It's whatever at this point.....

For sure! Like totally, at this point it is what it is and Haesoo needs to think about himself in the long run.

Yes, the seme's are both being childish and selfish wanting to keep Haesoon basically cause they don't want anyone else to have him. Haesoon keeps leaning towards anyone who shows the smallest interest in him at that moment; which says a lot on how sad and lonely he is. As much as I wish they weren't going about the way they are cause I definitely want to pick someone but I just can't.

I sat here rewriting this over and over because I'm confusing myself lol

I feel like Tae kinda is in his own way, has a blaming manner too; like when he talks about being with Haesoo...I feel like he's blaming Haesoo for some reason. Tae has a habit of telling Haesoo to use him for love or relationship and I feel like he's doing that to make Haesoo feel guilty for some reason. Sometimes I think Tae's mindset is a little dark and I will always continue to say that he really is somewhat emotionless and I feel like he could never really love Haesoo.

For EX 1. but in a way, I feel like he did blame Haesoo especially by answering his phone call. Aside from making Joowon jealous by answer Haesoo call and saying those things; he knew that would stir the pot for Joowon and Haesoo too. Tae did tell Haesoo that Joowon came over but that nothing happened cause I feel like he wants Joowon to blurt that part out himself.

For EX 2. I totally agree with you that Joowon does have a blaming manner but I get it cause Haesoo did push Joowon's buttons and would make him jealous on purpose when they were teens. How Joowon acts towards Haesoo now is how Haesoo wanted Joowon to act in the past so I kinda get why Joowon says that. I know Haesoo was hurt when Joowon told him not to fall for him but I think it was so they could be a family still but obviously that didn't work out.

but again that chapter/flashback puts light on how Joowon felt for Haesoo when they were teens; Haesoo knew this and would make him jealous so Haesoo used Joowoo's emotions against him too as teens. Tae hasn't done anything that really shows that he's willing to hurt himself instead of Haesoo plus Tae also said he wanted Haesoo just so he can toss him away. I feel like the only time Tae wants Haesoo is when Haesoo mind goes towards Joowon and I don't feel like it's cause Tae's jealous.


( I'M SORRY IF THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE; I'M BAD AT WRITING MY THOUGHTS OUT )
(SO PLEASE DON'T HATE ME)
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What are you kidding; you're a lot better at putting your thoughts out than me ╥﹏╥

Yes, you're right but sometimes it's hard to do that especially if you let your emotions cloud your judgment. Wait, doesn't that kinda go against what you were saying about the past? (that's a real question lol) I mean the sex tape is already well known; when Tae was at the store and saw Haesoo for the first time and the way Haesoo was acting made Tae kinda interested; obviously Tae is smart enough to know-how fiction or non-fiction Haesoo stories were. I feel like the only reason Tae even brought up the sex tape to Haesoo was to show him what type of person he is; like to relate to Haesoo stories in away.

For sure, Joowoo is definitely still living in the past cause when he looked in the mirror he saw himself as a teen but I also feel like Haesoo is stuck there too but you're right about him trying to move forward.

I honestly would really love to know more about Tae! He was even kinda cold to his ex-boyfriend; I kinda have a feeling that he had a normal life and he's just that way because lol but I loved it was added how they kinda saw each other when they were teens even though it looks like they never met...

The reason I blame Haesoo for Joowon's behavior isn't only because of their past but cause Haesoo is also being selfish by keeping Joowon by his side too. He had many opportunities to walk away but kept coming back so he's also giving Joowon the upper hand by doing this and that's the point on how selfish they both are over these 10 years.

I know and I loved every minute of Tae doing so! and he looked so hot doing it too lol I did say it was to make Joowon mad but I still feel like Tae knows he's string the pot for those two; it's just going to make Joowon more clingy to Haesoo. It is for sure like the typical kdrama lol

Yeah that was rude on Joowon part for doing that but even though Tae was surprised; I think he most defiantly expected that lol

For some reason, I feel like the ulterior motive could have something to do when they saw each other when they were teens; like Haesoo could've slept with someone Tae knows or something but Idk, like you said these characters are too complex to just be simply good or bad so I feel like the outcome might not be what we expected...well at least I hope so cause then I'll like this way more than I already do lol

Well it's kinda expected from Joowon to do that; I feel like deep down Tae didn't want to tell Haesoo what happen cause 1) it was Joowon calling out Tae and 2) Haesoo might realize Joowon did it for him because he cares even more then what Haesoo thought he did, which might turn his gaze back towards Joowon.

YOU EXPLAINED YOURSELF GREAT!! ヾ(☆▽☆)

K literały was unprofessional and provoking Joowon during session when Joowon didn't even know who Taku is.

For Real! And it’s giving me a big headache too! I don’t want him with Joowon either and I’ve said in another post that I don’t even feel they could go back to being brothers or even friends. Yeah, I don’t even want him with Tae either; I feel like they all just need to focused on making themselves better. Now the fact that you said that makes me think you’re a little bias lol I mean you do point out Tae’s bad side but you also back him up a lot more too lol Which isn’t a bad thing when you like or have fav ships lol
(I ship no one cause I want them! I’ll take good care of them all lmao)

I don’t think that; I do know there was gossip going around about how it affected him back in Japan but I feel like it put too much light on him...like he wanted to be noticed because of his work not because of the tape.

