Okay hear me out

TodoChokeMe August 23, 2020 12:20 pm

CONTAINS SPOILERS




I hated how this story ended. I am one of the few who have read the ENTIRE DAMN novel.

This story was unique and exhilarating to watch and read. I absolutely LOVED how he was portrayed in the anime. But, even though the creators wanted us to have 3 different views on the story, [I made a comment about this earlier] the manga makes Ayanokoji out to be bland. He isn't as exciting to see anymore.

AND at the end of the novel Ayanokoji CONFESSES his love for Kei. I hated that shit. Honestly I don't even know why they needed to add romance to this. It would've been way better off without it.

Ayanokoji wanted to get away from his father, he wanted to be the best and knew he was more clever than all of them. He USED people as tools to get what he wanted and did it in a way were he couldn't get caught or if he did get caught, he'd have a back up plan to make sure he was completely off the hook.

He made people suspicious of him ON PURPOSE, he tricked people into thinking that they've got everything wrapped around THEIR finger, but really, Ayanokoji was the one in control.

SO- why add romance??

This was a thrilling story to begin with and the anime actually made me realize a genre that i absolutely loved.

The ending with Ayanokoji becoming soft and confessing to someone really made me think, "What the hell". I didn't come for romance, I came for the unique plot and character Ayanokoji was. I came for psychological thriller, not a school romance,

Responses
    TodoChokeMe August 24, 2020 1:40 pm
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    Sadly yes. Kei and Ayanokoji In fact T^T

    Lavender~ August 24, 2020 3:58 pm

    omg nooooo. why would the authors give it a highschool romance whyyyyyy. it was perfect the way it was with the "competition to be the best between highschoolers" kinda vibes. i just wanted my physiological thriller too. I can't see ayanokoji getting together with anyone myself. confessing his "love" especially. like maybe when the story itself is concluded at the most. like once they are out of school and going their own ways. but whyyyyy (/TДT)/

    TodoChokeMe August 25, 2020 1:20 pm
    omg nooooo. why would the authors give it a highschool romance whyyyyyy. it was perfect the way it was with the "competition to be the best between highschoolers" kinda vibes. i just wanted my physiological thr... Lavender~

    EXACTLY. They ruined their amazing story with a high school romance. It would've been way better if they stuck with Ayanokoji being apathetic and heartless rather than romantic

    Irmawa September 12, 2020 9:01 am
    Sadly yes. Kei and Ayanokoji In fact T^T TodoChokeMe

    Kei Karuizawa? The gal that was with the D leader? How the living fuck did that happen?

    TodoChokeMe September 12, 2020 10:11 am
    Kei Karuizawa? The gal that was with the D leader? How the living fuck did that happen? Irmawa

    SPOILERS


    Well, Ayanokoji blackmailed Kei after finding out her secret. He said he would protect her from the people who bullied her if she helped him in return.

    They grew close.

    Kei was the first person to remember and tell him "happy birthday"
    and he did the same

    They just kept working together and eventually opened up with one another.

    And Ayanokoji asked her out and she said yes.

    Irmawa September 12, 2020 10:21 am
    SPOILERSWell, Ayanokoji blackmailed Kei after finding out her secret. He said he would protect her from the people who bullied her if she helped him in return.They grew close.Kei was the first person to remembe... TodoChokeMe

    WWWWWWWWWAT bruh wtf I thought he would end up with Suzune or at the very least Sakura I never once considered Kei as a love interest for Ayanokoji why the fuck is it about romance anyway I thought classroom of the elite was about Psychological shit

    TodoChokeMe September 12, 2020 3:42 pm
    WWWWWWWWWAT bruh wtf I thought he would end up with Suzune or at the very least Sakura I never once considered Kei as a love interest for Ayanokoji why the fuck is it about romance anyway I thought classroom of... Irmawa

    Suzune would've been a way too obvious outcome for the "psychological" tag. The main point of the story is to make you "not suspect" it would happen. Sakura was also one of the popular choices to be with Ayanokoji, but he already knew about Sakura, he could see through her. He liked Sakura more than Horikita as well. So Sakura and Horikita were never actually a choice, just a distraction until Kei came along.

    Irmawa September 13, 2020 2:39 am
    Suzune would've been a way too obvious outcome for the "psychological" tag. The main point of the story is to make you "not suspect" it would happen. Sakura was also one of the popular choices to be with Ayanok... TodoChokeMe

    I think I'm gonna give up reading the novel

    TodoChokeMe September 13, 2020 9:34 am
    I think I'm gonna give up reading the novel Irmawa

    Only if you'd like! I read the whole thing despite knowing the outcome to see what his journey was like beforehand. But, it's your decision.

    midnighteve September 13, 2020 7:30 pm
    Only if you'd like! I read the whole thing despite knowing the outcome to see what his journey was like beforehand. But, it's your decision. TodoChokeMe

    could you tell me where you read the novel for this?

    TodoChokeMe September 13, 2020 8:33 pm
    l3ear November 8, 2020 11:27 am

    I totally understand why everyone is hating the news that Kei will eventually end up with Ayanokoji. However, that's only ATM.

    In the coming storyline, you'll come to realize why Kei gets together with Ayanokoji. It's a growing progress, not in a span of a single volume or a few chapters, but volumes. There will also be a scene in volume 7 that'll making you really like Kei as the main girl. However, that's my subjective opinion. (However, to this day my favourite volume in this novel's story so far is volume 7.)

