Regardless, claiming that Chanwoo was "not in the right place of mind" is not factual. Yes, he maybe have been an emotional wreck, still doesn't mean he can't differentiate right from wrong. It's like saying if you're an emotional wreck and you hurt someone, then it's not you're fault because "you were not in the right place of mind". Anyone with a psychology degree would argue how ridiculous that sounds. No matter what emotional state someone is in, your subconscious will always help you differentiate right from wrong. Ignoring it, is another issue. But, claiming that someone whom was cleary told he can leave if he can't handle a certain level of act during a BDSM play, that he had no control over the situation is basically very irresponsible thing to do. How many of us could get away with crimes, abuse, rape and false claims based on the statement "I'm/you're/he's/she's" an emotional wreck? That's just a bad excuse for bad behaviors. Moreover, lack of responsibility and self awareness.
Second, we have NO proof that Chanwoo's experience of "lack of emotional stability" is the result of him being stuck in this situation. Anyone with common sense, if put in this situation would be turned off, cursed out MD or other dude aka piece of trash.
Third, yes Chanwoo was shocked because got played one over. But, is it really fair/logical to claim that because of that he was an emotional wreck? He's just met the guy! Yes, he was a bit infatuated by him because he seemed so perfect. But, it's not like he was heartbroken by the love of his life. So, I'm really trying to understand how such a short encounter resulted in such a big emotional impact on him. And if it did, doesn't it make him too naive? Not to mention some part of your argument makes him sound like a 5 years old who can't control his emotions or is incapable to process his emotion because a fucker got one over him.
Ur dp is literally seungho who’s a rapist
Ofc you would defend MD
You literally dismiss the impact of abuse and taking advantage of someone in fragile state of mind. He was once again used. He was abused for a long time.
And once again you can't fly consent when your consent is impacted by threats or conditions...
Sweetheart, I'm going to stop this "argument". Your "argument" has way too many factless claims. Even your own interpretation of "consent" in this specific situation is laughable. All Inhave to say, if that you have the rights to your opinion. But still, you lack substantial facts, just plain old "I can read" drawn characters' mind and will advocate for said character" ieven if there's no actual abuse, rape, coersion and such. Again: De.lu.sio.nal.
You.
Still.
Make.
No.
Sense.
*peace sign*
You make no sense, you don't understand BDSM rules, you don't understand consent and coercion. You don't understand clear manipulation. What can we do that you are ignorant.
Exactly, I feel like everyone wants to act like so kind of psychologist and or just spout whatever comes to mind just to start a trend. It's quite easy to project ourselves in characters because we feel sorry for them, but that makes us bias. When you're bias, you refuse to acknowledge facts.
Thank you(▰˘◡˘▰)
Hahaha one less backlash! Thank you! The less the better, lmao!
Hahaha! Yes, it's neceraasy in this site because otherwise people will just at your throat if you have a different opinion than the majority ╥﹏╥
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5931412/
One of the topic about the matter.
Seriously it's so cute when ignorant is calling others ignorant :3
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How anyone don't see that the consent impacted by conditions and threats is no consent.
Chanwoo is capable of rejecting that, the guy clearly showed his stalker attitude openly. Especially with a situation when they have to touch each others, He should have already known what crazy shit he’s getting into and that he will be uncomfortable with it and left when MD literally gave him a choice.
No One said he should hide his relationship from MD (no one was literally talking about it) BUT He should have already known that MD would break their contract because MD confessed before and he rejected him. He should be prepared that he will be cutting with MD in that moment even given the chance, but he didn’t.
But it was CLEAR that he didn't want to participate in the play. Only because of conditions and BDSM play shouldn't look like that. He asked many times if he really had to and was reminded that he didn't have to BUT if he wants to stay in their relationship they he has to endure that.
Consent and play should never be put under any conditions so the sub should feel obligated to do things he doesn't want to. Even a blind could see that Chanwoo didn't want to do that and touch the guy who just betrayed him but experienced Dom didn't see that? BDSM is about consent, safety and pleasure, satisfaction of bort parts...
Yeah and MD as mature man should say that inteast of creating the play... like a normal, mature men they should have discussion and look at their options.
Even better MD wasn't interested in the other sub in the slightest. Mostly grudge and wanting to teach Chanwoo the lesson. Once again he mixed his own personal feelings,ulterior motives with the play which is unacceptable.
Your welcome
Its fiction dont bring reality into fictional world. It is written this way by the artist. Can we just enjoy the side stories and see how it ends without on the "fictional" characters.
I'm gonna rant for a minute, I'll most likely get a backlash for this. But, I have to get some stuff off my chest...
So y'all wanna give MD shit for turning this situation to what it's come to, but how was Chanwoo's actions were okay? You can't have your cake and eat it too. The double standards in the yaoi fandom is just so incredulous...mind-fucking-blowing! It's delusional to say the least.
Chanwoo was wrong and so was MD! But, neither is worst than the other. And stop saying, "they could've just talked it out"...
Well this is my reaction: "bitch please~" *rolls my eyes, flips my non-existent long hair, and sway my ass out the room like a diva*
Didn't MD TRY talking to Chanwoo about "this"? Whatever "this" was? He confessed his feelings and asked that they took their relationships to a more serious level. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bj_alex/uu/ibx_chapter-86/pg-8/ He rejected MD, not only THAT but went back to his fishing pool for more douchebags - WHICH he had no trouble finding http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bj_alex/uu/ibx_chapter-89/pg-37/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bj_alex/uu/ibx_chapter-89/pg-38/
Personally, I don't think there was anything ELSE MD could've have done. Was he supposed to keep begging Chanwoo to return his feelings with no dignity? Let the man have his pride.
Also, Chanwoo HAD a CHOICE. No one forced him to stay there and continued on with this circus. He could've walked out, and leave this whole thing behind. But he stayed, because he was jealous and deep down he wanted to prove that he was better than what's-his-name-new-douchebag. He's an adult, he made his choice. It was a BDSM play. The only difference this time is that he had to compete against the same shit who played him. His feelings got hurt and this situation (regardless how bad it was) forced him to realize that he might care for MD more than he thought.
MD went too far? Maybe. But the method was effective. Chanwoo needed to learn a lesson. He takes good man for granted and always runs towards shitty dudes who treated him like shit. Seeing MD kiss another man, really pushed him over the edge to face his feelings which made him use the safe word which we've NEVER seen him use.
Oof I'm done lol!