the semi was clearly drinking and the uke at the beginning was also drinking. It was rape on both parts both parts were in the wrong. Sorry to break it to you but the bottom did rape the top

Lord have mercy, research logical fallacies and see if you can spot which one this falls into. And if you can actually *name* any of the mental issues you speculate this character has it might imply you have a clue but you can't. As for that other laughable comment the word "flinching" does not appear once in your original comment so try again--actually, don't.

Someone suggested you're reading a different story--at this point, I doubt your reading skills entirely. So I'm muting this. Level up those reading skills and access some decent literature produced by a women's advocacy group in your country about sexual violence. Good night.

Actually there is a shit ton of signs to show that he has been through some trauma and stuff and good go to bed because the last thing I need is someone like you being bitchy because it’s fucking annoying as hell you obviously need to reread this entire thing and actually look at the signs and actually be open minded to shit because you are so fucking close minded that it’s absolutely hilarious that you can’t even see these signs and it’s not about reading sweetie they’re fucking pictures The fuck am I leveling up my reading skills for when there’s just pictures are you dumb are you dumb I’m guessing you’re gonna pick A and B Because you obviously don’t know shit about anything you want to talk all big but anyone who knows what you’re actually saying knows you sound stupid as hell because this is Isn’t a chapter book or a book you have to analyze and read between the lines and sweetie I know a thing or two about sexual violence and mental issues I am fascinated on the human mind and how it works You obviously don’t because you obviously can’t even see signs within fucking pictures damn I can’t imagine you judging someone’s character. So actually go level up your observing skills and understanding skills of the human brain and how it is expressed through action, and expression because you obviously need it. (≧∀≦)