Ya'll are Trippin and need look outside yourselves.

The problem is... This play didn't have much to do with BDSM. It was abuse disguised as BDSM play.

I really disagree. Where was the abuse? Except maybe the slap. He literally treats all his subs like that except our main dude. Ya'll just got used to a nicer MD. And mad that he made main boy cry. And I don't find his disregard for Chanwoo's feelings any worse than the disregard Chanwoo had for his feelings.

No consent = abuse/rape

You don't coerce someone to do something they don't want to by threatening them.
He crossed the boundaries at least three times. Once he continued the play after recording. Although they agreed only to recording.
Strangling someone nearly to death because you were upset after rejection isn't really ok either.
Coercing someone into the play, threatening them that you will abandoned them just after someone was used and rejected...and taking full advantage of that. Is also manipulatative and abusive.
They never agreed to threesome before, they didn't discuss elements of the play. It was clear Chanwoo doesn't want to do that and was uncomfortable AF but only endured that because of MD's conditions.
He was abused both mentally and physically. And it's even sadder when you think about his abusive ex bfs.

He did consent. Just cause he didn't really want to, he still consented. He could have left anytime. So nope, not abuse or rape. And when he said vanilla, MD stopped immediately. Just cause his anger and pride made him do it, doesn't me MD did.

Nope. Mentally unstable people and coerced people cannot consent. Any sexual acts with one (or in this case both) of these people is rape/abuse.

I agree with you. They really are judging someone else’s relationship with their own standards relationship outlook. People need to look past what they see and what is being shown for once. I really don’t think this is MD having a revenge on chanwoo. Besides BDSM is already messed up so why is one slap causing an uproar. If you call ONE slap abuse.......then idk bruh

Do you understand coercion...

Idk man but you didn't understand one thing people are saying. It will help you: it's not (only) about the slap.

“He really didn’t want to, but he still consented” like I can’t w these people lmfaoooooo

It wasn't a threat. After the recording, I recall Chanwoo wanting that, cause he didn't like the Vanilla play during the recording. And he never said vanilla. Strangling? I admit he let his emotions get the better of him, but he himself said Vanilla cause it was to far. Coercing people to do something is freakin normal in any relationship. Just this is a sexual relationship so ya'll feel it's wrong. Same thing. IT was clear that MD was uncomfortable with their status quo relationship but Chanwoo didn't care, even had the nerve to bring his new beau in front of him. I really don't find what MD did much worse than what Chanwoo did. In fact, Chanwoo was "abusing" MD longer. ANd MD did not abuse Chanwo physically. Mentally I'll agree with, but like I said they did that to each other. Cause when Chanwoo got over his pride he said Vanilla and MD stopped.

Same can be said to you. The slap and manipulation you only saw with MD, but didn't pay one lick of attention to how Chanwoo was doing the same thing to him. Without remorse I might add.

If you think coercion is normal in a relationship, please never attempt to be in one.

But even if you do, it won’t last long, unless you get w someone like chanwoo. Huh, seems like md DOES know what’s he’s doing...

How do you know he is mentally unstable. All I see is someone who doesn't like to lose, so he force himself to do something he didn't really want to do. He could say vanilla when he had enough which he did. Abuse would have been MD continuing anyway. People forcing themselves to do what they don't like doesn't always = abuse. Things aren't that black and white.

I also can't with you. changing the order of my words gives what I said different meaning and highlighting it out of context does that as well. He consented himself cause he is stubborn and doesn't like to lose. SO yeah. He consented even though he didn't really want to.

Ahem let’s not all forget that the person chanwoo was calling gross what literally the same person he jumped to have sex with only a few days before this thing with MD. They didn’t agree to threesome true but they did discuss having a “BDSM PLAY ALL THREE OF THEM” to see who can be “the better sub” surely he expected as much seeing as he is experienced. And if a person rejected u I don’t see why they should be afraid of u leaving them. I mean what do u expect? String MD along while going around sexing other people knowing full well of MD’s feelings. Now am not saying chanwoo is obligated to MD’s feelings but it’s also tasking on MD’s mind and so if he chooses to choose another sub I don’t see what the problem is. But chanwoo wanted to hold on to MD regardless and he stayed to fight for MD in their own little world way. However if chanwoo has voiced out his feelings and all and also learn how to use safe words all this mess wouldn’t have happened and that is what I think MD was going for. This is not all about revenge

Yikes... MD knew he didn't really consent but decided to take advantage of it, that's literally it. It's coercion. And it's very bad and abusive, no matter how they try, and how you try to disguise it

Ok, didn’t like how I corrected your grammar? How about this, “he consented even though he didn’t really want to.” You’re still not getting the point and dancing around the fact that that is the definition of coercion lmaoooo

Ah, yes. Mentally stable people just love be strangled to death <3 and zomg how could I even live without be beaten by my boyfriend daily??? Omfg ur making sooo much sense!,!!!!,!!

So when you are in a relationship, you've never been coerce in to going somewhere you don't want, watching something you don't want, eating something you don't want? etc etc. Yes that's normal. BDSM is just more sexual in nature, but yes it's normal. As long as you don't pass your own personal boundaries. Which MD did when Chanwoo said VANILLA, than STOPPED. I personally won't be in a bdsm relationship, cause that life isn't for me, but unlike YOU, I won't judge other relationships by my standards unless someone gets hurt. If MD continued afterwards I would be more on ya'll side. He didn't. He even said sorry cause he went to far and made him save Vanilla. In a Vanilla relationship, yeah we all done something that went to far by our standards and regretted it. As long as we don't do it again, it's forgiven. I am an adult. I get that it isn't black and white. You must be 12 or a Karen.