    Also, to give a comparison on where we are on current manga's storyline to the novel, we're at the beginning of volume 4 of the light novels. They get together in volume 11.5 of the novel.

    Now to explain something about the novel. The novel consists of volumes with a official volumes with a numbers and volumes with .5 appended onto it. Volumes with a .5 appended onto the volume number typically are intermission volumes that detail side-story like events between the main volumes. Kei and Ayanokoji gets together in one of these volumes, so this is why romance still technically seem like a huge plot player as of yet.

    The latest novel is currently in second year. almost at the end of first semester. Although, they're together, I have yet to see any plot points related to romance as of yet. However, I can't say for sure for future volumes, so don't contradict me if you're some future person down the road.

    l3ear November 8, 2020 11:30 am

    Fixing my mistake:

    Kei and Ayanokoji gets together in one of these volumes, so this is why romance still technically seem like a huge plot player as of yet.

    ->

    Kei and Ayanokoji gets together in one of these volumes, so "high school romance" still doesn't seem like a huge plot player as of yet.

    TodoChokeMe November 8, 2020 3:28 pm
    Fixing my mistake:Kei and Ayanokoji gets together in one of these volumes, so this is why romance still technically seem like a huge plot player as of yet. -> Kei and Ayanokoji gets together in one of these ... l3ear

    Yeah, most of the readers are pretty pissed at this though. They turned such an amazing and unique story into a romance. And I can tell you for a FACT that NONE of us came for that. We were intrigued by Ayanokoji himself. We FELL IN LOVE with his way of thinking, how smart he was, how quick-witted, his personality, his past. We loved it. We wanted more of that, no a cliche highschool romance.

    Yaoi On Ice November 8, 2020 5:37 pm

    i think they add the romance to make ayanokoji look more human cause he looks like a cyborg

    idk well the romance its okay for me

    Lavender~ November 8, 2020 9:20 pm

    Even though I’d like it to stay a psychological and thriller genre, ive come to actually be okay with a hint of romance. As long as it doesn’t turn into a harem and Ayanokoji starts using this dick instead of his head, I’m okay with it. Ayanokoji deserves to be happi

    l3ear November 8, 2020 9:48 pm
    Yeah, most of the readers are pretty pissed at this though. They turned such an amazing and unique story into a romance. And I can tell you for a FACT that NONE of us came for that. We were intrigued by Ayanoko... TodoChokeMe

    Firstly, I somewhat agree with the fact where most people didn't really expected romance coming into the story, however it's not like everyone is adverse with the idea of romance in the story, including myself. I mean look at all the Ichinose and Kei fans in the current fandom.

    Secondly, again, where in the story did the whole story become a solely orientated around romance? Romance, from my perspective, still looks like a small aspect of the story or maybe a potential plot device.

    Thirdly, Ayanokoji, as much as I love Ayanokoji's personality, I would very much like to see how he develops as a character throughout the story. After all, essentially all his life he was molded by the white room and his father. I want the chance to see where he grows as a person independently. In my opinion, watching someone always winning sometimes gets boring, so reading volume 11 was interesting despite the reason.

    Fourthly, is Ayanokoji really in love with Kei(, or the Author simply bad at writing romance)? I'm going to explain why I said this point. I'll be writing some spoilers.

    SPOILER ALERT:







    Going back to how they get together. (Screw writing in paragraphs, I'm summarizing in point form.)
    1. Ayanokoji anonymously sicks bullies at Kei.
    2. Ayanokoji "saves" the day to get information out of Kei.
    3. We find out Kei has been bullied all through middle school, hence the self-serving personality.
    4. Proceeds to use Kei as a gopher between volumes.
    5. Ayanokoji leaves some minor information Kei is helping "X", which is ofc Ayanokoji.
    5. Ryuen and his gang proceeds to capture and "torture" information from Kei to find out the identity of X's identity.
    6. Ayanokoji watches all this. Kei is revealed to that "X" was the one who caused all the misery in point 1, but despite all that she still does not reveal the identity of X.
    7. Ayanokoji eventually reveals himself and rescues Kei.
    8. Kei is still works with Ayanokoji despite everything.
    9. Eventually, gets together.

    Now I need ask where exactly did Ayanokoji fall in love with Kei? From an objective perspective, I see Kei as a girl who, has many problems,

    1) does not revealing her perpetrator of her "bullying" despite any conditions (, an unhealthy habit she possibly retained from her bullied days),
    2) suffers from Stockholm syndrome for Ayanokoji, and lastly,
    3) appears to be the perfect tool for Ayanokoji.

    Anyways, from my points and Ayanokoji's personality, I'm reluctantly saying... isn't Ayanokoji just using Kei, since she essentially has the best qualities of a tool.
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    Hopefully, we'll see Kei get some character development there...

    Kgreen14 December 16, 2020 8:44 am

    Where did you read the novel or whole story pls

    Chrome123 March 17, 2021 6:19 am

    If you are mad over Kiyo wanting a normal human relationship, then maybe you miss the entire premise of the series since volume 1. Kiyo entire desire is to experience normal life, that means making friends and having romantic relationship. Throughout the entire novel, you can read his desire sprinkled all over. However, his desire is always in conflict with his disposition. Wanting and actually accomplishing what you desire is not the same thing. Clearly, despite Kiyo's wish to be normal, he is anything but. He is well aware of this, that is why his monologue is full of contradiction.