I am kinda confused.

the clothes you wear doesnt define who you are. a man can wear a skirt and still be attracted to girls.

I know that's everyone's right to do whatever they want. But I'm just saying usually straight men aren't into these stuffs. But then again considering uke's personality of liking odd stuff it might be possible. It's not a negative point for me rather this story has an interesting start.

(￣∇￣") Yes yes, but truth be told people judge books by their covers. Same goes for humans. If you’re a man and you attended a job interview for an important company in a skirt, and polished nails, you won’t get the job. They will definitely decline you. However, if you’re a woman and you wear a the same thing, the fact that you’re wearing a skirt and have your nails done won’t even cross the interviewer mind as something to decline you for.
You might respond to this comment by sayin that it should be nobody’s business what other people do. “Could should would” we live in a very socially regulated world where people’s collective opinion on something or someone can change everything. I’m not saying that a guy wearing a skirt is bad, cause I don’t care. I’m just trying to drop some knowledge. (=・ω・=)

You're right. Even though everyone says that it's not their business yet they judge you for who you are. No matter what impact it has on others, everyone has their own opinion and some like to voice it our whereas others won't. Well sometimes people won't judge you or rather they're noticing you is something to you might take both in a same way and I believe it's harder to actually differentiate between judging and noticing someone. So yeah I like to say that everyone has their own opinion of how they see this world.

that is why we should normalize guys being feminine and still being straight. idk why you wrote such a long paragraph for a topic we both agree upon.

hah? It has nothing to with how long my explanationis. It’s about me trying to get the point across that the clothes you were do infact define you #－.－)

ok i understand

I agree. Of course he's going to fall the older guy because this is a yaoi, but just bec a guy's fem, doesn't mean he can't be straight (or bi). I think a lot more guys would be open about it if it wasn't such an issue in our society (like I know straight guys who buy women's nikes because they hate how boring men's Nikes are).

Also, it's funny how women say this when before (and still ongoing in some parts of the world), people would ridicule women who wore pants because "that's what a man wears".

the unfortunate reality of gender norms across cultures
oh and btw there is a such a thing as skirts specifically for men (its a whole men's fashion thing in Japan) the guys look pretty cool in them too imo

Oh yeah, kilts for the Scottish, thobes for Arabs etc.

plenty of straight men dye their hair and especially paint their nails. gay is a sexuality, not a look

For a person who reads gay manga you are oddly close minded

Ok the part about men who wear nail polish or act feminine wont be hired for jobs is just not true.

I work in an insurance company (that's about as boring and straight laced as you get) and I've been working there for a few years now, 10 years ago in super catholic Ireland where gay marriage
wasn't even legal sure you might not have been hired there if you were a man who wears makeup or nail polish on but nowadays ya you would I work with several "feminine" men who use nail polish and wear earrings and "masculine" women who wear suits and no makeup with short hair.

I really do believe in certain countries (especially Europe) that times have changed and people aren't as quick to judge and discriminate you based on sexual orientation or the way you look.

I don’t know for fact, but it is widely know that European countries are generally more open and accepting towards change. I don’t know much about the European employment system, so I can’t tell you much about it. I live in America and in I know from experience in my field of work that if a man were to wear a skirt and nails to attend a job interview, they would be deemed “unprofessional”. If you're going on a job interview at a company in a traditional industry such as finance or banking, men and women are “encouraged” to wear formal corporate attire. This means a suit and tie for men and a pantsuit or skirt and blouse for women. Of course men can get jobs either way. It also really depends what specific companies you want to work for. But I was talking about Japan when I said that. From what I know, in Japan, companies hire all at once. In many cases this also mean companies have more specific guidelines and rules for employees to follow when it comes to getting hired. One more common rule includes, for men, wearing a typical dark suit appropriate for a job interview. For women, If it's a skirt, it must not be too short.

Correct me if I’m wrong about the Japanese system because I read about it somewhere online, so I could be spouting nonsense but the source seemed reliable.

Another thing I want to say. I originally made this claim as an example to show that people do in fact define you based off the way you look and the cloths you wear. I could have said anything, that was just an example that came to mind. Because although I do enjoy the quote “cloths don’t define you”, I think they do. That’s what clothes do. I think that’s the beauty of fashion and clothing, because you can really tell a person by just what they are wearing.