Because that is how bdsm works. They take pleasure in getting hits however that depends on how far they can tolerate it and that is why every bdsm couple must have safe words for each other. This is only the tip of iceberg about this whole bdsm relationship, you can read more if you want to know more (=・ω・=)
The BDSM relationship is about trust and safety. Of course it’s about pain and pleasure, but safety and mutual trust comes first. It sounds like you don’t know how BDSM works. Chanwoo apologizes for saying the safe word and that says A LOT. MD’s job as a dom is to make sure Chanwoo feels comfortable with saying the safe word in order to stop, but instead he told Chanwoo that if he backed out of the play, he would stop being his dom. Sexual coercion is not a part of bdsm and it never will be.
tbh you didn’t get the whole idea i suppose, MD is literally forcing him to take care of himself, that was the whole point of last 2-3 chapters. Chanwoo literally doesn’t care about his own needs, he is prone to have physically abusive relationships, MD want to make him aware of this. He wanted him to use the safeword, he tried so damn bad to make him say the safeword because even though he is in intolerable pain Chanwoo tolerates it (which is wrong). This all happened when MD realized he was getting beat up by his bfs, and wanted to show him why he should know his limits and say no. When MD spoke to him and said “are u getting abused” Chanwoo just ignored him so this is the only way MD could made him realize.
Oh MD our savour. Clap clap seriously rolling eyes so hard.
Who the hell MD is to put abuse victim through another traumatic experience to help him. It could have backfired and break him even more. Plus there was also grudge mixed in all of that based on smirks etc. Strangling scene was impacted by the anger after rejection.
No. If you’ve been paying attention to the last few chapters, you can see that MD’s actions were driven by the anger and dissatisfaction of being rejected. He used his previous sub as a method of making Chanwoo realize his feelings/make him feel jealous. What MD is doing is not taking care of Chanwoo, but instead taking his frustrations out on him with initially good intentions that morphed into a desire to make Chanwoo feel jealous. If he really wanted Chanwoo to be aware of his proneness to physical abuse, he wouldn’t coerce Chanwoo to suck a stranger’s dick by saying that if he were to back out of the play, the relationship would be over and he would stop being his dom.
Stop arguing with them they don't see the grey areas in this and are approaching with a naive black and white lens
i see what you mean and they do make sense, let’s see how the creator handles this situation. side ship’s relations looked healthier to me than the main but yea there are things that could be handled well. thank you for your insight!
not arguing at all, listening to other people makes you realize things you don’t see so i would recommend reading everyone’s opinion :’)
Knowing the fine line that separates abuse and bdsm is not naive. The characters are complex and have their reason of doing what they're doing, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t toxic or abusive.
Say it again for the stupid 12 year olds in the back
isn't it clear that he is jealous cause he is in love with MD? ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I thought it was obvious and no it's not MD fault Chan is supper jealous of him kissing someone else, he does not own him anything just like Chan can fuck with other man's. he had his chance to be with him and refuse.
That isn't love he was humliated and was used by that guy and had to do sexual favors to him in order to try and keep his so called " Dom" Md he dosent love Md at all it was just his final breaking point when he saw them kissing and Md was smirking this scean wasn't love it was emotional maniplautuion he told chanwoo he was going to stop being his Dom if he said the safe word and chanwoo said sorry for saying his safeword the safeword is meant to be used the fact he had to say sorry for using shows how Terrbile of a Dom Md is he was not suppose to say sorry at all I wish chanwoo would have left the scean but he has a low self esteem and is clearly mentally unstable and Md is taking advantage of his mental state and the author is trying to disguise this toxicity as Love and "Bdsm" which is clearly not as someone who has been in a lot of emotionally abusive friendships and relationships that isn't love I hope chanwoo can get out this whole d/s relationship quickly before he gets even more hurt from it if you love someone you wouldn't for a fact make them kiss and suck off the person who betrayed your trust so what if he rejected him that was a professional relationship they had not a romantic one Md did all that to chanwoo because his pride was hurt bc chanwoo decided to reject him and find someone who he actually liked but he knew since Md asked him out he wanted it to be co with him so like an adult he texted him and was about to tell him he got a new bf in a respectful way not a rub it in your face way but that asshole betrayed him in front of Md and embarrassed him then Md made it sm worse by taking advantage of this whole situation and maniplautuing chanwoo who was already at a low point into doing this trust me when you are at a low point it's easy to be taken advantage of so chanwoo is the viticm here and the only person I feel sorry right now like this isn't Bdsm and this isn't Love it smells more like gaslighting and emotional maniplautuion please don't confuse this for love ever again bc people like you are most likely to be taken advantage of by a emotional maniplautor if you think this type of toxicty is love somehow
Chanwoo did not like Md in that type of way he has a type he likes younger guys and we'll built ones chanwoo dosent love abusive assholes it's just that how most of his relationships end he thought he found someone nice and respectful and he fit his type as shown that guy was being nice and not abusive to chanwoo in anyway until he decided to betray him and embarass him he was clearly upset if Md was an actual "Dom" he would have gave comfort to chanwoo and made sure he was ok instead he let his emotions take over and did all of that to chanwoo out of pure selfishness and bc his ego was hurt that chanwoo could move on so easily and chanwoo was the only adult in this situation he made sure to contact md and make sure that this was ok for both his new boyfriend and his "Dom" so there wouldn't be an issue like so then Md made him do all of that he knows he then proceeds to slap chanwoo for wanting to not do the play and told him that he was going to stop being his Dom and chanwoo enjoyed the d/s relationship they had and didn't want it to go away bc he had just got his heart broke and probably only had Md there he used that he took advantage of his lowest point instead of trying to help him and make sure he was ok he made him do a Terrbile play he had a mental breakdown bc of that play he was crying over and over he was hell bent it was so sad this all happened bc he rejected Md like why would you do that to someone just bc you were rejected no one is obligated to you're feelings he didn't owe him a relationship a romantic one at all he shouldn't have involved his feelings into the relationship if the author could have wrote this way better but they were just looking for a quick way to get feelings out instead of taking the time to help their relationship mature into love instead they just wanted something quick and easy to get points across instead of doing it in a good way and chanwoo did not deserve anything that happend to him Chanwoo is the viticm of this all rather anyone likes it or not
first of all a safe word meant to stop when he can't handle it, that something he should have use to be safe. but since he wasn't using it like he should, MD had to guess when to stop and no it isn't a good thing! it Chan fault for not using the word when he should have.
