MD agreed to it tho and when he confessed to Chanwoo he should of clarified that he didnt want Chanwoo to date others. Chanwoo only did it because he thought that MD was fine with it
MD agreed to it because he can clearly see Chanwoo has issues. This was further emphasized during their play after that and the fact that Chanwoo was ok dating another asshole. It's like Chanwoo punishing himself for being himself? Like idk how to explain it. But MD clearly understand Chanwoo and that's why he played along with Chanwoo's whim. He said sorry after all that meaning he knows that what he's doing will hurt Chanwoo emotionally and not so much on the play.
I think the reason he doesn't want to date MD is because he thinks MD is perfect. Given his past, his bf is always problematic. So he couldn't accept it if MD comes to be like one of them too. If MD is problematic during their play, then it's easy for him to accept it and drop the whole play because fuck budddies are just fuck buddies after all. You don't know them beyond that.
Your whole analysis crumbles the moment you remember that he picked the one who just tricked him on the same exact criteria as his boyfriend.
That's the problem with Chanwoo, he ALWAYS goes for the same good-looking, nice-at-first, young assholes and then gets played or beaten. MD wanted to give him better and he refused.
Not because of his past BF, he's literally just acting like girls who reject the good guy and go for the potential/complete asshole. He needed his bell rung, he got it rung.
That's it
I absolutely do think there were deeper reasons for each if their actions. My point is that Chanwoo cannot be criticised for seeking a boyfriend whilst with MD because as far as he is aware MD is fine with it. OP stated that MD toying with Chanwoos feelings (despite seeing his visible unwillingless) is the same as Chanwoo finding another partner. MD is an adult if he were truly upset with even the though of Chanwoo having another partner he should have said so. He also should have stopped the play as soon as he saw that Chanwoo was uncomfortable especially as he is aware Chanwoo struggles with his safe word.
That was his past bf criteria?? He has a fixed ideals that he failed to see beyond that which what made a lot of his bf problematic?? He didn't reject MD because he's the good guy. Why would he need permission from MD for a new bf and he is remembering MD when bf subject comes up. He already have feelings for MD.
No one is criticizing Chanwoo for seeking a boyfriend. However it's beyond fucked up that he wanted go actually introduce the guy to MD knowing his feelings. And his age is NOT an excuse, anyone above 15 has enough brain to see the problem.
If he had stopped when Chanwoo was only uncomfortable then Chanwoo would have NEVER seen the other sub kissing MD, he'd have never realized his mistake and would've never changed his ways and probably would just go and date another dangerous guy.
Chanwoo wasn't forced in it. He had the choice to leave ANYTIME, in fact, MD made it very clear from the start. Again, a distressed 14 year old would have simply ran away. Yes he was uncomfortable, but he brought it upon himself, went along himself and learned the hard way.
You want to bring up MD's age, but Chanwoo is not 5. It's about time someone shook his frozen braincells a little.
SPILL THE TEAAAAA
MD said they could still be fuck buddies for their camming gig
But MD is in no position to manipulate Chan like that. It doesn’t matter that Chan has a past of abusive assholes or that he rejected MD. He’s allowed to reject him and “ringing” his bell by emotionally abusing him and breaking his trust is not okay. MD knew exactly what he was doing and only stopped when Chan broke down and said the safe word for the first time. If he didn’t say the safe word, MD would’ve continued what he was doing. Using abuse to “help” someone overcome other abuse and trauma is not okay or healthy, it just shows that MD is no better than Chan’s exes. Abuse and being emotionally manipulated shouldn’t be a reality check, that whole post screams r/niceguys
I get that MD is emotionally hurt, but that is no excuse for being so manipulative and toxic, Chanwoo doesn't owe him anything, and MD using his power as a Dom in their BDSM relationship over Chanwoo his soooo toxic.Yes, Chanwoo hasn't been a Saint, but MD is far worse.
I’m pretty sure seung encouraged chan to keep him relationship with MD and was the one who wanted to get permission.
