this is why in BDSM culture you use safewords since you cannot know or feel what the other...

pikku.katsu June 1, 2020 10:21 pm

this is why in BDSM culture you use safewords since you cannot know or feel what the other feels! I think unlike most this pairing is lovely. Besides I think MD saw this as a little sexual game with two slaves, he wanted to see how far Chanwoo would go.... and well apparently his buffer is at seeing MD being kissed by another.

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    maychan June 1, 2020 10:47 pm

    yeas, this is why Chan was a very difficult sub for MD, I'm sure ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    pikku.katsu June 2, 2020 12:02 pm
    yeas, this is why Chan was a very difficult sub for MD, I'm sure ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ maychan

    yes, Chan is, which makes the play harder than it should be for both! As a dom myself I am happy my sub is really open in their comfort zones, since without honesty you end up hurting the other for real. I really hope that Chan after this tries to be more open ;v;

    Biss June 2, 2020 12:50 pm

    I can't. Omg MD knows that Chanwoo has problems with safe words etc. Then he can either deal with it and be observant or rejected their play. Not exploit his sub's fragile state of mind and weakness.

    rico.tomate June 2, 2020 1:18 pm
    I can't. Omg MD knows that Chanwoo has problems with safe words etc. Then he can either deal with it and be observant or rejected their play. Not exploit his sub's fragile state of mind and weakness. Biss

    I am sorry but no. With BDSM it has to come from both sides, Chanwoo actually got on two occasions to even stop the whole play but instead, he went along with it. BDSM is show & tell not guess and wing it. He didn't exploit his sub, instead he thought both were in the idea of having a threesome. MD tried to stop it by saying "is there something you wanna say or want me to do" Also; it is up to the sub to show and tell when it goes too far. Since BDSM is really not black & white. I am sorry but no.

    maychan June 2, 2020 4:32 pm
    I am sorry but no. With BDSM it has to come from both sides, Chanwoo actually got on two occasions to even stop the whole play but instead, he went along with it. BDSM is show & tell not guess and wing it. ... rico.tomate

    finally, someone that knows what they talking about! good job explaining this (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    peacelovinjonesxyz June 2, 2020 5:05 pm
    I can't. Omg MD knows that Chanwoo has problems with safe words etc. Then he can either deal with it and be observant or rejected their play. Not exploit his sub's fragile state of mind and weakness. Biss

    I agree

    Biss June 2, 2020 10:06 pm
    I am sorry but no. With BDSM it has to come from both sides, Chanwoo actually got on two occasions to even stop the whole play but instead, he went along with it. BDSM is show & tell not guess and wing it. ... rico.tomate

    Are you for real? Did we read the same chapter? Chanwoo asked few times if he HAD TO do that. He was trembling and disgusted. He was pressured to make up with guy who just used him and rejected him and MD relieved he is really into threesome. I'm screaming.

    Biss June 2, 2020 10:09 pm
    I am sorry but no. With BDSM it has to come from both sides, Chanwoo actually got on two occasions to even stop the whole play but instead, he went along with it. BDSM is show & tell not guess and wing it. ... rico.tomate

    Do you understand what coercion is? Did you miss completely MD's smirks? Did you miss the moment when Chanwoo was choked to death and didn't say no and the fact he is a victim of abuse?
    MD was manipulative asshole. He put ultimatum on the guy who was just rejected and used. He was just betrayed and he is saying oooh if you won't participate in any I will abandon you too. Jesus people let's not play dumb.
    MD tried to stop that? Yup definitely with the whole reminding... You can design any time you want... But it's the end of our relationship.

    Biss June 2, 2020 10:19 pm
    Do you understand what coercion is? Did you miss completely MD's smirks? Did you miss the moment when Chanwoo was choked to death and didn't say no and the fact he is a victim of abuse?MD was manipulative assho... Biss

    Resign*

    Biss June 2, 2020 10:19 pm
    Are you for real? Did we read the same chapter? Chanwoo asked few times if he HAD TO do that. He was trembling and disgusted. He was pressured to make up with guy who just used him and rejected him and MD relie... Biss

    Believed*

    looololol June 3, 2020 5:12 am
    yes, Chan is, which makes the play harder than it should be for both! As a dom myself I am happy my sub is really open in their comfort zones, since without honesty you end up hurting the other for real. I real... pikku.katsu

    jesus mother fucking christ i feel
    bad for your subs

    rico.tomate June 5, 2020 7:34 pm
    Are you for real? Did we read the same chapter? Chanwoo asked few times if he HAD TO do that. He was trembling and disgusted. He was pressured to make up with guy who just used him and rejected him and MD relie... Biss

    Before I start; sorry I should have made clear in my reaction that I do not agree with the ultimatum given by MD. it was putting Chan into this awful situation that shouldn't even happen in the first place. About the choking; I am more annoyed and hate to even say this but once you choke someone you need to have 100% their trust and seeing it displayed in such a way... is not oke....

    That being said the thing with BDSM is, a question like; "should I do this" or even a simple "stop" is not your way out of the play, since with BDSM you use other words to indicate STOP etc. The stopwords depend on the agreement, but let's assume for now it isn't stop or a simple question. This is the MAIN reason you create PRIOR BDSM safety words/comfort zones (their safety word is vanilla, not sure if they have tapping as stop indicator once Chan is tied up). Oh well in the end, this play turned into a big mess & miscommunication on both ends but to put the blame only on MD (once again not talking his manipulation/choking good) that is not oke. Chan should have used the stop word. But MD is the bigger ass here for putting Chan in such a position, plus thinking he would be oke with that.

    rico.tomate June 5, 2020 8:01 pm
    Do you understand what coercion is? Did you miss completely MD's smirks? Did you miss the moment when Chanwoo was choked to death and didn't say no and the fact he is a victim of abuse?MD was manipulative assho... Biss

    just as my other comment, sorry for not making it clear enough that I am not agreeing nor oke with MD his behavior on those moments, especially the ultimatum. That just made me flat out uneasy and sorry for Chanwoo....
    .