Intense.

I Thot You Was a Toad August 22, 2014 2:31 am

Phew! Every time I'm finished a new chapter in this manga, I have to take a deep breath and let it out. Shirotani is so fragile, it's as though a puff of breath could shatter him. I hold my breath while he agonizes over ev-er-y lit-tle thi-ing. Kudos to Kurose for never exploding. He must really love Shirotani. Also, I love how Shirotani is able to use that love to engage more directly and realistically with the world. That's a beautiful message. But, damn! It's hard going.

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    erza kiss September 13, 2014 2:07 pm

    I thought ten count ws shounen ai bt it bcam yaio lyk it ws nthing stil lyk it though

    I Thot You Was a Toad September 17, 2014 5:14 am

    This is strictly a fantasy story, whatever the genre. There's no way a therapist would get away with pulling those sorts of stunts in most countries. Kurose would be drummed out of the profession, and might even end up in jail. His behaviour would be considered a radical breach of trust, and there are all kinds of articles written up about it in peer-reviewed professional journals about the subject of transference and love between therapists and their clients.

    As pure fantasy, though, I like it so far (up to chapter thirteen.) I don't know how much further the push into Shirotani's vulnerability I can take, though. If it gets into a stronger region of BDSM, I may have to drop it. I wouldn't be able to take Shirotani being even more emotionally damaged.

    marry September 17, 2014 9:45 am
    This is strictly a fantasy story, whatever the genre. There's no way a therapist would get away with pulling those sorts of stunts in most countries. Kurose would be drummed out of the profession, and might eve... I Thot You Was a Toad

    yes it is a fantasy story but that does not mean that some therapist do not sleep with their patients which is a breach of trust and unethical. But Kurose is not a therapist, he is a psychiatrist- transference is like likely in a psychiatrist and patient relationship as it is more about finding a treatment for the undesirable behavior. And it is hard to get a therapist 'drummed' out of there profession as in most cases it is He said/ she said and people will most likely believe the therapist over the patient unless of cause there is prior evidence or cases against the therapist. A therapist will not go to jail for having sex with their patients, they will only go to jail if they break the law like raping their patient or sleeping with their underage patient (of cause it has to be proven). Having sex with patients is only consider to be unethical and can only be punished by the board of whatever profession the person is in, in this case therapist.

    What Kurose is doing can be consider as exposure therapy (i think as i don't remember as the different types of therapies) i think it is the most effective for his disorder but since Kurose has feelings for Shirotani it makes his actions unethical and he could have used other methods instead of engaging in a sexual relations with Shirotani

    but regardless of the unethical behavior, i still really love this manga and as lover of BDSM (pure BDSM, not the ones you usually see in mangas) i can tell you there is so far no hint that this going to lead to a BDSM relationship

    I Thot You Was a Toad September 17, 2014 11:10 pm

    There are some very BDSM style pictures by Takarai Rihito posted somewhere in the comment threads, with Shirotani bound and blindfolded. It might be a metaphorical watermark image though.

    I'm not put off by the story so far with this sort of therapy being proposed as a form of fantasy healing technique in a fantasy manga (and psychiatrists who work like Kurose are considered therapists in my corner of the globe and would be subject to regulation.) I am nervous about Shirotani's mental and emotional state, though, and if the manga takes a turn for the dark ...

    It is a very good story so far, though, isn't it?

    I Thot You Was a Toad September 26, 2014 6:39 pm
    yes it is a fantasy story but that does not mean that some therapist do not sleep with their patients which is a breach of trust and unethical. But Kurose is not a therapist, he is a psychiatrist- transference ... marry

    Here's the link:
    http://pandanoi.tumblr.com/post/97652966128/277k-are-you-serious

    marry September 27, 2014 1:27 am
    Here's the link: http://pandanoi.tumblr.com/post/97652966128/277k-are-you-serious I Thot You Was a Toad

    did not know of there existence but those art are hot and so far in the story-line there haven't been an indication of BDSM. will it be so wrong, with both of there consent, that it become more bdsm style

    I Thot You Was a Toad September 27, 2014 2:08 am
    did not know of there existence but those art are hot and so far in the story-line there haven't been an indication of BDSM. will it be so wrong, with both of there consent, that it become more bdsm style marry

    I wouldn't say that it would be wrong, even if their relationship descends into abject darkness and misery, because it's fiction and it's up to the mangaka how to tell the story. There are plenty of very dismal tales about abuse and exploitation which haven't bothered to create such a compelling background of psychological tension and social taboo in the field of therapeutic recovery. That alone redeems this one. I may not LIKE how the story turns, especially if it descends into degradation, but I will still respect the mangaka's right to create it from her imagination and experience, which seems to be very powerful and creative. And if I don't like the story, it will be because the emotions overpower me, not because it's a story that was not well-told. Does that help explain how I feel a bit more clearly? (So far, I've loved it.)

    marry September 27, 2014 2:34 am

    yes it does but i have one question; are you correlating BDSM to misery and darkness? i know some people in real life who are in a bdsm relationship and they do not think of there relationship in that manor and they seem to be in a healthy relationship. i understand that bdsm is taboo in society and in most manga as long as it has mind control and some controlling asshole it gets view as bdsm which from my study of bdsm that is not the case of pure bdsm. for example before one can even enter a bdsm group they have to fill out a paper stating what they are ok with and not ok with, their safe words and there are so many rules that one can not break or they get kicked out. and bdsm relationship is about both partners getting pleasure not just one while the other is just putting up with it, and hating it. I guess what it boils down to is that i don't like it when people view the abusive relationships in manga to be that of true bdsm relationship

    I Thot You Was a Toad September 27, 2014 3:16 am
    yes it does but i have one question; are you correlating BDSM to misery and darkness? i know some people in real life who are in a bdsm relationship and they do not think of there relationship in that manor and... marry

    No. I'm correlating abuse, exploitation, degradation and betrayal to misery and darkness, especially in the context of a realistic cognitive therapy relationship between a psychiatrist and his client—which, so far, this isn't. It started off as one, but slipped off track into smexy fantasy-yaya-land in true yaoi-yaoi fashion. That sort of betrayal is the worst because what recourse is left to the emotionally damaged? Shirotani's connection to reality is tenuous and borderline at best. If Takarai Rihito decides to go dark, which is well within her rights as an artist, will the character shatter into fullblown psychosis? A fugue state? A murderous rampage? Suicide? This is the prospective direction this manga may take that triggers a bit of anxiety for the character of Shirotani, and any vulnerable people who might identify with him a little too closely. This is the sort of story which can cut pretty close to the bone.

    Fre March 5, 2016 4:48 am
    This is strictly a fantasy story, whatever the genre. There's no way a therapist would get away with pulling those sorts of stunts in most countries. Kurose would be drummed out of the profession, and might eve... I Thot You Was a Toad

    Thank God I am not the only one who sees this manga as a bit (and by bit i mean very) psychologically wrong

    Anonymous March 13, 2016 1:22 am
    Thank God I am not the only one who sees this manga as a bit (and by bit i mean very) psychologically wrong Fre

    I don't think it's meant to be a primer for real life, though, and I don't think readers consider it to be such. I don't think fictional genres have to adhere to realism, especially in the romance genres which are specifically NOT realism.

    I Thot You Was a Toad March 13, 2016 1:23 am
    I don't think it's meant to be a primer for real life, though, and I don't think readers consider it to be such. I don't think fictional genres have to adhere to realism, especially in the romance genres which ... @Anonymous

    That was me. Not sure why I was signed off the site.