And to say that chan can leave at any time, that’s the thing with manipulation. People who are being manipulated feel as if they can’t or shouldn’t leave. It’s so easy to say “he’s an adult he can leave any time” but as we already know, chan doesn’t respect himself and blames himself for so much. he literally can’t say the safe word even when he’s pushed beyond his limits and MD well knew that. Don’t victim blame chan when MD is being so toxic and abusive because he was rejected. chan isn’t perfect either, but he shouldn’t be treated with more abuse in order to “learn.”
IDK what some of you are reading but umm thinking that Chanwoo might be that 'deep', he says clearly he prefers them younger and handsome, he's VERY SHALLOW! And have you all forgotten how he was brushing MD aside when their play wasn't intense enough for him, still running to others? Was Chanwoo also the one that sad he'd only play/sleep with/'date?' MD? The first time MD went ham on him and the bathroom scene in the park! I appreciate everyone's opinion. MD is a sadist by profession, and he has tried to be nice and 'non toxic to Chanwoo (who refused it NOT because he thought MD was perfect! He refused because MD WAS NOT HIS "TYPE"). Chanwoo can refuse at ANYTIME! You cant have your cake and eat it too! Chanwoo is just selfish! He feeling emotional because seung used him to get to MD (suddenly MD is hot commodity) which pisses him off, then his pride is battered because MD seems interested in seung and HE might lose MD! i sincerly doubt Chanwoo would have had any problems if it was some other random person!Yes, MD did manipulate the situation to get Chanwoo to understand (and i feel like MD was being a little spitful and petty). But! My apologies to who ever feel like i'm offending them, but YOU REAP WHAT THE HELL YOU SOW! Justifying chanwoo being a selfish self centered idiotic brat because MD decide to use a situation that He DID NOT create to get Chanwoo to understand his own boundaries, worth and feelings is unfair! It wasn't the best idea but he's using what chanwoo's like's to show him his nonsense! TOUGH LOVE! Chanwoo was not abused by MD, his pride was hurt but that's all!
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i still think Chanwoo is a idiot and a brat and selfish and superficial and selfish...wait i said that already! But he's cute soo!!! ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yes he did! I did! HE asked! Want me to send you the link to the chapter? Chanwoo refused! Because MD is OLD! smh!
T H A N K Y O U!
I'm annoyed at how people like to play the 'oh no i'm a victim unwillingly'
Chanwoo is an A$$! Plain and simple, and until he decides to stop being an A$$ nothing's gonna change! I bet if it was reversed and MD was acting like Chanwoo, (not role reversal just attitude), Everyone would be calling MD philanderer and an A$$ and Trash, and all the other name they can up up with! You can't have your cake and eat it! We must be fair! If MD decided to drop Chanwoo for someone else altogether and chanwoo still decided to choose abusive a$$holes, IS THAT MD'S FAULT ALSO? When is Chanwoo responsible for HIS OWN ACTIONS??? ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
Questions, When did MD become responsible for Chanwoo's choices?
Have you read the plethora of time MD told Chanwoo to use his safe word if he wasn't ok?
Is Chanwoo a child? Since when?
Was Chanwoo forced? How? What leverage?
Reread because MD wanted exclusivity but Chanwoo refused
EXACTLY
Thank you! Thank you
╥﹏╥ mhmm (tears of agreement)
And MD owes Chanwoo what exactly?
Y'all giving chanwoo too much credit! YOU GUYS STILL DON'T GET THAT CHANWOO IS ONLY FEELING LIKE THAT BECAUSE HIS PRIDE WAS HURT! LIKE would it be the same if it MD had someone else come and do it? You forgot Chanwoo was all set to go sleep with seung minutes before...did you forget? Yes MD manipulated the situation presented to him, not ideal, but that just how it written, that doesn't make him abusive!
Exactly I dont think they realise how dangerous MD was by continuing to play with Chan whilst knowing he doesnt use his safe word. He should have known better especially when it's such visible discomfort. It's about basic decency. If you can tell your partner isnt happy with your sexual act and you know they have a history about lying about their consent. You dont carry on and ignore the signs.
For all the people trashing MD, you don't think he has feelings too? Like Chanwoo is/was selfish and a idiot. So like...Chanwoo only uses the safe word when MD seems interested in someone else? But he can go around a do whatever he wants? Sounds like the 'i don't have interest or wanna play with my toy much until someone wants it or have it!!!