Are you not able to take criticism about a webtoon that glorified rape or are u normal :/
it matters .....he isnt a monster,how can you hate a character like that without giving him a chance or at least without even reading the webtoon ? the fact that he regrets and is trying to consider Nakyum’s feeling its not romanticised rape who came with that term its so weird its called character improvement its not hard to understand.....he is a complex character and has some issues which dont justify but also explain a little why he is the way he is but its ok if you dont agree its your right. (￣∇￣")
If you look through my comments in this post, I clearly just stated that this webtoon romanticises rape, which is TRUE - giving rapists the ability to 'character develop' in the notion of them being a misunderstood and troubled is an extremely toxic narrative. But anyways, I never even mention seungho's character - ur literally just projecting. I said what i said
what do you even know lmao you only read five chapters and some screenshots on twitter and came here to comment because without you noone would know there is rape and abuse .......im not projecting i actually read the manhwa its the basic before pretending you know everything and i tried to understand since a character isnt only black or white as you say .....you are just judging and generalising ......it must be hard to read mangas with such a mindest to not even try to understand the character ....you may have said what you said but all in all empty words since you havent read it
Do i sound mad hoe? Don’t try to be a smartass w me. Get your over sensitive ass out of this website if you’re gonna bitch about a fictional book.
i dont need to read the whole webtoon to know rape and sexual abuse is never excusable
yes Stockholm syndrome coming through! I don’t judge anyone for reading but I sure as hell do if they romanticize and ship this couple and the obvious messed up rape and mental and physical torture
but you havent even read the chapters where rape happens (づ￣ ³￣)づcan you just tell me why did Nakyum agree to stay with Seungho? and not leave? im not excusing anything i just want to know why.... afterall in this manhwa Seungho is a lord who can kill someone and get away with it,it is how he was raised to have control over people life.. is it ok ?no its isnt but thats the only way he know with people, force .....i would really like you gave the manhwa a chance :) anyway cheers
Idk who said it but BJ ALEX IS NOT THE SAME AS POTN. Anyone who believes that has some serious checking to do. BDSM is NOT THE SYNONYM FOR RAPE. If you want to compare painters of the Night then compare it with : killing stalking or stories by harada. You can’t compare pears with apples so don’t compare a normal manga with a twisted messed up story.
Wait that’s what you’re complaining about when someone says bj alex is the same as potn?
BjAlex is totally normal yeah lmao i dont know how in any way killing stalking is similar to potn most semes are jerks but Sangwoo was batshit crazy you should take that advice of not comparing yourself ......plus i thought you couldnt take these kind of stories you even deleted the replies but you read killing stalking and harada lol
Wait what, did I delete anything? Hä? I didn’t delete anything? I have seen enough of killing stalking on Social Media and read a few chapters. I have read a few harada one shots and yes I was deeply disturbed. And no I did not say that you have to compare any story. But if you really want to compare stories as in literally and deeply analyze them then you should compare same kinds of stories. Shouldn’t you? Doesn’t make sense to compare different themes or genres to rightfully analyze them.
I agree there are definite differences between sangwoo and seungho bc they obviously aren’t the complete same, however they are both monsters in their way. So if i would really want to analyze the two semes, I would read the whole story and then take their characters apart and compare everything. But to compare something you have to have a common point and this point is the fact that both stories are messed up and both seme‘s are rapist, psychos, that at least killed one person. But apart from that I’m not able to make any comparison since I just know the story of killing stalking because of some chapters that I’ve read and the whole plot summaries that I’ve read and seen.
But yeah you’re right I maybe will give it a shot when it’s finished and then I’ll see the full story. It will most likely not change my view about seungho but at least then I can see why he became like that and I’m able to fully compare him with sangwoo.
you deleted it lmao anyway i find it really funny how you people havent even read either and have only seen posts on twitter and say they are similar or come up with conclusions ........really i dont know why i bother (〜￣△￣)〜 there is nothing to compare trust me you dont have to put yourself through that if you dont like this genre ╮(￣▽￣)╭
What did I delete though I still don’t understand
in the previous post you did about the tag but maybe there is glitch so it might be a misunderstanding sorry
Totally agree with u. I've read the whole thing and I can't ship them. It's a toxic relationship... But I'll continue second season just bcuz I'm curious hahah
I'm not saying it's a bad manhwa and I know how effort the author put into this, even if it's kinda creepy for me (just like killing stalking, that I finished I think it's amaaazing, even tho I don't ship the caracters)
Ps: Bj Alex is waay more diferent from that. Alex never raped anyone and the bdsm stuff NEEDS to be consensual between two people.
Sorry it's kinda late but I had to give my opinion.
You also have to take the time period and culture at that time in consideration. Yes it is not consensual the second time around. The first time around it was dubious.
Most people that are reading it hate Seungho as well. Who in their right mind think it is romantic. They just admire the beautiful art that captures a story of two people stuck in a very twisted situation due to the time period they are in. NK is a lowborn who can not resist if he wants to live and Seungho is a Noble who tasted NK 'consensually(in that time period...you are also blamed for getting drunk and initiating in the first place)' and probably want to own him completely since he has that right as a noble to exercise power. Then as it continued on it kind of normalized as NK accepts his fate. Till the point he viewed Seungho as a sexual partner where he can ask Seungho to have sex with him, initiating it to
jus forget about that inhun. We will not forget that this relationship started in the first place because of rape. Most people find that unsettling and sympathize NK.
I am so upset that one comment is buried somewhere with the other comments. Because someone was so bored they made an analysis of the characters. Of Seungho and Nk. And that was not to excuse the rape but just explain how they ended up they way they are. Like how NK is so innocence despite growing up in a Gisaeng house and how Seungo could have been forced into being a Sodomite to prove a point to his father who humiliated him.
Remember when Seungho threatened to kill inhun because he believed he didnt deserve to be hated by NK. He wanted to be hated properly.
So yeah. Not trying to force you into reading. But I do enjoy this art. It is put of this world. I havent been able to see any art as good as this once I had read it. The character dynamics is interesting. I know the rape sucks but at that time it is quite normal for a low born to be coerced and forced which was unfortunate. NK does hate Seungho but he gradually 'accepts' him because the man became sort of a comfort to Nk.
I get your point. The art is beautifull and it's probably gonna be an amazing story as well.
I also think we have to considerate the period of time and what was accepted in that culture.
BUT I think it's really concerning if people romantisize this kind of relationship just bcuz they think the caracters are atractive or anything like that. Both of them have problems and its not healthy to think this is normal.
I still don't think I'm gonna forgive Seungho for what he did, but I hope he gets the development he deserves and I can't wait to see.
Ps: Thank u for sharing your opinion in a polite way, unlike some other coments.
the romanticisation of rape and sexual abuse in this webtoon is so concerning lol