and how can you say he didn't jealous? he was totally JEALOUS when he sew the kiss! again if he wasn't in love with MD that kiss should not have bother him at all!!
MD didn't emotional manipulation, again you can't really control Chan getting jealous of you kiss someone else. MD has any RIGHT to kiss someone else if Chan can have sex with other people.
if he didn't love MD he would have never show off to him his new sex partner and won't have come back to him after knowing MD had feelings for him. second proof he was jealous when MD kiss someone else! when more proof do you need he is in love with MD?! and he refuses to let anyone be his sub, despite he is the worse sub ever!
your logic should go both ways, MD don't own him anything and have any right to kiss any other man just like Chan can kiss and fuck other men like he was doing the whole time. but Chan is the one who got jealous to MD!
MD DID emotionally manipulate Chanwoo by making him do a sexual play with his previous sub in order to manipulate Chanwoo to reciprocate his feelings. Do not try to deny this. And if MD realized that Chanwoo is not comfortable with saying the safe word, he should have ended it before it even started to be a responsible dom.
no he didn't, if Chan didn't felt anything for him from the start and wanted to have MD all to himself Chan won't have agree to this play from the start. Chan show he can say no and break up from guys he does not want to stay with. if he really didn't want this he would have just say the safe word and leave the room! like it show he can fucking use the safe word, do not try to deny he can use the safe word cause this is bs!
again MD most of the chance didn't know about his feelings, cause yeas people not mind readers wow how can't they not read minds?! so he can't manipulate feelings he does not know existed, MD most of the chance just wanted Chan to act like a sub should, to use the safe word.
I’m sorry I would reply but I can’t even read what you’re trying to say. I mean this in the most respectful way possible when I say I almost had a seizure reading your paragraph.
People stop talking with Maychan. She is a troll. A lot of people tried to talk some sense into her but she just doesn't care. She dismiss impact of abuse, doesn't get what coercion and emotional manipulation, abuse is. You are wasting time.
Well in Bdsm as A Dom you have to know these things Md knew that chanwoo was In abusive relationships and had a a low self esteem if he was a so called Dom he wouldn't have done the play instead he should have had a light hearted talk with chanwoo on limits not once did he have a talk with chanwoo on boundaries and why he wasn't saying the safe word good doms care about their subs needs and oberserve there behavior during plays he knew chanwoo was having a tough time saying his safe word instead of doing what I just said he choose to create a toxic environment so chanwoo would be froced and mainplauted to say his safe word instead of doing it in a healthier way and manner he choose the most toxic way in hell to do it that was unacceptable and disgusting if you are in a Bdsm relationship with someone you have know these things Bdsm isn't all Cupcakes and Lollipops this is a serouis thing and can get ugly real quick if isn't healthy chanwoo was not jealous he was at a breaking point when he saw his new ex bf kissing his Dom so he said the safe word bc he was humliated and having a mental breakdown now tell me in your own words how was that jealously it wasn't Md is a Terrbile Dom and people should not be supporting this type of relationship if you think this is how Bdsm works irl then you need help bc this isn't Bdsm this is just a romaticed version of it it's completely unrealistic I wish These stupid authors could actually Protray Bdsm in a non toxic way and an actual good represention of it the only person who deserves any type of sympathy is chanwoo and I'm done with this whole arugment because clearly you lack sense in what Bdsm is and how it works
Am I the only one who noticed that Chanwoo, who’s so stubborn to the point of not saying the safe word when MD nearly strangled him to death, said the safe word when he saw MD kissing the dude who betrayed him? Like, he is unbothered by the physical abuse but he was so emotionally shaken up by MD kissing the dude that he finally reached the limit and started to break down and cry. Chanwoo’s exes helped Chanwoo get used to physical abuse and now MD is helping Chanwoo get used to emotional abuse. Fun.