Technically we don’t know that cause most of the flashbacks are mainly about Haesoo; for instance, when Joowon told Haesoo not to fall for him, Haesoo could’ve tried to make Joowon change his mind and did it for a while. I do remember someone saying how Joowon and Haesoo weren’t in contact for a while and Haesoo had away out but did go.

I’ve never really seen Haesoo get pissed off at Joowon; I feel like it’s when you yell at your dog for doing something bad but you baby them afterward lol

Just cause Tae hasn’t thrown someone under yet doesn’t mean he can’t and won’t cause I feel like Tae is waiting for the right moment to do so. Tae told Haesoo how he felt before he even met Joowon yet though but I guess it’s good that he didn’t make Joowon the other times he brought up how he felt to Haesoo. Well I mean he doesn’t tell Haesoo everything especially if it’s more about himself and not involving Haesoo even though it can’t affect him.

Not necessarily because giving a cold shoulder is just as rude; when Tae out of the blue wanted to work with Joowon and they met for the first time...you can tell Tae was looking down on Joowon (which don’t get me wrong, Joowon is an ass) Tae is a character that does keep you on your toes and keeps your interests cause it makes you wanna know his next moves or be inside his head. Of course, it’s not Tae’s fault that Joowon would get jealous but that was Tae’s intention anyways cause Tae gets jealous in his own way too (obviously not aggressive like Joowon) Yes cause Tae is actual competition for Joowon and can take Haesoo eyes away so that’s the difference between why Joowon never cared about the other guys and Haesoo knows that. I don’t think he cheated on them with Joowon; he differently used them but after he’d dump them he runs to Joowon (in my option) I feel like just because they’ve never said the words out loud, I feel like Joowon and Haesoo kinda are in away.

I think that’s the part where I feel Joowon actually doesn’t have more power in their relationship and that’s what’s making Joowon a little scared of the relationship developing between Tae and Haesoo. You’re I feel like Haesoo has acknowledged his past actions but most differently hasn’t reflected on them since he’s still doing it.

How I feel about Joowon now is not how I feel about him in the past cause the past him really seemed in love with Haesoo and how he is now is very toxic and is like a villain. Haesoo and Joowon had arguments but he did a lot to protect Haesoo; if anything the flashbacks put Haesoo as the villain a little back then. (obviously, it cause they weren’t mature at that age) I don’t like how everyone keeps blaming everything on Joowon and making him the only bad guy when Haesoo is just as bad; each and everything they do is because of each other. Some keep saying Joowon keeps using his past to justify how he acts but also uses the past in favor of Haesoo which is making Haesoo 100% a victim when he’s not and at least Tae sees that.

I totally get why you feel that and it’s not blunt or harsh but you do realize that Haesoo still cares for Joowon and if Tae hurts or provoked Joowon, in a way it will hurt Haesoo as well no matter what. Even if Haesoo doesn’t wanna be with Joowon, the love for him will never go away no matter how many years pass and how much hurt Joowon did or does to him.

Yeah but that’s the point neither of them gets

Yeah but that came a little later; when he first told him about the tape he never made that deal. Tae did say he told Haesoo that it would make a great part to the interview but I still like he really wanted to show Haesoo the video cause of how he wanted to relate to the sex columns Haesoo wrote.

No, I’m talking about how Tae found out at the time when he saw Haesoo and ex-boy toy in the bookstore; He was listening to the conversion and wanted to read the article in the mag so I mean Tae found out way before he even met Haesoo. I have so many ulterior motives scenarios in my head involving Tae lol

OMG, no I like that you're writing as much as me and going into detail cause you're now my favorite person!!! most don't go all out to actually talk about how they feel about a manga or the chachters so THANK YOU ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Lmfao? It wasn't rude? It was profession photo session. He with premeditation started provoking Joowon. Joowon didn't even know who this man is. But Taku knew. He had the upper hand there. He provoked him with premeditation. It was both rude and unprofessional.

Also lmfao you literally spammed under every post several pages back about Joowon.

NO NO NO NO, I want this to be a happy place; I was having so much fun having a good convo about this beautiful manga.....don't destroy my happiness, please ╥﹏╥

Sorry. I agree with your points although I think both of them hurt each other. But I'm going to wait and see how the story will develop.

It wasn't like K was smirking from the very beggining of their encounter. His attitude was rather unique. And Taku started mentioning and touching Joowon's life (as him never being lonely) before freeloading comments. Which indeed was also rude.

Yeah... But it was supposed to be simple photo session. And we know that Taku knew who Joowon is and he didn't bring up those topics randomly. He wanted to get reaction, he wanted to provoke him.

Oh it's clear Joowon didn't like him from the very start.
And I agree. Tbh every character did some shitty things.