They’re literally defining coercion and they still can’t fucking see it lmao
Yep, they do. There is a whole sub culture about it. You aren't in a bdsm relationship and it's completely different from a boyfriend beating chanwoo up.
You can’t really be judging SADIST and MASOCHIST under “mentally stable”. No sane person would enjoy pain or enjoy inflicting one. Fix “abnormal” shit the “abonormal” way. U can’t try to start a bicycle with a key cuz it has wheels like a car. U have to do it the bicycle way which is to move the pedals.
Now to anyone into bdsm am not trying to insult u but judging by people’s and general standards of “normal” bdsm is not one of them. But hey it doesn’t mean u are the scum of the earth just cuz u are not classified as “normal”
No, you still not getting the point, that just cause it doesn't float your boat, doesn't make it abusive.
Exactly!!
And CHanwoo didn't know MD feelings and still paraded men around him while still wanting a bdsm only play? That is also coercion and manipulation. Like I said, they both did it to each other.
They didn't agree about going further after recording. The fact that Chanwoo in the end enjoyed that doesn't change the fact that MD overstepped and crossed the rules. And because of personal feelings.
But he nearly hurt him by strangling. It could have serious medical consequences.
Coercing is normal. Clap clap. I have no more questions for you.
Omg he had all the right to reject MD. MD was the one who overstepped by proposing dating when their relationship was purely professional. And Chanwoo even asked if he is ok after rejection and MD said yes. Then Chanwoo was a little bit insensitive -> bringing bf but MD agreed to see him. He wasn't coerced or forced. They didn't charge into his apartment. Chanwoo wanted the clear situation. He wanted to open about his relationship with his dom. Should he hide his relationship and lie?
What MD did is so much worse. Coercion, making Chanwoo do things he didn't want with the guy who just used him (and he fully took advantage of that by threating him that he will abandon him too if he won't participate so he would lose two relationship the same day), humiliating him, abusing both mentally and physically. What are we even comparing. For real.
Ah yes trying to end an argument by infantilizing the other person. Whatever relationship you've been in, no coercion normal and it's even worse if it's sexual. I do not understand how you refuse to see that when you consent (or being coerced) to being strangled, slapped, degraded, this absolutely cannot be compared to going to a park you didn't really want to. If anything, lemme throw your words back at : not everything is black or white, and these situations or not comparable.
O.o what
The scariest thing is that your grammar tells me that you are an adult. Just an incredibly inexperienced and immature one lol while you’re searching the definition of “coercion” and “consent”, you should also look up “Karen” since you seem to not know how to use that word either lmaooo
And I also don't see how you are using your "normal" standards for an "Abnormal" relationship and how it doesn't work. Yes they aren't comparable, cause the type of relationships are completely different. You using vanilla standards to judge a non vanilla relationship is ridiculous.
*insults the bdsm community by calling us mentally unstable* “btw guyz no offense!,!!,”
If a “non vanilla” relationship is as abusive as this one, then hell fuckin yeah I’m vanilla
Like I said before u can’t classify sadist and masochist as mentally stable people to begin with so idk what y’all keep talking about coercion and manipulation of a “mentally unstable” person.
A Karen = A common stereotype is that of a white American middle-aged woman who displays aggressive behavior when prevented from getting her way. Sounds like you. SO I used it. I know what coercion and consent is, I also don't agree with your meaning of it.
Alright my bad for using the word normal (which you used first must I remind you), let me put it into other words ; coercion is abuse. This has absolutely nothing to with vanilla or non vanilla relationships, this is the stupidest (pardon my vocabulary) thingy I've ever read. Bdsm doesn't mean coercion, abuse and even worst stuff are ok, just because it's not vanilla. Again, one more time, coercion, and dubious consent is bad and abusive, in vanilla and non vanilla dynamics.
Oh please shut it. Don’t even try that move with me. Cuz are u really trying to tell me that just anyone would enjoy loving or inflicting pain and shit? I said it’s not normal and I’d say it again it’s not normal. Then I’d say it again no one is scum of the earth cuz they are not normal. Why I said “no offense” is cuz I knew someone would pull that bitch move and here u are. When u don’t have a point to prove u don’t even have to agree that a person is right just shut it and move on
Literally what about what I’ve said even comes close to that like I can’t lmao y’all are so incredibly ignorant and toxic that it’s draining me. Please do the world a favor and do some research before spouting shit like this. People like you are the reason everyone is so terrified/disgusted with the bdsm community
No am pretty sure they are terrified cuz 90% of the population don’t like pain so please do UR OWN research and try again
"You do not agree with me and continue to argue to defend your point..... Must be a Karen "
For me it's a case by case basis. I don't find MD and daddy. So I can confidently say, his looks have nothing to do with how I feel about this particular situation. I dislike it when people judge situation by their own standards. Your own standards means nothing in this relationship. And in all honestly, the way they are handling this, suits them. The slap was a bit much for, but this is a bsdm relationship and all of those relationships are personal and different. And I don't really feel like MD went to far. He treated his sub like he treated all his other subs he didn't care about so he can know the difference. Ya'll are all trippin. This isn't a cup a tea relationship for me but that's why I am not in it. Just saying